Why is BHVR never listening to us?

I agree but also disagree.

Therefore there are so called community managers who supposed to filter out topics and forward the feedback.

but also bhvr is interacting in topics such as i have made it - 100% achievements done. but on actual problems or clarification why they think its OK (eg boons range, multi level effect and healing speed). Not a single word

I assume (hope) they donsend such feedback into development department, but why is this ignored god knows.

SBMM is also never going to work as intended in dbd. It will just have ups and down on particular players mmr. Limbo of 0K and 4K. but that seems quite balance apperantly

And yes, removing bubbas mask wont have a great impact on preventing racism. But then again, calling all non-whites as PoC is racist aswell. But apperantly this is a cute name for hispqnic, africans, etc

Umm... I didn't say that it was.

There's multiple posts already explaining as well as videos on YouTube from DBD content creators that experienced the harassment explaining the removal and even multiple news articles explaining why the masks are being removed. At this point if you still don't understand I don't know what else I could say that would make a difference. Ultimately it doesn't matter - BHVR has made their stance on it clear and the masks are getting removed.

Again, the wiggle system change was due to the wear and tear it had on keyboards/controllers that caused them to break as well as for accessibility. Just because you personally did not have an issue with it does not mean there were plenty of others that did have an issue that complained and were heard by BHVR.

As I said in my first comment on this post, and I will repeat again - they addressed a fix for cheating in the patch notes. Here is the screenshot again.

You weren't suppose to say that 😂😂

You didn't read the dev updates or patch notes did you? They talked about trying to make changes to mmr for better matchmaking experiences and they talked about fixing possible loopholes cheaters are using.

SWF hasn't been fixed for 5 years and counting, and it's the main reason this game is impossible to balance. And it's just one example. So, the main idea of OP is still valid.

I only remember one thread asking for it, and it was a clear joke thread. Even if there are people in the community who take this mask as a serious problem, they are not just a "vocal minority", they would be a "vocal 0.1%". Why do you think the devs never bothered asking the players themselves, via some kind of in-game vote? Because they knew almost every player would oppose the mask censorship. This example just shows BHVR at its finest: listening to some twitter celebrities while completely ignoring 99.9% of the playerbase and making completely unnecessary, unasked for and generally unpopular changes, while the real problems which are being talked about literally every day remain unaddressed.

Ahhh, I see. I mean, part of why you've not seen any attempt to do this things in five years is that most of them are very stupid.

However, that first idea is a good one, though the "completely" stipulation does make it impossible. But hey, they're moving towards doing that now, at least- I know it's very tempting to say "yeah after five years" but the problem with that is that it becomes literally impossible for them to ever do the right thing after a certain point. If we want them to close the gap between SWF and SoloQ, them doing that is a good thing even if it took a long time.

So the things that the community feel are busted just should be ignored?

How many threads you seen about Clown being op?

How many have you seen about CoH?

And yet a Killer that is mained by 3 people gets his 1 addon that might make him viable to play nerfed.

To some of us, it feels like 90% of the issues that the players on the forums complain about get ignored, yet extremely small issues, i.e Clown and Twins nerfs get dealt with.

Why would people not feel they get ignored? There is no community consulting. We get patch notes, dropped on us, Boom this is what we are fixing, nevermind what the players think.

The community maybe unpleasant to deal with, but thats the joy of being in a service industry.

It might not be the fault of the person at the checkout that there isn't any toilet paper, but you can be sure he is the one going to cop the abuse.

Behaviour has done nothing to help themselves. With the we don't care about colourblind, to go play civilzation, i'd say the developers have just as much at fault as to why they cop it.

They do, on different occasions we saw that they do.

The issue is that sometimes they chose not to (looking at the grind thing here for example) and also because they are a bit to slow sometimes.

Now... Apparently bhvr is a good company who doesn't overwork their employees, and i was.... Almost proud to support a company like that, but.... I must admit, sometimes i feel like they could be faster with some changes.

At the moment I need from the developers:

• improve comfort when playing as Deathslinger;
• add counteraction to boon totems, cooldown;
• reduce grind, remove perk levels;
• mmr. Well, they said they work.

I hope I don't have to wait a year for these changes ...

Huh. Even when this community was smaller and far less toxic, especially at higher ranks where you ran into the same people often, 3-4 years ago, the devs never really listened. They did make the odd change to something massive that really was broken at times, like vacuum pallets, infinites, DS after countless years and whining (rightfully so) But those are things that also took far too long, with a ton of community backlash, that were also quite clear and made sense to change too. I would say that, the past year or two has been the least they really listened to this community in the history of the game.

I would respectfully disagree. They do listen probably more than ever. Just a couple weeks ago there were so many mask threads that you were hard pressed finding a forum post not talking about them. There's a lot of things they're changing that has been asked for. Do I still think their focus is in the wrong places sometimes? Yeah, sure. But at the same time, I'm not a game designer. I have no real experience for what goes into it. All I have is what I've studied and read up on. Maybe one day I'll get off my butt and make a game that blows DbD out of the water. But until such time, it's their gig and I kinda either have to play by their tune or go somewhere else ya know lol.

I think you are messing up cause and effect here in a massive way to make a populist point while also dismissing the positive changes to systems and where they led.

First of all the demand to do something about cheaters is valid, no question. However you can not say what you are doing about them in public because that would make the arms race against them harder. The fight against cheating is done in the shadows and not up front.

Bubbas masks where removed for a very different reason. There was debate about that, which I will not repeat. Was it a good thing or a bad thing to remove them, well that is up for further debate but there was demand to remove them from parts of the community.

The question to buff certain add-ons for Killers was answered. Hillbilly had his engravings buffed, got Pighouse Gloves and some other neat part. Michael Myers got his Memorial Flowers and Pig got a whole add-on pass with some very good new add-ons. Also please do not forget the Trapper rework.

Nemesis nerf is bad. I do not understand it and will not defend it. But it is no response to the community.

SBMM was a response to the community who hated the Rank system. BHVR did something out it and gave you SBMM only to have people hate that too. Maybe you should consider that people are never going to be happy with any system here give them Ranks and they cry about bad teammates and baby Killers; give them SBMM and they cry about only 4 survivor perks and only 2 tryhard Killers...well maybe you get matched against tryhards when you tryhard yourself...just a guess...

The wiggle system is an upgrade in my opinion. I hate button mashing and this makes it so much better. Also you are ignoring the quality of life changes to holding buttons...

Overall, please question the relation of cause and effect a bit more...otherwise you draw foolish conclusions.

People underestimate the amount of time certain changes take.

Take me for an example: I will demand that different Exhaustion perks have different values until I quit the game or die. Same for different areas of effect for Boon totems.

However if the code is done that everything with the tag "Exhaustion" has a set value of 60/50/40 then the devs would have to remove that tag from every perk, make a new variable for every perk level (not to say perk levels are good), give that variable a new value and hope everything around that still works and they did not suddenly make the survivor crash when they press E to outplay. And then they have to do that about 3-4 more times for every platform and hope for the best again...this will take time.

This issue will not stop my demand. However this change seems "small" to me, yet it takes quit some work to implement...

This is really bullshit with masks.Peoples are now offending by everything,soon we are not going to be able to hook black survivors because peoples going to be ofended 🤣 todays world problems...