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Anyone feel like the Q and A Thursday will be a waste of time?

They'll answer a bunch of questions with "We can't confirm that" or "We're looking into it."

Will probably talk about what they "might" do.

Will talk about how to improve the survivor experience while the killer experience is just rotting away.

Will continue to say SBMM is working as intended despite not showing any data.

Comments

  • ShinobuSK
    ShinobuSK Member Posts: 5,279

    Its always the same. But I will still watch it in hopes they will actually answer one or two questions

  • gilgamer
    gilgamer Member Posts: 2,209

    Depends on what you are watching it for, are you watching to get actual info out of it? Then yeah it'll be a waste most likely. If you want to watch to see how strange bhvrs design philosophy is then it's entertaining at least or horrifying depending on how much you care about the game, or both.

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    I mean, news is news. Even if that news is "soon ™️".

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,800

    Those were the highest upvoted questions though. i kept track of the forum and twitter questions. The only questions actually left out that were highly upvoted were those regarding cheaters/hackers. And even if they answered those I am sure the community (including myself) wouldn’t be satisfied with their answer anyways.

  • AnneBonny
    AnneBonny Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 2,252

    they really need to just discard questions with "soon" answers. it's either false hope or irritation until release.

  • UnknownKiller
    UnknownKiller Member Posts: 3,024
  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 5,714

    I watch them with the same mentality I have with Nintendo’s presentations. Expect nothing, and you might be pleasantly surprised. Has worked so far.

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,800

    Could you do a combined approach of most upvoted and ‚cherry picking‘ from the remaining questions though?

    like, have a threshold of upvotes so the x highest voted question do get answered but then also take the questions that didn’t get much votes but you yourselves (devs, community team etc) find interesting and worthy to get an answer and also feature some of those?

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,201

    That's similar to what we used to do - which we got heavily flamed for. That's the problem.

    We made it this way because this is the way the Community as a whole requested it - a lot of the responsibility has to fall to the people who upvoted the questions that they knew we'd not be able to answer or that were not related to gameplay etc.

  • TheOptimiser
    TheOptimiser Member Posts: 138

    Yes, but I will look at it anyways... My reaction after the Q&A will be mostly this one:


  • Avilgus
    Avilgus Member Posts: 1,261

    I'm going to skip this one, I'm really sick of those answers:

    • "Soon™" (probably 9 months to never)
    • "We can't talk about that"
    • "According to dAtA"
    • The facepalm depressing answers

    I better see the new For Honor reveal =)

  • Tiufal
    Tiufal Member Posts: 1,252

    If you dont want to watch it dont do it. But complaining about this on the general forums is totaly pathetic.

  • KateDunson
    KateDunson Member Posts: 714

    Pathetic is doing a qna where they don't answer anything but make fun of us with the usual meme soon tm.

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 5,714

    How's that "making fun of us"? It's self-deprecating. If you had to say "coming soon" at every stream you did, you would get sick of all the comments too.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,303

    Who doesn't? Having hope around this parts is a foolish mistake.

  • Dennis_van_eijk
    Dennis_van_eijk Member Posts: 1,704

    Don't get me wrong here as i don't try to be an a hole or anything like that, but you (with you i mean you at bhvr) are a company.

    This means that you will get flamed no matter what you'll do as there are always people where you will do everything wrong in their eyes.

    That's just part of your job to deal with whether you like it or not, you can't simply please all.

    It is good to choose the most upvoted questions as that has the people's interest regardless how stupid it might be, but it's also a good and wise idea to select a few questions that are really interesting.

    That way you get a good and interesting Q&A stream where you can actually give some info or feedback, and not like last time where it was a lot "can't answer that" "soon tm" "we have no info on that" and so on.

    Cause lets be honest, would you love to watch a Q&A stream where there was actually given some good answers and feedback to you as a viewer or where most questions aren't really answered other that the examples i just gave?

    Personally if you ask me i love to get feedbacks and real answers during the stream, that gives me more of a feeling that the devs care.

    In my eyes if they do the other part it feels imo very unprofessional and as if they take the easy way out i.e not having to really answer any questions.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 23,201

    I appreciate what you're saying I really do. The whole point of taking the most upvoted questions is that those are the questions that people want to have answered - that's the issue...we're limited on time, we've got roughly an hour for the stream, so we take the most upvoted questions and we will respond to those ones. Going through the rest of the questions to pull things out, that not everyone wants an answer to is not only time consuming but also we might not have time to answer these on the streams themselves.

    A lot more work goes into the QA's than people know, and that's ok - we don't expect people to know or understand or be bothered by it. But when teams are busy and we have to pull them off work for streams and questions, we want to make sure that we're answering the questions that the majority of the community want answered.

  • Dennis_van_eijk
    Dennis_van_eijk Member Posts: 1,704

    I really do understand how much time those things will take to setup, but you make a selection of the questions and then seek the answers from the people who knows them.

    This also means that you will see questions that have been asked multiple times before and were already answered multiple times in other Q&A streams, yet they still get enough upvotes to make it through.

    That is what bothers me (and i believe many others) the most as we already know the answers by now.

    Like last Q&A there were questions like that, and at the end of the stream i actually felt like a waste of time with barely any relevant info given.

    Imo that's why it's best to also make a selection besides the most upvoted ones.

    A good way to do so for example is to like now where people can ask and upvote, keep that open for week and then take the most upvotes and make a selection of some other interesting questions.

    Than a week after the questions and upvotes closes do the Q&A stream, this way you have enough time to prepare and have an actual good, fun and informative Q&A stream.

  • Ryan489x
    Ryan489x Member Posts: 1,498

    They seem to do that and it's not the devs we should be frustrated with on that point. it's the community for asking the same questions over and over again.


    Mandy I don't understand why you're letting trolls control your content? you guys are going to get flamed no matter what you do so why not not do what you want. As someone who watches the Q&A's hearing the same questions over and over is something I don't like upvotes or not.

    That's the nature of the internet and twitch, you're going to get trolled. I watch the chat whenever you guys stream and it's full of "Fix this" "Nerf that" "This when" As someone who asks questions an answer like "We'd like too" or "that's a really cool idea" are good enough answers for me.

  • MrPeanutbutter
    MrPeanutbutter Member Posts: 1,586

    I’m actually very pleasantly surprised by this Q&A. Addressing many of the main issues that are brought up on the forums! Thanks, BHVR!

  • Laluzi
    Laluzi Member Posts: 6,224
    edited January 2022

    So far, it kind of has been. There's a lot of 'we can't give information on that yet', 'we aren't thinking about that but we haven't ruled it out', and 'Soon (tm)' going on here. The only "no" I've heard was on bots replacing DCed players and I vehemently disagree with their reasoning on it (because yeah, a bot is worse than a human player, but it's still better than no teammate at all, and it doesn't punish killers either for losing out on hook perks or challenges.)

    "Can we have a roadmap?" "We usually do that at the anniversary." So... no?

    Year of the Tiger event looks neat, though.

  • Leonardo1ita
    Leonardo1ita Member Posts: 2,309

    I always prefer a soon ( or the level of how "soon" something is XD) a million times more than just random questions.

    Btw if many thing are on the plate of being done, I'd be excited people!