Latest stats for killer pick rates and kill rates and maps with highest and lowest kill rate

The game definitely expects too much from Solo Q, I'll surrender that, but against an SWF, many things can be much harder or downright irrelevant.

(I.e "The Killer has Rancor, don't pop the last gen yet")

His low kill rate is probably due to the fact that he's arguably the worst killer on controller.

Just thinking about playing him gives me shivers.

He's worse than half those Killers. Please note that it doesn't mean those Killers are good.

I'd say the following:

Myers ~ Solely off of his add-ons. Myers has way way way better add-ons and those boost his power a lot.

Trapper ~ Bit of a weird pick. His add-ons are good and getting forced into a 3-gen versus a Trapper gives him both map pressure and great chase.

Pig ~ Totally dependent on RNG but she has guaranteed game delay with her Traps.

Deathslinger ~ His chase is still really good. He has no map pressure, which has always been his issue. Before his nerf, he had probably the 2nd or 3rd best chase in the game. Now? He's lower, but still good.

Trickster ~ He's just really unfun to play against and he certainly needs buffs (or a rework) but he's pretty middle of the road.

I do think that Cenobite is fairly comparable to Clown. His chase is worse than Clown's, but his 4v1 is better. Prior to Pinhead's add-ons getting shredded, I would've had him in C-tier.

Not everything revolves around high MMR. Especially since nobody knows their MMR.

Console players have problems because of key bindings. Pallet drop, vault and removing chains is the same button.

Good thing we're nerfing Twins. Clearly their kill rate was too high. They're monsters. And clearly their just way too over picked. Look at that pick percentage! Inconceivable.

Actually, you can change them to where it's not the same button.

I hate to break this obvious news to you, but that's a two-way street -- and indicative of SBMM not functioning properly and prioritizing queue times over "fair" matches.

Over 5 hours or so of killer tonight, and I had some sweaty SWF's -- but it seemed like I had more than a few "potato" survivors I went against. Survivors who didn't know not to run along the outside wall type of new, and survivors who shouldn't be in a lobby with me and the hours I have in the game (I'm no Otz, but I'm at least capable). The 4K's I'm getting -- and presumably other people get -- in matches like that -- "Experienced killer trounces 4 survivors who have less than 100 hours in the game combined" -- are the counterbalance to the "New killer gets trounced by the sweaty SWF". There's likely as much of one type of match as the other, evening those "stats" out.

Without the devs further elaborating, as always, people will pull what they want to hear from those stats, which are as usual, given without any context. I will say that the only consistent thing I saw tonight wasn't the quality of my opponents -- it was, as usual, immediate queues as killer from 4:30-5 PM to just about 30 minutes ago -- and that would have remained constant for at least another few hours if I hadn't stopped for the night.

Same thing as before since this stats are pretty much useless, buff nurse I guess since she has the lowest kill rate, bring back 7 blink nurse without needing to charge her blinks.

I see so many issues in this chart... pig, ghosty and legion being over 50%. I'm just going to assume these taken from soloQ and with new players. If these would be taken with SWFs and high mmr those numbers would look whole lot more horrible.

Those are stats from ALL ACROSS THE BOARD, aka completely useless as indicator for more than general trends.

Yeah if you're saying killer is "so much easier" I can already tell you don't know what you're talking about and have never played the role against any remotely competent survivors. That said, I'll attempt to address you in a legitimate manner.

First off, learning to play killer at top level currently has a considerably larger time commitment because individual survivors are just skins and there are really only a few general strategies depending on the killer (pre-drop against ranged killers, W gamer against 115s, play the info game against Nurse/Spirit), whereas every single killer has a unique power that takes time to master. Sure there are general skills that need learned and can translate from one killer to another and some killers are easier than others, but it can still take anywhere from hundreds to thousands of hours to properly master any one killer power depending on its difficulty and intricacies. You are not gonna tell me you can just pick up Blight and do perfect 180 lunges and scoot surfs and not have me laugh in your face.

Secondly, killers have FAR more to manage because of the nature of asymmetrical games. Every time you chase one guy, you have to worry about what the other three are doing. You have to find ways to get as many people off gens as possible because there is no way you can win off 1v1 alone even as the best killers in the game; high level Nurses still have to slug and tunnel to secure kills in tournaments because of that reason. Your goal should be to have at least 2 people off gens virtually the entire game, whether that be off of hooking and gen pressure or off either slugging or tunneling to remove someone from the equation entirely.

Lastly, I'd argue this statistic hides how much the survivors can have in their favor because it's all ranks rather than people who've hit the soft-cap, and because survivors often die due to altruism late-game when they could just 3 man out the killer and end in a win. I can't count the amount of completely lost games I've pulled back purely because people thought they had a little too much leeway and/or got too cocky when they could've just let me get my one kill and left. Easily a quarter of my games are won because they spent more time clicking me than slamming the last 2 gens, and that's not even mentioning the amount of wins I still get because of getting players far below my skill level because MMR is struggling to do its job properly.

To be honest...I play Pinhead a lot. Like...a lot. He was a gift from a dear friend who knew about my obsession with Hellraiser.

Yes, he is weak in the chase and yes, he destroys SoloQ survivors. However mostly because they just refuse to go after the box. He also destroys new and low-rank survivors who refuse to go after the box even more because they do even more stupid things like "solving the box right next to Pinhead".

However for me he does not need a buff. Not that I would not take one.

Not breaking your own chains would be pretty sweet already. However I would not say that chains should take longer to break per se. Long range chains: Yes, perfect to reward my long range curved chain. Short range, no, I do not need this.

Mastering them AND making them a beast at high MMR!

You can but it shouldn't need to be done. Console players have plenty of buttons free that could've been used to remove the chains.

It's bad game design when your forced to change the default game controls immediately.

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I was referencing these two charts as the one that was given previously was very incomplete. Don't bother blight because he was new killer when this was shown. notice how plague and demogorgon are more popular and higher in kill charts and notice how freddy, spirit and deathslinger all have mostly halved pick-rate and much lower killrate from their negative changes. Wraith got some positive changes and he get played more.

at least one thing is true, buffs = increase killer pick rate, nerfs=decrease pick rate.

That is why I wished there was high MMR to compare to Old red rank chart

Kill-rate just feel very meaningless for all rank section, like what are we suppose learn from this chart? that new player nurses and trickster lose a lot and that new survivors struggle vs pinhead & freddy the most? pointless information.

This honestly shows us nothing - which is so disappointing to receive when considered.

It is just a collation of stats, with no regard for Low/Mid/High MMR, where different killers and playstyles are optimal. Not only this - but there is only ONE killer that shows a real issue which is Twins. Nurse, Huntress, Wraith and Doctor are filtered lower due to the high playrate that they receive - giving them generally more of a chance to fluctuate due to an inconsistency in player skill.

Then you have a decent killer like Cenobite, who has the SECOND lowest play-rate, but because he doesn't have glaring issues, his playerbase is mainly players that invest time into the killer - thus propping him up in his killrate. The only thing that I would say is that this shows he's not an entry-friendly killer, and that he is often than not played by people that are already confident in him. Hag and Freddy both follow this pattern too..

Then you have the kill-inflated killers like Bubba, Artist, Myers, and Trapper - who have high play-rates and kill-rates because of how 'easy' it is to secure killers?