The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
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So BT basekit... another solo buff
No one is even talking about this, when asked with a question about BT and DS being basekit he only said DS wasnt.
Personally I think this will be a bad change, itll encourage people to not bother going for safe saves as the person just gets out for free. Killers will get body blocked even more when they dont even wish to tunnel and last thing it frees up yet another perk slot
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Even if they make BT base, I think it will be different version of it, not the same BT perk we have now. At least I hope because that would just mean extra perkslot for another perk with no downside.
Either way this change is months away so lets hope it will be fair for all players
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They did not say they are going to make BT base-kit. People really love to create drama.
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You know what?
they also didn’t say they won’t make other perks basekit, they only really ruled out DS! Maybe old MoM will become basekit, Dead Hard? Unbreakable?
Maybe they even buff the basekit versions of perks, in BTs case giving the unhooked person endurance for the rest of the trial!
We should definitely cry out and complain about that as well!
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Ruin, Pop, Corrupt will become basekit because BHVR never said they are not going to make this perks basekit.
*facepalm*
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Its another way to shake up the meta.. just make old meta perks basekit so survivors can take more free lives. Meanwhile killers asking for corrupt basekit (start game collapse idea) nah internal testing has determined this wasn't fun and didn't have the intended effect.
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Ssshhh we only complain about hypothetical survivor buffs.
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No one said that.
Killer main drama as usual.
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"No one is even talking about this"
This is the third post I've read about it. 🙃
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So sad. the devs are entertaining the idea of BT being basekit after creating conditions in the game which encourage more camping by killers, particularly at high level mmr. For years I've seen posts from the devs saying camping/tunneling is a legit strategy. Suddenly it's a problem?
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I love the people who said they weren't even saying they would do this.
You know they physically avoided the question about BT multiple times, obviously they're doing something with it...
I love how I talk about this and get called a killer main lol, once again trying to label people and make it a us verse them mentality when i share concerns
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I hear ya, but it honestly pisses me off when the survivor coming to unhook is the one that has the killer chasing them and doesn't have BT so it feels like: well, I'm gonna die, so might as well take someone with me. It's ridiculous.
I had one yesterday that was being camped by the killer, so I went with my BT before struggle started. Went down and this effing idiot stays around me, bleeding, standing behind me and I honestly couldn't work it out.
Then I see it: called the killer by throwing a pallet, killers downs him, he uses DS and the stun to come unhook me without BT!
I'll let you work out what happened after.
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Actually, if you couldn't use it to bodyblock, then I wouldn't mind a basekit BT at all. Getting tunneled off the hock without any chance at all, like at least trying a vault or a loop, really feels aweful. But as always, you can't have nice things without someone trying to exploit it. The original idea behind BT is that you can savely get away from an unsave unhooking. But todays reality is that survivors are ultra bolt and brazen with their unsave unhooks, knowing that the unhooked survivor can bodyblock and cover for the other one, thereby minimisizing the risk to super low levels.
I really hope that they figure something out, buuut we will see.
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Well that's my issue, ignoring all the comments calling me a killer main my issue is also from a survivor point of view.
Adding a perk like this base just means people are more likely to trade and farm hooks which imo shouldn't be encouraged.
We stride further from rewarding and promoting skill every idea and patch, I want my survivors to understand how to play and play smart not just do stuff because they have base perks.
Its annoying to get farmed for sure, but this isnt a way to do it
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Well that's my issue, BT rewards bad survivors for farming people. I honestly dont want a bunch of survivors just trading on hook because they know they shall get a safe save etc.
Especially for free.
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The devs have said previously they want to discourage actual facecamping but haven’t found a solution they like. They don’t think tunneling someone right off a hook is unsportsmanlike or anything like that but they do probably want to incentivize spreading out the downs a bit so all the players stay in the game as long as possible.
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No mither base kit?
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The scourge hook perk seems to incentivize spreading the hooks over camping/tunnel. More perks like this on the killer side would help more than giving every survivor basekit BT. Honestly i know it wasn't popular with survivor mains but OG undying/Ruin combo incentivized killers to leave the hook too. I didn't mind that combo as a survivor b/c like all perk builds it's a trade-off. That took two perk slots which potentially weren't noed.
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Maybe some basekit gen slowdown, 1% per hook, could do the trick.
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Yeah, if they do make Borrowed Time basekit then I would think just slightly slowing the gens down would be enough to maintain the balance.
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I'm assuming whatever they're planning isn't literally just making the current effects of Borrowed Time basekit, probably more in line with a few seconds of no collision/endurance effect/whatever to dissuade hard tunnelling.
I'm all for it. There are two kinds of meta perks- perks that are just unambiguously stronger than all the others, and perks that cover a gap so common that you feel like you're punished for not bringing them. The former should be nerfed, and something should be changed about the game to stop the latter from feeling so necessary- which would look like some form of basekit BT, in this instance.
Obviously the specifics are up in the air right now and there are bad versions of this that could manifest, but something to stop a survivor from being smacked down seconds after being unhooked would be a good thing.
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I'm assuming whatever they're planning isn't literally just making the current effects of Borrowed Time basekit, probably more in line with a few seconds of no collision/endurance effect/whatever to dissuade hard tunnelling.
I'm all for it. There are two kinds of meta perks- perks that are just unambiguously stronger than all the others, and perks that cover a gap so common that you feel like you're punished for not bringing them. The former should be nerfed, and something should be changed about the game to stop the latter from feeling so necessary- which would look like some form of basekit BT, in this instance.
Obviously the specifics are up in the air right now and there are bad versions of this that could manifest, but something to stop a survivor from being smacked down seconds after being unhooked would be a good thing.
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Don't be a contrarian, he very obviously hinted that they are looking into making some version of BT base kit. Doesn't mean it will happen, and it doesn't mean that if it does it will work the exact same as the perk does currently but if you think people are just reading into too much for "drama" you are straight-up being disingenuous.
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Which would be fine if they said hooks mattered. Sadly they only think hills matter yet want you to go for many hook?
I'm all for never tunneling and slugging, but you cant do that and still get lots of hooks in an accurate MMR games.
I do get that but i see alot of issues with it, for both roles not just one.
Dont be silly! Raising concerns makes you a killer main I thought you knew this
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Eh. that part of the community would even complain about this.
No slugging anymore possible and survivors getting almost free IW?? Devs are so biased.
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devs are so biased they removed value from:
Plague
Legion
Ghostface
Myers
Coulrophibia
Nurses calling
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Tbf I'm still abit annoyed GF got nerfed, even if it's only one second with the best addons.
I feel the devs always miss the point, the other addons needed to be better not just make the better ones somewhat base but keep everything the same
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He said that DS was not going to be basekit and then when the question about BT he repeated That DS was NOT going to be basekit. That there was a subtle way of saying it's going to become basekit.... probably in their own sick minds to counter camping and tunneling......
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I did not see that. And i doubt to this will happen. BT is already strong and fair perk. It gives chance to survivors against camper & tunneller killers. It does not need to be base-kit. I can not see any reason for this.
And again, nobody said they are planning to make BT base-kit. I can not complain about things that didn't happen.
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If they remove collision from the unhooked survivor that's fine because it will stop the abusive body blocking and not give them a free extra Perk
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Careful you'll be called a killer main
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Sadly I was before Boons and the current state of the game now it's a split..... survivor and any other game I want to play when I'm sick of the long Que times lol.
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Oh I went from killer main in the first year of release to survivor main, to 50/50 then to survivor mostly and now I haven't played in 2months lol.
Honestly DH puts me off killer so I'm looking forward to that change. Survivor gets abit bland for me, I'd love to do 50/50 again but I expressed in another post I dont think I have the energy for it.
Playing halo instead now
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Again. He did not say "We are going to make BT base-kit." Maybe he did not hear BT part, idk. But i doubt they will make it base-kit.
If they reveal officially, then yeah we can talk. But for now, this is pointless. And why they should make BT base-kit lol? It is already strong and meta perk.
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First off, they didn’t confirm they would make BT basekit. They only ruled out basekit DS and left it at that.
That said, if BT actually became basekit, it would be very easy to tweak. It could have a reduced duration and you could then remove collision from survivors under its effect to prevent bodyblocking with it. This doesn’t work right now because it would betray a survivor who was unhooked without it (eg. check if a recently unhooked survivor has collision; if they do, just swing and down them) but that isn’t a problem if everyone has it by default. There are plenty of ways to make this work as a basekit feature, it would just need to be accompanied with other survivor nerfs/killer buffs to balance it out.
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I don’t know why bloodlust is basekit and bt doesn’t
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They never said “hooks don’t matter”. What they said was hooks aren’t the only way to win. Which is true, you can slug everybody for example and win that way. And Borrowed Time has no effect on a four person slug win.
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But this isnt Win based match making this is Skill based match making.
Hooks often show more skill than kills just simply due to the fact multiple hooks mean you outplayed them multiple times over while a kill doesnt have to show that.
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I mean, usually, when you want to tease something, you don't say it loud. It was pretty obvious they wanted to communicate around it without saying it. If not, I don't see the point of doing the scenario of repeating the question so the answer was repeated too, to make sure people heard correctly. By heard correctly, I mean speaking about DS only.
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Yeah he totally missed the whole "and what about BT?" Question after the initial question 😂
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Does slugging 4 people simultaneously and winning with 5 hooks mean you didn’t play well?
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True, I get that.
One way or the other, fair play is not rewarded.
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I thought kindred was gonna become basekit. This is gonna lead into save being quicker and a whole lotta of problems.
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Kindred is going to be made redundant when the survivor icons show up.
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Yeah you're right but still kindred should be base.
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I've been for kindred being base for some time. I don't run a survivor without it.
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At least NOED wouldn't be a problem anymore, lol
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As much as that would be nice but due to how they are most of the time it will most likely something that can be abusable by survivors and then spout some bs about how it balanced in very specific circumstances.
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It's probably the solution they've been working on to help against camping except it really is useless against Bubba who is the king of facecamping.
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I will not complain before this happen. I am sorry but again, this is pointless. But if they do this, killer exp will go to worse. I already stopped play DbD because of this. I am not enjoying anymore.
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Means the survivors played bad tbh.
I feel it should be though. I'll always be more impressed by a killer who can get lots of hooks especially if they 12 hook. That's impressive 4ks not so much
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