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In soloQ teammates are your main enemies
Just had a game in soloQ. Started doing a gen with one Cheryl in the shack. Spine Chill goes off, so I go into a locker, while the clueless Cheryl remains on gen. It was Ghostface, he starts stalking her, and she doesn't see him. She gets exposed, runs towards my locker and tries to open it to show to killer I'm there, and then gets downed. Of course the killer doesn't ignore it and accepts the help from the opposite team, like a good sportsmanship-like champ, grabbing me. I guess you can't blame be for DCing here.
The worst part is that such ######### is not addressed by the devs in any way. The problem does not exist in their worldview. Those icons (that probably will eventually get cancelled because it's BHVR) won't do crap against soloQ teammates who only play to ruin other teammates fun. The report system is a post-ironical joke, which stopped being funny 4 years ago: no one is going to record dozens of GiB's of footage and pass the e-bureaucratic hell just for occasional reports which will be ignored anyway. The devs don't see any problem and are not even going to start "working on it™", because two ruling classes of DbD society (killers and SWFs) are not troubled by this. No one ever cares about the third estate of soloQ.
So what can you do when your teammates are enemies more fearsome than the killer, other than leaving the game of course? Is it just the curse of soloQ that will never be lifted?
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Easy solution is go to the looking for group sections of Reddit, this Forum, and your consoles platform, and developing a relationship with people so you have people to play with that are as equally invested in winning as you.
It's a team game for survivors, I don't know what else to tell you.
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That doesn't mean Solo Q needs to be hell.
What a terrible argument.
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How would you suggest fixing potatoes?
There are people who DO NOT WANT TO WIN. You cannot incentivize them, their reasons for playing are starkly different from yours and mine.
Also, dude, it's not an argument. It's the best suggestion I can think of for anyone who needs help with SoloQ. Feel free to put up better that you can do within your own power.
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You make more punishments for people who intentionally throw games. Seems rather obvious to me.
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If only we had some kind of automatic ranking system that separated those who want to win from those who want to ruin the games, you know, like a system that would measure your skill and match you accordingly with other players of similar skill level, right? If only we had one...
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Of course, I've been advocating for that in plenty of threads, threads I've seen you comment on. Go post that suggestion up to BHVR and see where it gets you.
There is real action the OP can take right now to vastly improve their experience. It makes no sense to die on the hill that is SoloQ. SWF is the apex predator of this game and he can easily join it if he is genuinely frustrated.
Edit: And to remind you: This is his last sentence, "So what can you do when your teammates are enemies more fearsome than the killer, other than leaving the game of course? Is it just the curse of soloQ that will never be lifted?"
I answered it with only his bests interest at heart.
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But in Cheryl's opinion, you are a bad player who hid in a locker and did nothing.
And no, there is no excuse for your DCing because there are 2 other players.
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We do, and SWF's have no problem climbing it. You can climb it in SoloQ too, but it is certainly more challenging.
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There have always been players like that, and always will be. It is, however, not the norm, even if you are playing with potato survivors. And I really do blame you for DC'ing. Just because one player exposed you once, you DC'd and ruined the game for the other 2 survivors. Just keep playing and don't help the person that wronged you. Don't screw over the remaining players.
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Cheryl may have been too focused on the gen and simply not realized GF is there.
And she probably didnt know you are in that locker? DC in that scenario is all on you and in eyes of your teammates you were the problem.
Giving killer early down easy is one thing team can recover from but making it 1v3 is the worst you could do for them
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Easy, just add me and we will increase mmr so that we dont play with garbage teammates in the future
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facts
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Honestly, this might've been miscommunication.
The Cheryl might've thought that you were doing nothing, and decided to expose you on that basis. I had a game with a Claudette that was absolutely contributing nothing to the match - and hadn't been chased at all thus far - 1 person dead, me and the other survivor were both on our last hook. We only completed ONE generator at this point. I was doing a generator with her, and then she randomly ran off... to hide behind a tree, keep in mind that the killer wasn't nearby. I was working on the generator for a while, until the killer came. I had done about 60% of the progress myself, whereas the Claud was still hiding behind the same tree. After getting hit, i decided, 'hell nah' and ran over to expose the Claudette that seemingly had been doing this the entire match which is why she wasn't hooked at all but also never completed a generator.
I'm just saying that in a game where you're not allowed to directly communicate with your teammates even though you ARE reliant on your teammates... its a bit of a tough situation
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Why do people think you are reliant on your team in this game? The hatch is a mechanic for a reason. Roach it out, left behind key is the best way to play solo Q imo. Or at least the way you can survive on the most. There's just waaay too many unwinnable games in solo Q.
Literally just tonight I have gone from full meta legacy sweat squads as my teammates, to default blendettes who might have bought the game today. And the Qs are so long I don't even want to dodge the baby lobbies but well of course killer ends up being an ultra sweat TTV who I had to spend like 6 minutes hiding from to get the hatch. We had an AFK, a blendette who twice went down to iron maiden (including in the first 25 seconds of the match starting), and a david who got 2 tapped every chase.
And the killer at the end was like "why didn't you save your team you filthy rat!" "That was so boring!" When he literally slugged for like 6 minutes trying to find me. And it's like wellll yeah I am never winning with that team no matter what I do so I am playing to escape.
So obviously I swing by his steam to give him the big old GG EZ and talk some smack to him in front of his 3 viewers lmao.
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We spawned in that shack, it was the very beginning of the game.
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I remember playing one game as Adam where my whole team was conspiring with the enemy Spirit to get me killed. It was pretty tense because I had to hide from 4 people at once; I still managed to escape, though.
To be precise, that Spirit wanted to farm and the other 3 survivors were happy to oblige just to be betrayed by her at the endgame. I saw it coming a mile away which is why I tried to evade these people at all costs.
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The soloQ moment
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Everyone does not like to play with Discord. What about us?
So is this case of play SWF or don't have fun?
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Why did u stay in the locker? You could have just jumped out of it and run after the Cheryl tried to expose you and got downed by the killer.
I agree with a few other posts in here that the Cheryl probably thought you were going to "Blendette" your way through the match without contributing much. There is WAY too many people playing like that atm and it's one of the things that make soloq hell.
You saw your Spine Chill light up. Point into a direction to signal your team mate the kiler is near before hiding - aka be useful for your team as well. Also when u saw GF marking her, you could have jump out of the locker and taken a hit for her so she doesn't go down.
All those selfish players in soloq make me happy I play in a 4man most of the time...
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Players have zero game sense/situational awareness. It's so damn frustrating. Trying to make a contested save while injured is literally never the play, and yet pretty much every survivor will run TOWARDS the hook if they get found and hit while moving in for the save. Throws the game every freaking time. I don't understand why players do this. You have two healthy teammates. Run away from the hook. Like....think about this for two seconds.
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All it comes down to is do you want to pick your team in the end or not?
When it comes to being on a good team, picking is half the battle and there's nothing else to parse here.
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Try reading the thread plz
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So I had to continue the already ruined game I had nothing to gain from? A game of 2vs3? Interesting. Are you a killer main by any chance?
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Granted, I play maybe 2 games of survivor a day before I go back to killer max, but from my experience teammates run the gamut.
I've had Megs who attempt to unhook me in front of the killer, while injured and cost us the game.
I've had Megs who bodyblock like champions and run the killer for 2 gens.
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You're still missing the point - the lack of communication might've caused her to jump to a conclusion.
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What conclusion? That I did nothing for the whole 10 seconds of the game? I even started doing the gen with her. I don't get what you are trying to say here. It's pretty obvious she got salty about being so oblivious while I dodged the killer, so she tried to ruin the game for me. I don't see any other possible conclusion here.
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Can i ask you, why do YOU think the game is unwinnable in so many ways in Solo Q?
Because the game is designed in a way that demands team-work. The fact that you feel as though you can't win is because you're not capable of communicating with the people that are supposed to be your team. You are voiding parts of the game which are crucial to help the team escape and prioritizing yourself in that regard.
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That you might've been avoiding to do anything productive in the game.
I mean - why hide in a locker if you know the killer is coming? Why not try to escape a alternative way so that you could continue with repairs elsewhere? I would be pretty salty myself if my teammate instead of just running away (which is usually a better indication that a killer is on their way ), just went to hide in a locker.
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Because the MMR is a crapshoot in solo Q. As I said, I can go from having full meta looping gods one game to literally babies the next. And even if the game gives you baby teammates, that doesn't mean you get a baby killer too.
Those games are literally unwinnable, because you will have someone with like sub 100 hours on your team to go into a killer with thousands of hours who downs them by looking in their general direction. Then you eat the full suite of regression perks after. So your gen gets pain-resonanced and popped for like 40% regression off your baby claudette teammate going down to iron maiden.
I guess the only way to win those games is take the killer on a 5 gen run, but they....can just not chase you. And go farm your teammates instead.
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I mean, screw that Cheryl, she was obviously trying to pawn the killer off on you - but you're just as bad for ditching your other two teammates? Just because two of you got caught really early and one of your teammates is a tool doesn't mean the game is now unwinnable. But it's certainly unwinnable now that you bailed.
My survivor games are almost exclusively solo and I can safely say that despise both of these things equally.
Also, the killer isn't obligated to be nice and let you go. It's nice when they are, but it's not some cardinal sin if they take advantage of it instead. Hell - sometimes when playing killer, some douche survivor will start trying to point out a player that I already knew about. I didn't need the help or formally accept it - do I just have to let that player go now? (I... usually do, but that's because my distaste for sellouts is stronger than my desire to win.) It's quite possible the Ghostface heard your locker open. Or he didn't and Cheryl sold you out because she's the kind of player that flips their ######### if someone isn't doing something for 10 seconds, but he wasn't breaking some honor code by grabbing you. And I've still won games when one of my teammates was a jerk that would try and sandbag me over perceived slights, because unlike a DC, those teammates are usually still doing useful things when they're off on their own.
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The main enemy of soloqs is their poor perk choice. They all run bt, ds, dh and random 4 like deliverance, coh or unbreakable. Newsflash Soloqs this typical swf build does not work for you . Run kindred, aftercare, bloodpact or what ever you have to get information. Or give Information with stuff blastmine for example.
I still think Swfs is legal cheating , because thx to voice chat no one needs to pick aftercare for example.
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Yeah, getting deliberately sold out by a teammate at the very start of the game is definitely something you can call "things aren't going my way". I was probably right about you being a killer main, if anything you sound like one.
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Why would you not leave the locker after the Cheryl revealed you?
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Because the killer was right in front of the locker, and opened it the next second after downing her??????
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Oh god that made me laugh so hard.
I love how she kinda looked at him for a sec, then immediately was like Oops gotta go. 🤣
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Sabotaging games is literally encouraged by the developers.
Take for example 2v1 scenarios: actually having balls is the least skilled play because your partner wont hav any and will be looking to sell you down the river. At that point, you are expected to offer your team mate as a sacrifice for your own personal gain.
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Isn't a killer's attack cooldown 3 seconds?
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