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Why does legion have 110% movement speed and not 115?
If they're power is meant to just injure they shouldn't be so slow
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Welcome to the late club5
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Because their power improve their movement to a level that's on par with Nurse's.
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Why doesnt billy have 110 speed and not 115?
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Because the first hit is essentially free so being able to chase like most other Killers is probably a bit much.
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Because running is hard, man.
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Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.+1
Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too8 -
Why the hell does everyone think Billy needs nerfs?5
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Why the hell does everyone think Billy needs nerfs?Because someone has to take Freddy's place and Bubba is too smart too.
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Will Fredbear at least leave his sweater with Billy? Poor Billy has been wearing the same tattered shirt since he was a little boy ;(powerbats said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Why the hell does everyone think Billy needs nerfs?Because someone has to take Freddy's place and Bubba is too smart too.
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Why the hell does everyone think Billy needs nerfs?poor players who can't handle even a tiny challenge
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He simply doesn't need 115 to be viable.
He is good enough at 110, if you use frenzy and hit once and run up to the survivor then cancel frenzy you will get to the survivor faster than a 115 killer would.
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Try Cold Dirt or Joey's Mixtape. It will reduce your stun when getting out of Frenzy, pretty strong add-ons, even better than Frank's Mixtape tbh.0
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@Axelson said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.+1
Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion tooExcept Billy's power takes a lot more skill to land than you think, and it isn't as crazy as going through walls and such like Nurse's power.
The only time Billy's chainsaw takes 0 skill is when the Survivor has miserably failed and allowed Billy to ride up on his booty. That isn't because Billy is OP, it's because you messed up. In a game that allows Survivors to make a million mistakes, all Killers should have a way to quickly take out Survivors, like with Trapper's traps, Clown's Gas, Nurse's Blink, Legion's Frenzy etc.
Plus Billy's power is completely useless in the loop if you actually use your brain.
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Wow, what an original suggestion...0
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@Schorts94 said:
If they're power is meant to just injure they shouldn't be so slowNot all killers are supposed to be viable (sadly)
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Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.+1
Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Post edited by Mandy on1 -
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Axelson said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Can you please don't insult me? I don't remember when i insulted someone because her opinion. It's my opinion, if you don't like it then don't say nothing, thanks. Not all the people can have the same opinion as you or as me, you have to respect other people opinions too.
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I don't respect opinions who have no reasonable ground without any experience but cry for "huge nerfs"Axelson said:- > @DwightsLifeMatters said:
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Can you please don't insult me? I don't remember when i insulted someone because her opinion. It's my opinion, if you don't like it then don't say nothing, thanks. Not all the people can have the same opinion as you or as me, you have to respect other people opinions too.
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Cause he'd essentially be a 115% movement killer with an constant instadown. That would be too much.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.I'm curious. Aren't these videos from Marth's depip squad made before the many buffs to killers? Especially the last mid-chapter patch.
I agree that right now at least Hillbilly doesn't need nerfing, especially not 110% movement speed. Nurse is overpowered though in my opinion.0 -
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
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Nice B8 M8 .... You are on a roll with these.
Its because they want you to rely more on frenzy for chases.
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@Onionthing said:
Nice B8 M8 .... You are on a roll with these.Its because they want you to rely more on frenzy for chases.
I think he needs a ban. He's only posted on two other threads, he's 100% trolling.
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@Poweas said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
The only things that have to go are additional blink addons.. nothing more
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Not gonna happen, keep dreaming. They nerfed her already back then. If they nerf her or billy, not only nurse and billy is gone but the veteran players like me aswell. And the devs know that.Poweas said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
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@Snapshot said:
@Poweas said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
The only things that have to go are additional blink addons.. nothing more
Er, no.
She will need a rework soon. I don't want her to have one because I'm quite fond of her but she certainly will have to at some point. Her level of power is ridiculous.
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She has a high skill cap, only 2% of the community is playing her. She is the ONLY killer who can compete with optimal e sport survivors, and even with her your win isn't guaranteed. She doesn't need any nerf. Only the additional blink addons are disgusting and should be removed or reworked to something completely different. Period.Poweas said:@Snapshot said:
@Poweas said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
The only things that have to go are additional blink addons.. nothing more
Er, no.
She will need a rework soon. I don't want her to have one because I'm quite fond of her but she certainly will have to at some point. Her level of power is ridiculous.
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@Poweas said:
@Snapshot said:
@Poweas said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
The only things that have to go are additional blink addons.. nothing more
Er, no.
She will need a rework soon. I don't want her to have one because I'm quite fond of her but she certainly will have to at some point. Her level of power is ridiculous.
Especially if they plan on nerfing gen rush, which so many killer mains want. I wouldn't mind a second objective, but Nurse would need some heavy nerfing if that ever happens. Other top tier killers would need some nerfs as well though if a second objective were ever to happen.
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Let us first get solo and swf to an equal level (-> as close as possible) before even thinking about a second objective, let alone a nurse nerf.ad19970 said:@Poweas said:
@Snapshot said:
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
The only things that have to go are additional blink addons.. nothing more
Er, no.
She will need a rework soon. I don't want her to have one because I'm quite fond of her but she certainly will have to at some point. Her level of power is ridiculous.
Especially if they plan on nerfing gen rush, which so many killer mains want. I wouldn't mind a second objective, but Nurse would need some heavy nerfing if that ever happens. Other top tier killers would need some nerfs as well though if a second objective were ever to happen.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Poweas said:@Snapshot said:
@Poweas said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.
Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
The only things that have to go are additional blink addons.. nothing more
Er, no.
She will need a rework soon. I don't want her to have one because I'm quite fond of her but she certainly will have to at some point. Her level of power is ridiculous.
She has a high skill cap, only 2% of the community is playing her. She is the ONLY killer who can compete with optimal e sport survivors, and even with her your win isn't guaranteed. She doesn't need any nerf. Only the additional blink addons are disgusting and should be removed or reworked to something completely different. Period.
You're joking about the skill cap right? There's a lot of people who can play Nurse, most just choose not to. I don't myself because I find her boring. Last time I played her was when I wanted to get to rank 1, about a week ago. Doesn't mean that if I go into a game after a few months of not playing her, I'm going to play like a rank 20 Trapper.
Spirit has a HIGH skill cap. Nurse has a moderate one. There's quite a big difference.
And you're missing my point, soon (1-2 years) if things go to plan, pretty much every killer will be great, SWF and Solo gap would be closed, every killer would be able to keep up and kill at least 2 out of 4 of the survivors which is what it should be in many peoples opinion, 2 dead, 2 alive.
She doesn't need a nerf RIGHT NOW but give it a 1-2 years and she'll definitely need a nerf. Or maybe a rework.
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I juke every nurse to death who is "just" decent. You have to be very good (or use addons for additional blinks lol)Poweas said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Poweas said:@Snapshot said:
@Poweas said:
@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.
Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
The only things that have to go are additional blink addons.. nothing more
Er, no.
She will need a rework soon. I don't want her to have one because I'm quite fond of her but she certainly will have to at some point. Her level of power is ridiculous.
She has a high skill cap, only 2% of the community is playing her. She is the ONLY killer who can compete with optimal e sport survivors, and even with her your win isn't guaranteed. She doesn't need any nerf. Only the additional blink addons are disgusting and should be removed or reworked to something completely different. Period.
You're joking about the skill cap right? There's a lot of people who can play Nurse, most just choose not to. I don't myself because I find her boring. Last time I played her was when I wanted to get to rank 1, about a week ago. Doesn't mean that if I go into a game after a few months of not playing her, I'm going to play like a rank 20 Trapper.
Spirit has a HIGH skill cap. Nurse has a moderate one. There's quite a big difference.
And you're missing my point, soon (1-2 years) if things go to plan, pretty much every killer will be great, SWF and Solo gap would be closed, every killer would be able to keep up and kill at least 2 out of 4 of the survivors which is what it should be in many peoples opinion, 2 dead, 2 alive.
She doesn't need a nerf RIGHT NOW but give it a 1-2 years and she'll definitely need a nerf. Or maybe a rework.
Spirit high skill cap? I mean, spirit is the only killer you can get you hits by literally standing still doing nothing, that's not skillful Imo.
Currently spirit is just hard to play cuz of the f*cked up audio that's it. After that it's going to be ez pz again to track and down survivors while phase walking0 -
Why am I not surprised, people have a hard time facing Billy somehow.
At least Billy has a counter...
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Looks like it's that time again.
The Nurse is not OP. She's never been OP. She does what she was designed to do according to the devs' own stated design intent for her, namely forcing survivors to actually try not to be found and lose the killer when they eventually get found instead of using exploits (infinites, then pallet loops). She doesn't need to be nerfed. If anything, she should be reverted to how she was originally, with 115% movement speed and 3 blinks as her baseline stats, mainly because her ridiculously slow movement speed (when she is not blinking) doesn't make her "more balanced" (no good Nurse travels the map without blinking, just like no good Hillbilly travels through Rotten fields without his chainsaw sprint). All it does is make things even more miserable for new Nurses and open a plethora of opportunities for survivors' shenanigans and bullying.Post edited by Acromio on0 -
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She will never be gone she is staying where she is atPoweas said:@DwightsLifeMatters said:
Axelson said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
Once Hillbilly is nerfed to 110% Legion and Spirit being 110% will be acceptable imo.
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Hillbilly has a 230% chainsaw speed with an insta down that 99% of the times goes through windows and stills 115%. He deserves a huge nerf. 110% base movement speed or a huge decrease to his chainsaw movement speed. Spirit deserves a lot more 115% than Hillbilly, Legion too
Are you absolutely stupid? Hillbilly is probably the most balanced Killer, if not nurse. Who else should combat swf groups and win if not billy (and nurse)? Billy is for me the blueprint of what Kilker should have: normal speed and high map pressure.
And even with that, really optimal esports swf teams can give him a hard time. Watch Marth's depip squad and look how they stomp a known hillbilly player who is known as beeing very good.Nurse is NOT balanced, she's overpowered. She hasn't got her nerfs yet because SWF hasn't been nerfed yet. Once all killers are at a good level, and SWF gets nerfed, she is GONE.
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