Homophobic slurs aren’t bannable?!!
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Sorry I'm late!!!
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I undertsand what your saying. But there not using it in that context. They are using gay as stupid. I knows gays call each other gay because they are being to fem sometimes but not to say your stupid.lasombra1979 said:@sadmuffins13 said:
ChesterTheMolester said:
sadmuffins13 said:
ChesterTheMolester said:
sadmuffins13 said:
Gorgonia said:W> @ChesterTheMolester said:
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ChesterTheMolester said: Gorgonia said: Orion said: @Gorgonia said: I never said they shouldn’t? I’m talking about when they use gay as in “man, that’s gay” (? That doesn’t make people ######### unless they go overboard about it knowing it can alter someone else’s peace of mind. I never said you never said they shouldn't. I said that you should speak for yourself instead of projecting, in your words, your "over sensitive" nature to the entire LGBT community. I think I mentioned I never felt oppressed due to my sexuality? I’m not over sensitive myself but many of my friends are and sometimes they react badly towards unintended offenses or jokes coming from people that ignore what being gay is and how gay people feel when their sexuality/orientation is used as a joke. Not justifying them, just saying that before we get mad we need to try and educate those people. Sorry but you contradict yourself there, you say its unintended that means there is no offense given, yet claim you don't justify that as if there was a crime. Given that its unintended, they may need to learn to differentiate between the two, because emotions don't justify actions, no matter if you are gay or misinterpreted a joke. They are after all responsible for their own behavior. I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.
Correct me if I read your response incorrectly
Im not talking legal term, and i haven't said there was no offense, there was no offense GIVEN. Huge distinction. If someone takes offense and reacts "badly", and the result is something unethical, then its all on the one who has taken the offense , in this case the gay. Saying that just because someone is LGBT he is not in control over his emotion is not only ridiculous but attacks their agency in return.
Okay, I think I know where the confusion is.
Someone feels offended by a joke and gets mad. Offender doesn’t know he is provoking this.
I said I don’t justify the offender because of his negligence, I also said that instead of getting mad at them I would rather educate them.
Unfortunately some people dont want to be educated. They are close minded an ignorant. Until they go through a similiar situation it means nothing to them. People would rather provoke and get a rise out of somebody then actually talk. An i personally don't have time to waste on it. An what do you mean joke??? Because i dont see how its funny. Its more like someone is taking a word and turning it into a negative. A word people use to idetify themselves with. So now am i a stupid gay...? Hahaha no.... How about we educate these people by throwing them a dictionary?
Another appeal to emotion here.
And what i've said applies to you too, just because you don't think its funny does not mean they are close minded and ignorant, though im pretty sure you will assume it, which would speak more about your misanthropic mindset than it does about them.And btw being ignorant is different from being an edge lord.
Seriously trying to justify something that is wrong? If something bothers me i will speak up. Its not being sensitive its called speaking my mind. Ive delt with people like you. An im done entertaining you.
Congratulations, you failed to read.
There is no thing as universal wrong when it comes to jokes, its highly context related, especially regarding who the audience of the joke is. And if you saw the thread in entirety then you'd know that i said that actual homophobic attacks should be banned so get out of here if you don't even know what the conversation you mixed yourself in is about.I know what this thread is about. Read the comments. Saw something someone said and commented. Saying thats gay isnt a joke... Maybe you should be the one leaving. Your always getting into arguemnts with people on here. Your toxic bro.
Guess what, to many people, including a good amount in the LGBT+ community, "that's gay" is a joke. They take it as a joke. They do not get offended by the joke.
@ChesterTheMolester is one of the less toxic members of this forum. The fact you call him toxic because he does not agree with your point of view is bad form. Your....I mean you're way off base attacking him.
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@sadmuffins13 said:
lasombra1979 said:@sadmuffins13 said:
ChesterTheMolester said:
sadmuffins13 said: ChesterTheMolester said: sadmuffins13 said: Gorgonia said: W> @ChesterTheMolester said: Gorgonia said:u
ChesterTheMolester said: Gorgonia said: Orion said: @Gorgonia said: I never said they shouldn’t? I’m talking about when they use gay as in “man, that’s gay” (? That doesn’t make people ######### unless they go overboard about it knowing it can alter someone else’s peace of mind. I never said you never said they shouldn't. I said that you should speak for yourself instead of projecting, in your words, your "over sensitive" nature to the entire LGBT community. I think I mentioned I never felt oppressed due to my sexuality? I’m not over sensitive myself but many of my friends are and sometimes they react badly towards unintended offenses or jokes coming from people that ignore what being gay is and how gay people feel when their sexuality/orientation is used as a joke. Not justifying them, just saying that before we get mad we need to try and educate those people. Sorry but you contradict yourself there, you say its unintended that means there is no offense given, yet claim you don't justify that as if there was a crime. Given that its unintended, they may need to learn to differentiate between the two, because emotions don't justify actions, no matter if you are gay or misinterpreted a joke. They are after all responsible for their own behavior. I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.
Correct me if I read your response incorrectly Im not talking legal term, and i haven't said there was no offense, there was no offense GIVEN. Huge distinction. If someone takes offense and reacts "badly", and the result is something unethical, then its all on the one who has taken the offense , in this case the gay. Saying that just because someone is LGBT he is not in control over his emotion is not only ridiculous but attacks their agency in return. Okay, I think I know where the confusion is. Someone feels offended by a joke and gets mad. Offender doesn’t know he is provoking this. I said I don’t justify the offender because of his negligence, I also said that instead of getting mad at them I would rather educate them. Unfortunately some people dont want to be educated. They are close minded an ignorant. Until they go through a similiar situation it means nothing to them. People would rather provoke and get a rise out of somebody then actually talk. An i personally don't have time to waste on it. An what do you mean joke??? Because i dont see how its funny. Its more like someone is taking a word and turning it into a negative. A word people use to idetify themselves with. So now am i a stupid gay...? Hahaha no.... How about we educate these people by throwing them a dictionary? Another appeal to emotion here.
And what i've said applies to you too, just because you don't think its funny does not mean they are close minded and ignorant, though im pretty sure you will assume it, which would speak more about your misanthropic mindset than it does about them.
And btw being ignorant is different from being an edge lord. Seriously trying to justify something that is wrong? If something bothers me i will speak up. Its not being sensitive its called speaking my mind. Ive delt with people like you. An im done entertaining you. Congratulations, you failed to read.
There is no thing as universal wrong when it comes to jokes, its highly context related, especially regarding who the audience of the joke is. And if you saw the thread in entirety then you'd know that i said that actual homophobic attacks should be banned so get out of here if you don't even know what the conversation you mixed yourself in is about.
I know what this thread is about. Read the comments. Saw something someone said and commented. Saying thats gay isnt a joke... Maybe you should be the one leaving. Your always getting into arguemnts with people on here. Your toxic bro.
Guess what, to many people, including a good amount in the LGBT+ community, "that's gay" is a joke. They take it as a joke. They do not get offended by the joke.
@ChesterTheMolester is one of the less toxic members of this forum. The fact you call him toxic because he does not agree with your point of view is bad form. Your....I mean you're way off base attacking him.
I undertsand what your saying. But there not using it in that context. They are using gay as stupid. I knows gays call each other gay because they are being to fem sometimes but not to say your stupid.
And I know gays who use "that's gay" as stupid. I am one of the community who use "that's gay" as stupid.
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Aww, thanks, you are rotating my kinsey scale btw. Love you.lasombra1979 said:@sadmuffins13 said:
ChesterTheMolester said:
sadmuffins13 said:
ChesterTheMolester said:
sadmuffins13 said:
Gorgonia said:W> @ChesterTheMolester said:
Gorgonia said:u
ChesterTheMolester said: Gorgonia said: Orion said: @Gorgonia said: I never said they shouldn’t? I’m talking about when they use gay as in “man, that’s gay” (? That doesn’t make people ######### unless they go overboard about it knowing it can alter someone else’s peace of mind. I never said you never said they shouldn't. I said that you should speak for yourself instead of projecting, in your words, your "over sensitive" nature to the entire LGBT community. I think I mentioned I never felt oppressed due to my sexuality? I’m not over sensitive myself but many of my friends are and sometimes they react badly towards unintended offenses or jokes coming from people that ignore what being gay is and how gay people feel when their sexuality/orientation is used as a joke. Not justifying them, just saying that before we get mad we need to try and educate those people. Sorry but you contradict yourself there, you say its unintended that means there is no offense given, yet claim you don't justify that as if there was a crime. Given that its unintended, they may need to learn to differentiate between the two, because emotions don't justify actions, no matter if you are gay or misinterpreted a joke. They are after all responsible for their own behavior. I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.
Correct me if I read your response incorrectly
Im not talking legal term, and i haven't said there was no offense, there was no offense GIVEN. Huge distinction. If someone takes offense and reacts "badly", and the result is something unethical, then its all on the one who has taken the offense , in this case the gay. Saying that just because someone is LGBT he is not in control over his emotion is not only ridiculous but attacks their agency in return.
Okay, I think I know where the confusion is.
Someone feels offended by a joke and gets mad. Offender doesn’t know he is provoking this.
I said I don’t justify the offender because of his negligence, I also said that instead of getting mad at them I would rather educate them.
Unfortunately some people dont want to be educated. They are close minded an ignorant. Until they go through a similiar situation it means nothing to them. People would rather provoke and get a rise out of somebody then actually talk. An i personally don't have time to waste on it. An what do you mean joke??? Because i dont see how its funny. Its more like someone is taking a word and turning it into a negative. A word people use to idetify themselves with. So now am i a stupid gay...? Hahaha no.... How about we educate these people by throwing them a dictionary?
Another appeal to emotion here.
And what i've said applies to you too, just because you don't think its funny does not mean they are close minded and ignorant, though im pretty sure you will assume it, which would speak more about your misanthropic mindset than it does about them.And btw being ignorant is different from being an edge lord.
Seriously trying to justify something that is wrong? If something bothers me i will speak up. Its not being sensitive its called speaking my mind. Ive delt with people like you. An im done entertaining you.
Congratulations, you failed to read.
There is no thing as universal wrong when it comes to jokes, its highly context related, especially regarding who the audience of the joke is. And if you saw the thread in entirety then you'd know that i said that actual homophobic attacks should be banned so get out of here if you don't even know what the conversation you mixed yourself in is about.I know what this thread is about. Read the comments. Saw something someone said and commented. Saying thats gay isnt a joke... Maybe you should be the one leaving. Your always getting into arguemnts with people on here. Your toxic bro.
Guess what, to many people, including a good amount in the LGBT+ community, "that's gay" is a joke. They take it as a joke. They do not get offended by the joke.
@ChesterTheMolester is one of the less toxic members of this forum. The fact you call him toxic because he does not agree with your point of view is bad form. Your....I mean you're way off base attacking him.
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@Gorgonia said:
Who> @George_Soros said:@Gorgonia said:
How is educating condescending? Really? You educate customers, you educate people on certain topics, say drugs, safe sex practices. You educate people when you give information on a topic that is usually not discussed. It is not a matter of feeling you know better, it’s a matter of making information available to others whether they agree or not with the topic.But it definitely IS condescending, when it's about moral, religious or personal opinions. If you know a lot about astrology or Korean history and I don't, it's obviously not condescending, and no reason for me to feel insulted if you propose to educate me. However, everyone has some sort of view on the "human experience", life, morality, and so on. Again, suggesting to "educate" someone implies you claim to know better, without even bothering to ask why they feel the way they do. It is a dead end.
Whoever said educating is about transmitting moral, religious or personal opinions? When you educate you provide information. Educating is not telling you to accept homosexuals because your belief is wrong, it is telling you that homosexuals are not the same as HIV, that babies adopted by homosexual parents don’t magically turn gay, that homosexuality is not a sickness nor a mental disease.
Yet all of these negative stereotypes have some basis to them. (This is not to say they're correct.)
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@sadmuffins13 said:
You could have said your peace without saying two men kissing is gross...
Ok, I could have. God, I can't resist trolling a bit even when I'm trying to have a civil conversation. Sorry.
It is gross though.
Goddammit.
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I'm trying to figure out why some people are doing mental gymnastics to place the Blame on the one being insulted, rather than the a-hole.1
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The discussion got to be a scroll party on the mobile browser.
Live your life fully, don’t mess with others’. Agreeing on certain topics is indeed hard among friends, let alone when we are all in different countries with different mindsets and beliefs/education.
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I'm too lazy to read the full thing, but i wonder if it's still about IF it's bannable or not, since i DO know that was answered already.
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@Gorgonia said:
The discussion got to be a scroll party on the mobile browser.Live your life fully, don’t mess with others’. Agreeing on certain topics is indeed hard among friends, let alone when we are all in different countries with different mindsets and beliefs/education.
Hey, we finally found something to agree on.
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@Raccoon said:
Sorry I'm late!!!Not there yet. Wanna pitch in?
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Alright chester ill meet you halfway an agree that saying thats gay can be used as a joke. Distasteful to some but still anything can be a joke. An yea it can be negative. With jokes somethimes there is a thin line that goes from funny to not funny. An what joke? You mean the guy was just trying to get a rise out of me? Was there a joke?I didnt see a joke.ChesterTheMolester said:
Gay can be the punchline of a joke, its all up to context and the nature of the joke itself (which does not necessarily have any negative connotations), your perspective does not change what the joke was objectively.sadmuffins13 said:
I know what this thread is about. Read the comments. Saw something someone said and commented. Saying thats gay isnt a joke... Maybe you should be the one leaving. Your always getting into arguemnts with people on here. Your toxic bro.ChesterTheMolester said:
Congratulations, you failed to read.sadmuffins13 said:
Seriously trying to justify something that is wrong? If something bothers me i will speak up. Its not being sensitive its called speaking my mind. Ive delt with people like you. An im done entertaining you.ChesterTheMolester said:
Another appeal to emotion here.sadmuffins13 said:
Unfortunately some people dont want to be educated. They are close minded an ignorant. Until they go through a similiar situation it means nothing to them. People would rather provoke and get a rise out of somebody then actually talk. An i personally don't have time to waste on it. An what do you mean joke??? Because i dont see how its funny. Its more like someone is taking a word and turning it into a negative. A word people use to idetify themselves with. So now am i a stupid gay...? Hahaha no.... How about we educate these people by throwing them a dictionary?Gorgonia said:W> @ChesterTheMolester said:
Gorgonia said:u
ChesterTheMolester said:
Gorgonia said:
Orion said:@Gorgonia said:
I never said they shouldn’t? I’m talking about when they use gay as in “man, that’s gay” (?
That doesn’t make people ######### unless they go overboard about it knowing it can alter someone else’s peace of mind.
I never said you never said they shouldn't. I said that you should speak for yourself instead of projecting, in your words, your "over sensitive" nature to the entire LGBT community.
I think I mentioned I never felt oppressed due to my sexuality? I’m not over sensitive myself but many of my friends are and sometimes they react badly towards unintended offenses or jokes coming from people that ignore what being gay is and how gay people feel when their sexuality/orientation is used as a joke. Not justifying them, just saying that before we get mad we need to try and educate those people.
Sorry but you contradict yourself there, you say its unintended that means there is no offense given, yet claim you don't justify that as if there was a crime.
Given that its unintended, they may need to learn to differentiate between the two, because emotions don't justify actions, no matter if you are gay or misinterpreted a joke. They are after all responsible for their own behavior.
I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.
Correct me if I read your response incorrectlyIm not talking legal term, and i haven't said there was no offense, there was no offense GIVEN. Huge distinction. If someone takes offense and reacts "badly", and the result is something unethical, then its all on the one who has taken the offense , in this case the gay. Saying that just because someone is LGBT he is not in control over his emotion is not only ridiculous but attacks their agency in return.
Okay, I think I know where the confusion is.
Someone feels offended by a joke and gets mad. Offender doesn’t know he is provoking this.
I said I don’t justify the offender because of his negligence, I also said that instead of getting mad at them I would rather educate them.
And what i've said applies to you too, just because you don't think its funny does not mean they are close minded and ignorant, though im pretty sure you will assume it, which would speak more about your misanthropic mindset than it does about them.
And btw being ignorant is different from being an edge lord.
There is no thing as universal wrong when it comes to jokes, its highly context related, especially regarding who the audience of the joke is. And if you saw the thread in entirety then you'd know that i said that actual homophobic attacks should be banned so get out of here if you don't even know what the conversation you mixed yourself in is about.
Im not having arguments all the time btw, most are just conversations.
And if getting into arguments is what makes me toxic, you should have a look at track record of @Orion btw.ChesterTheMolester said:
Gay can be the punchline of a joke, its all up to context and the nature of the joke itself (which does not necessarily have any negative connotations), your perspective does not change what the joke was objectively.sadmuffins13 said:
I know what this thread is about. Read the comments. Saw something someone said and commented. Saying thats gay isnt a joke... Maybe you should be the one leaving. Your always getting into arguemnts with people on here. Your toxic bro.ChesterTheMolester said:
Congratulations, you failed to read.sadmuffins13 said:
Seriously trying to justify something that is wrong? If something bothers me i will speak up. Its not being sensitive its called speaking my mind. Ive delt with people like you. An im done entertaining you.ChesterTheMolester said:
Another appeal to emotion here.sadmuffins13 said:
Unfortunately some people dont want to be educated. They are close minded an ignorant. Until they go through a similiar situation it means nothing to them. People would rather provoke and get a rise out of somebody then actually talk. An i personally don't have time to waste on it. An what do you mean joke??? Because i dont see how its funny. Its more like someone is taking a word and turning it into a negative. A word people use to idetify themselves with. So now am i a stupid gay...? Hahaha no.... How about we educate these people by throwing them a dictionary?Gorgonia said:W> @ChesterTheMolester said:
Gorgonia said:u
ChesterTheMolester said:
Gorgonia said:
Orion said:@Gorgonia said:
I never said they shouldn’t? I’m talking about when they use gay as in “man, that’s gay” (?
That doesn’t make people ######### unless they go overboard about it knowing it can alter someone else’s peace of mind.
I never said you never said they shouldn't. I said that you should speak for yourself instead of projecting, in your words, your "over sensitive" nature to the entire LGBT community.
I think I mentioned I never felt oppressed due to my sexuality? I’m not over sensitive myself but many of my friends are and sometimes they react badly towards unintended offenses or jokes coming from people that ignore what being gay is and how gay people feel when their sexuality/orientation is used as a joke. Not justifying them, just saying that before we get mad we need to try and educate those people.
Sorry but you contradict yourself there, you say its unintended that means there is no offense given, yet claim you don't justify that as if there was a crime.
Given that its unintended, they may need to learn to differentiate between the two, because emotions don't justify actions, no matter if you are gay or misinterpreted a joke. They are after all responsible for their own behavior.
I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.
Correct me if I read your response incorrectlyIm not talking legal term, and i haven't said there was no offense, there was no offense GIVEN. Huge distinction. If someone takes offense and reacts "badly", and the result is something unethical, then its all on the one who has taken the offense , in this case the gay. Saying that just because someone is LGBT he is not in control over his emotion is not only ridiculous but attacks their agency in return.
Okay, I think I know where the confusion is.
Someone feels offended by a joke and gets mad. Offender doesn’t know he is provoking this.
I said I don’t justify the offender because of his negligence, I also said that instead of getting mad at them I would rather educate them.
And what i've said applies to you too, just because you don't think its funny does not mean they are close minded and ignorant, though im pretty sure you will assume it, which would speak more about your misanthropic mindset than it does about them.
And btw being ignorant is different from being an edge lord.
There is no thing as universal wrong when it comes to jokes, its highly context related, especially regarding who the audience of the joke is. And if you saw the thread in entirety then you'd know that i said that actual homophobic attacks should be banned so get out of here if you don't even know what the conversation you mixed yourself in is about.
Im not having arguments all the time btw, most are just conversations.
And if getting into arguments is what makes me toxic, you should have a look at track record of @Orion btw.1 -
@lasombra1979 said:
@Gorgonia said:
The discussion got to be a scroll party on the mobile browser.Live your life fully, don’t mess with others’. Agreeing on certain topics is indeed hard among friends, let alone when we are all in different countries with different mindsets and beliefs/education.
Hey, we finally found something to agree on.
Hah, I know I am not the best at expressing myself sometimes, but I agreed with what you said
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@Boss said:
I'm too lazy to read the full thing, but i wonder if it's still about IF it's bannable or not, since i DO know that was answered already.No, we spiraled completely off the track now.
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Holy c* *h flippity floppity u! That took forever to read through. Jesus ***k I had to skim read this s and because of that I couldn't retain the **i* show I had just witnessed. My god. Why do I miss all the best parts of any of these f***ing discussions?
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[Bad Word] this [Bad Word] I hate when * bolds things I don't want to [Bad Word] bold!
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Calm down pilgrim. The best part is not here yet. We still haven't posted our softcore home video with Chester.Shad03 said:Holy c* *h flippity floppity *u! That took forever to read through. Jesus ***k I had to skim read this s and because of that I couldn't retain the **i* show I had just witnessed. My god. Why do I miss all the best parts of any of these f***ing discussions?
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@George_Soros said:
Shad03 said:Holy c* h flippity floppity *u! That took forever to read through. Jesus ***k I had to skim read this s and because of that I couldn't retain the i* show I had just witnessed. My god. Why do I miss all the best parts of any of these fing discussions?
Calm down pilgrim. The best part is not here yet. We still haven't posted our softcore home video with Chester.
Eh. True, looking forward to that.
I feel like a no homo tag would be needed there.
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@sadmuffins13 said:
I dont have tolerance for people who say your gay and they mean your stupid. Just say your stupid. Black people dont like like the n word. Gays dont like the f word . like you can insult someone in so many way but choose to use sexual orientation as an insult? Pathetic...Oh damn.
RIP me and my gay self.
Also "Gays dont like the f word." is objectively false. I know multiple gays who use the word freely. My bf included. I don't, but I don't swear in general.
That's like saying women don't like the "c" word.
Also, I use all sexual orientations as insults. I must be super pathetic.
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If this reply is serious then allow me to explain sexuality with an analogy that has worked a lot for me.George_Soros said:@sadmuffins13 said:
You could have said your peace without saying two men kissing is gross...
Ok, I could have. God, I can't resist trolling a bit even when I'm trying to have a civil conversation. Sorry.
It is gross though.
Goddammit.
Sexuality is like chocolate bars. Everyone has their favourites that they tend to stick to. Maybe milk chocolate is your thing, and in this scenario the milk chocolate is symbolic of women, whilst white chocolate is symbolic of men.
The reason why you find two white chocolate bars smushing up against each other is because you prefer milk chocolate. If two milk chocolate bars started smushing up on one another you might enjoy that instead. But everyone has a right to enjoy whatever chocolate type they want and they should be able to live their lives without people telling them what chocolate they should like.1 -
I want to eat chocolate now.
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@Gorgonia said:
I want to eat chocolate now.I know, right? Thanks a lot, @JammyJewels!
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You’re totally welcome.Orion said:@Gorgonia said:
I want to eat chocolate now.I know, right? Thanks a lot, @JammyJewels!
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I still have lots of leftovers from Xmas. It’s raining here now... rain + choco + DbyD... who wants to SWF? Lol
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I would.
If I wasn’t one of Sony’s console peasants. 0 -
Thank you.GodDamn_Angela said:@sadmuffins13 said:
I dont have tolerance for people who say your gay and they mean your stupid. Just say your stupid. Black people dont like like the n word. Gays dont like the f word . like you can insult someone in so many way but choose to use sexual orientation as an insult? Pathetic...Oh damn.
RIP me and my gay self.
Also "Gays dont like the f word." is objectively false. I know multiple gays who use the word freely. My bf included. I don't, but I don't swear in general.
That's like saying women don't like the "c" word.
Also, I use all sexual orientations as insults. I must be super pathetic.
To think of it, it's probably that if someone feels uncomfortable about himself/herself, they take it harder. And I doubt the right message when talking to such people is "don't worry, we'll protect you".0 -
@JammyJewels said:
George_Soros said:@sadmuffins13 said:
You could have said your peace without saying two men kissing is gross...
Ok, I could have. God, I can't resist trolling a bit even when I'm trying to have a civil conversation. Sorry.
It is gross though.
Goddammit.
If this reply is serious then allow me to explain sexuality with an analogy that has worked a lot for me.
Sexuality is like chocolate bars. Everyone has their favourites that they tend to stick to. Maybe milk chocolate is your thing, and in this scenario the milk chocolate is symbolic of women, whilst white chocolate is symbolic of men.
The reason why you find two white chocolate bars smushing up against each other is because you prefer milk chocolate. If two milk chocolate bars started smushing up on one another you might enjoy that instead. But everyone has a right to enjoy whatever chocolate type they want and they should be able to live their lives without people telling them what chocolate they should like.
I can give you a more serious answer. If you want.
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Oh, I’d be interested to read your thoughts.George_Soros said:@JammyJewels said:
George_Soros said:@sadmuffins13 said:
You could have said your peace without saying two men kissing is gross...
Ok, I could have. God, I can't resist trolling a bit even when I'm trying to have a civil conversation. Sorry.
It is gross though.
Goddammit.
If this reply is serious then allow me to explain sexuality with an analogy that has worked a lot for me.
Sexuality is like chocolate bars. Everyone has their favourites that they tend to stick to. Maybe milk chocolate is your thing, and in this scenario the milk chocolate is symbolic of women, whilst white chocolate is symbolic of men.
The reason why you find two white chocolate bars smushing up against each other is because you prefer milk chocolate. If two milk chocolate bars started smushing up on one another you might enjoy that instead. But everyone has a right to enjoy whatever chocolate type they want and they should be able to live their lives without people telling them what chocolate they should like.
I can give you a more serious answer. If you want.
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I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.ChesterTheMolester said:
Sorry but you contradict yourself there, you say its unintended that means there is no offense given, yet claim you don't justify that as if there was a crime.Gorgonia said:
I think I mentioned I never felt oppressed due to my sexuality? I’m not over sensitive myself but many of my friends are and sometimes they react badly towards unintended offenses or jokes coming from people that ignore what being gay is and how gay people feel when their sexuality/orientation is used as a joke. Not justifying them, just saying that before we get mad we need to try and educate those people.Orion said:@Gorgonia said:
I never said they shouldn’t? I’m talking about when they use gay as in “man, that’s gay” (?
That doesn’t make people ######### unless they go overboard about it knowing it can alter someone else’s peace of mind.I never said you never said they shouldn't. I said that you should speak for yourself instead of projecting, in your words, your "over sensitive" nature to the entire LGBT community.
Given that its unintended, they may need to learn to differentiate between the two, because emotions don't justify actions, no matter if you are gay or misinterpreted a joke. They are after all responsible for their own behavior.
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I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.
Correct me if I read your response incorrectly or misinterpreted it.Negligence from a legal stand point comes for a preventable action that causes harm. Leaving your car in neutral on a hill and it runs smashes into a bus full of nuns is Negligence. Using legal terminology in a discussion of personal feelings is comparing apples to tanks. They are not related at all. Telling a bad joke that hurts the feelings of one person is not a crime. Well maybe a crime against comedy, but not a legal crime.
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In the UK hate speech (calling someone fat, gay (these are small words yet are actual things that can be used to accuse you of hate speech)) is a matter in which Police CAN be involved. Police are going into schools because of cyber bullying and are arresting people because someone can’t handle being told they are overweight. It is ridiculous how sensitive some people are, but I dare say that no blame should fall upon the victim. But the oppressor should only be punished for a crime once it becomes evident that such things that are said are no longer said out of initial anger, but rather attempts at harassing a player.lasombra1979 said:@Gorgonia said:
I’m saying that I’m not justifying the joke or the offense based on their ignorance or lack of intention. How is that contradictory? And how is an unintended action with a negative consequence not an offense? Negligence does have a consequence, legally.
Correct me if I read your response incorrectly or misinterpreted it.Negligence from a legal stand point comes for a preventable action that causes harm. Leaving your car in neutral on a hill and it runs smashes into a bus full of nuns is Negligence. Using legal terminology in a discussion of personal feelings is comparing apples to tanks. They are not related at all. Telling a bad joke that hurts the feelings of one person is not a crime. Well maybe a crime against comedy, but not a legal crime.
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