How could you make killer more fun?

Well, when I play Killer there are three things that make me feel bad very quickly: Clonky mechanics, holding shift-w and stale perks.

First point is pretty easy as it is about things like Hillbilly getting stopped by a small branch of a tree, Ghostface getting revealed (strech res says hi), getting window hits I should not get or miss those that were good.

I can deal with a survivor outplaying me but things like those branches or missing chainsaw hits while the survivor is right in front of me are hindering my fun. Same for things like the Twins or Deathslinger, they just feel bad. I like Pinhead because his mechanic is smooth. Little things like looking in the direction where I launched my chain, good sound effects and I see when which chains should break.

Holding Shift+W is a problem in itself. It is too rewarding to just run and not try to loop certain Killers even thou you can. Take Artists as an example. She is pretty strong at the loop but also quit predictable. You see the crows, you see when she slows down and you can chain two loops together too great effect as three crows are not enough. Same for Pyramide Head: His steering makes running into him very effective and faking windows/pallets is also pretty good.

However basic M1 Killers suffer the most from this. When I play Ghostface and a survivor just holds shift+w this gets ugly pretty quick. The problem is that this tactic is not only good against strong Killers but also trashes bad Killers even harder.

For this reason looping should be more rewarding for survivors than just running.

And finally stale meta: I dislike seeing Dead Hard. Not because I dislike Dead Hard, I can deal with it. I just want to see more different perks. People say they hate Boil Over and Cycle of Healing? I like them because I finally get to see more perks.

As such: Change Exhaustion time and recovery. Give Dead Hard more Exhaustion, give Smash Hit 15 seconds of Exhaustion and Lithe 30 seconds or so. Hell, I was outplayed by Lithe hard yesterday and I love it...

Same for Killers: I dislike facing Pop/Ruin/Scourge Hooks again and again...it gets boring pretty quickly.

I don’t know how people get kills camping it never works for me plus camping is boring. Unless you’ve got a tent 🤣

I'd say that making maps balanced would help in this matter

And buffing the "weaker" Killers... though I don't know how I'd handle all of them

Plus making Killer activated perks and Survivor activated perks different

Like Deep Wounds and Blocked Gens for instance

I think killer is fun, and I only play killer in fact because I never found survivor all that enjoyable. Of course there’s little things here and there that I wouldn’t mind if they were changed, but nothing that makes me think that on the whole the game isn’t fun to play.

Off hand, my personal wish list probably includes

• Remove map offerings. These just cause more problems than any benefit they provide. Any time there’s a map exploit, for example, the map offerings just exacerbate the issue.
• Have bots replace disconnected players like they do on the mobile version of DbD. Yes, bots don’t play as well as people, but they’re still better than having no player at all. And if a killer disconnects on PC it just ends the game entirely, so having a bot replace the killer in this instance is even that much better that.
• Hide opponent’s Grades on the score screen. Grades just confuse a lot of players who think they’re used for matchmaking. There’s literally no reason other than it takes development time to remove them that I can think of to still show the Grades of the opponents on that screen. (Knowing your own grade is obviously still worthwhile since it’s used for monthly bloodpoint rewards.)
• Revamp add-ons which use bloodpoints as balancing against a handicap (e.g. Padded Jaws makes traps not injure and compensates with doubling the trap event score). Add-ons should focus on effects than impact the match itself, not the currency you get between matches. Replace all the “bonus ponts on events” benefits with some benefit that does something to actually help you in the match.
• Have a timer that, if nobody scores any additional points for say five minutes, then the game goes into sudden death and the endgame collapse starts. This would help prevent those annoying occasional stalemates where everybody is hiding or the killer is bodyblocking the last survivor preventing them from leaving by the hatch, etc.
• The devs have already commented that they’re actively working on improving the bloodweb somehow to reduce the grind some people feel, so I’m looking forward to seeing what comes of that.
• Revamp a few perks that are currently basically useless. Monstrous Shrine and Furtive Chase and Beast of Prey on the killer side for instance have worthless effects (reducing the chance of a self escape in the basement and giving stealth during a chase respectively). And on the Survivor side No Mither is actually worse than running no perk at all outside of some bizarre exploits.
• Add a way to track your personal stats like how often you play various characters and get kills or escapes, etc. A public leaderboard could even be a next step after that, but just being able to even see your own stats would be a nice addition.
• Add a random character selection option in the character select screen. A random loadout selection button could too. (Yes, there are some websites that make randomized suggestions, but their recommendations assume you have those characters and perks or add-ons which there’s a decent chance most players won’t have everything at a given moment. Having it be an ingame feature makes it just a one-click instant function.)
• Emotes or sounds or music as rift rewards or in the shop. I’d be much more excited over entertaining emotes or customized sounds than getting dozens of charms. (In fact the new Huntress shows the devs might be starting to think of things along these lines with her unique lullaby and sound effects which is pretty cool! 🙂)

Killer emotes would make the game more fun.

The problem is toxic survivors. Who would want to get chained blinded or BO squad bullied late at night? Killers just try to learn a new killer or try a new perk out a some prick teabags every pallet stun, gangs up with flashlighters, abuses multiple body blockers with boiled over and use extremely bright, eye sore cosmetics. If a killer uses anti bully perks then that's a perk slot not used for slow down, lethality or tracking which if you want to do well you better bring perks that do this. (especially slow down) I only play killer when I A. Have a ritual to do. B. Have a rift challenge to do. Or C. Been doing too much survivor or have gotten tired of waiting in queue. The reason for this is toxic survivors and bully SWF squads. I want this game to be fun for all players of all preference and experience (granted noobs need to warm up and learn the game through experience 1st) but as long as jerk offs dedicate themselves to being toxic pieces of human garbage that will not happen.

Biggest problems are tunnel/camping/gen rush. In the future, they will add survivors' status & may be BT basekit, which is definitely help to reduce tunnel/camping effectiveness. Then Killers definitely need something with gen rush without requires 4 slow down.

well I play both sides and I have to sweat to just get 1k or 2k that what is not fun and survivor is way easier even in solo

I know as survivor you wont escape everytime but I escape way more then I get 4k

normal game for killer is I either get 1k if I'm luck or 0k that with everyone on they death hook but by then all gens are done gates are 99%

There are killers who do not opt to camping and tunneling all the time.

At some point even the best killers will opt to tunnel where it makes sense. All I see sometimes is players who think they have already lost (at 3 gens or their ruin got popped) so they want that one person, even tho they might have gotten more kills if they had tried.

Solo Queue survivors do not need a buff. How do you buff someone who constantly wants to hide and refuses to touch gens?

I seriously don’t understand why people don’t farm between their serious matches. I usually do after 4-5 games. It helps me loosen the tension if I had a challenging match, and you’d be surprised at how funny and cute survivors can be when you’re just messing around, it’s a side we don’t get to see from each other often so I’ve learned to appreciate it.

I know not all solo survivors are like that, but the majority of the complaints stem from their lack of being efficient. Now, you might think it is because they lack info but so many times I have brought Kindred only to watch them crouch next to my hook because they don’t have BT and aren’t willing to take a hit for me.

SWF is often successful because of the reliability it provides. Yes they can communicate better, but even if you were to mute each other, you’d still see them being efficient and knowing that you might have to take someone else’s aggro at some point. Things like that.

how the matchmaking is I sometimes get good games too like last night I was getting 3k to 4k but I think my MMR got low but if I start doing to good in a lot of games or get a DC I start letting people go.