Most OP perk in DBD history.

You could get rid of old ruin as fast as you can get rid of current ruin

Original Decisive strike (As in, the one before we have right now) was just broken. 60 seconds of invincibility

The old old decisive strike was also awful

Would original MoM be able to trump both of these?

Once per Trial, when grabbed by the Killer, succeed a Skill Check to automatically escape the Killer's grasp and stun them for 3/4/5 seconds.

Old Ruin actually used to be one of the few perks I enjoyed a lot on both sides - as a killer (because of the nice gen-pressure) and as a survivor (because of the need to always hit great skillchecks, which added some challenge to the usually snorefesting holding M1 simulator).

Then again, we all know that even old Decisive wasn't as OP as the Pharmacy is. Green Medkits Supremacy!

It had 2 diff effects

If you were the obsession, when picked up you'd do the typical escape from grasp DS thing

If you weren't the obsession, when your wiggle meter got to a certain low point like 25% or something - you'd get the DS skill check.

Both were awful, but the 2nd effect also made taking hits basically guarantee someone wiggling off

I'm late to this one and obviously the poll results are basically set in stone, but c'mon, who was actually gonna vote for Old Ruin lol.

Old Ruin was a problem, but separately it was also problematic because it was insanely inconsistent. Skill checks depend completely on RNG so you could do nearly an entire gen. with only two checks pop up, and the next gen get hit with a skill check every 5 or 10 seconds. Let alone the difficulty of the skillchecks was also subject to RNG as well- those two skillchecks I just mentioned could be some of the easiest to hit and on the other side of the spectrum those skill checks every 5 to 10 seconds could be awful.

So it was very much a hit or miss perk that had the potential to stall a match for really long periods of time- and perhaps have just as much impact if not greater than current Ruin. However, the tradeoff was that this didn't happen every single match and for more than a few of them Ruin could just as easily have been ignored, even if it wasn't cleansed.

Of the two, I think DS was worse, but OG Object was also horrible.

I never felt DIRTY and IMMORAL for bringing old ruin.

Maybe a little bit of a jerk - perhaps a killjoy or a tryhard.

Hitting a killer with old DS made me feel like a villain - like I was the problem with the world.

The fact it took Behavior THIS long to rework it is criminal.

Old Sabo when hooks didn’t respawn because the only way to counter this was with basement hooks. So imagine a entire swf going around Saboing every hook in the map, it made it almost impossible to hook anywhere except basement