Don't play survivor. AFK Pigs everywhere.
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Welcome to the forum circus
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Yes, they nerf 'anything' survivors cry about, while they are currently nerfing boil over and not DMS but please, King. Continue to tell us of these biased developers that bow down to survivors.
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Been stuck at home for the. Last two days due to snow and played a lot of Dbd. I’ve had lots of pigs but not one of them Afk’d. A lot of them were big meanies and wouldn’t let me touch their glorious snoot.
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you're a reasonable person trying to have a rational argument with someone who isn't reasonable and that never ends well.
People like them are literally blind to any nerfs survivors get and feel like they're some kind of victims of oppression because they play a certain side of the game. Ironically, killers spend more time crying on the forums that anyone but they claim survivors cry all the time about reasonable complaints like oh let's see:
-trying to play and enjoy a game only to be facecamped by some troglodite
-having a killer purposefully block a device needed to survive and forcing survivors to do gens and have their head explode with no counterplay
But nah, it's just survivors crying about nothing right. Not like they want to enjoy a game or anything. The bias and hypocrisy on these forms is astounding and the person you're arguing with can't be reasoned with
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To be fair dms i feel is fairly balanced for m1 killers its just doc and artist who kinda break it. I feel its a healthy combination otherwise and something fresher then ruin undying tinkerer every game. That's just me though.
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I understand what you're saying, and I promise I'm not asking for DMS to be nerfed, but I have absolutely seen people calling it op on this forum and asking for it to be nerfed, it was just an example of super current things people are complaining about.
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Yes survivors, play killer.
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Because they can rob a win with múltiple methods, maybe?
They can use RPD Offering + Boil Over + Boon Totem for infinite Unbreakable to take the Game as hostage.
They can go full Bully Squad with Sabotage + Toolbox + MoM + Healing Totem and denie every Hook to the killer.
They can use Gideon Offering and Make the killer play a pallet breaking simulator unless he/she is playing Nurse and win the game with maybe 2-3 hooks if they are decent?
I don't know, there is a few examples of how survivors rob wins everyday without any kind of punishment, using tools that the Game gives to them, similar yo AFK pig is doing right now, using a tool like Bodyblocking to secure kills. And is not Robbing nothing because with bad luck 2 can escape, with luck only 1 dies, in my examples, 4 players rob an entire Game to the only player at the opposite side.
The problem is yours, you want 4 escapes every Game and use Killers like toys, sorry but we have right to have fun as you do Tbagging us at Gates :)
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I don't ever care for them or for their petty playstyles.
Just moving on if that happens.
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Pig gets nerfed anyway, it doesn't matter what happens.
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As someone who mains pig it's quite disappointing seeing all these people playing her when they barely did before just so they can abuse a mechanic. Then people who actually play pig are the ones who suffer. They're pathetic.
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It sucks that people are exploiting this....I love Pig and I dont really want her traps nerfed :/ people just suck.
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Played survivor all this morning and the only Pig I saw did not do this.
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Why afk as pig if they dont get any reward from afking as her.
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If you use the video tape addon and go afk infront of one of the boxes, there's a decent chance you'll get a free kill if not more
all for the low low cost of using an ultra-rare addon that used to be an uncommon
Weird innit
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I don't want the iri addon to get nerfed considering that pigs can still do this afk strat without any addons but with the added effort of downing a survivor. even otzdarva faced against an afk pig like this. honestly i don't know how you would fix this without causing much harm to the pig's passive power.
maybe have the searched boxes be able to be re-searched if the pig is staying at your last box? i'm not sure how hard that would be to code, but removing collisions is definitely not the way to go about it.
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I liked @WesCravenFan's idea.
Remove Killer collision after a set amount of time without moving, perhaps two minutes, same as the time it takes for the full sacrifice to complete.
This solves both the AFK Pig exploit and bodyblocking hostage scenarios
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Yeah I saw a suggestion like that in the other thread but what would that achieve really. killer's collision gets removed but they can still interrupt or grab you while at the box :|
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True, but that's not an exploit.
If they are truly AFK, then they can't grab you
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Imagine making post like - Do not play killer, survivors are repairing gens!
WoW, survivors are doing what they must do to escape, as Killers are doing killing survivors.
The tools that they decides to use are not important if It is legit, and sorry my Friends but Bodyblocking is a Game tool, same as Second chance builds, SWF Bully squads or dcing for giving hatch to other survivors while using hatch Offering :)
Stop crying
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Don't tell me what to do.
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ive only run into 1 ever and that was ages ago and then when it failed they just 1v1d me at shack
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Make it 8 boxes, 2 with keys. Still 25% chance, but no possible AFK blockings.
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I've gotten 2 pigs, but they were legit killers
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This is post of survivors who want to have shorter que time.
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I have yet to run into a box blocking pig but I know they exist also its not an exploit as they changed one add on to have 3 boxes on the map instead of 2 so the devs know about the pigs who block boxes
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You may be in high or low MMR- I’m in mid and I’m not seeing it. Just had a match with Pig and two yesterday- none of them were doing this. Hell, I don’t run into that many Pigs to begin with- even for a rift promoting her. I play everyday at all sorts of hours. I haven’t ran into this meme build yet. Only seen it on Youtube.
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I said so in the past week and I say it again: that pig gets nerfed all the time is by now a meme and self-deprecating joke, but all this afk pig clowns will get pig nerfed again, and this time legitimately, and the one who will suffer under it ain't the jokesters who jumped on the bandwagon for a quick laugh, but the legit pig mains. What a tragedy in the truest sense of the word.
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make it so the first box that was searched , can be searched again after the survivor searched their third box or make it so the 3rd box has a 100% guarantee of having the key if the pig use the iri addon
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What's with this mindset of them being "out there to ruin your game"... they're playing their own game and using a strategy that may or may not pay off. It's up to you to play around it. If you don't find it fun to play around various killer's abilities, why are you playing this game??
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Wait a second...
"Two of my teammates' keys unfortunately belonged to the camped box and these players are out there to ruin your game."
Only one key is on a jigsaw box. Meaning that 2 players cannot remove their traps on the same box. So that means you're lying and rage quitting or your teammates just give up easily.
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They are nerfing Boil Over because of how abusive it has been.
DS was "nerfed" on multiple occasions because it actually needed to be tweaked so players were not saving it and still working on Gens using it as a offense instead of a defense perk.
And the DH is not going to be a Nerf, they are trying to work ok the visual bugs that are giving Killers misinformation during chases and attacks.
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You are wrong. What box a key is in is RNG. One box could contain all four keys.
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Boil over is getting nerfed because people would stall the game and deny the killer's time spent looping by just wiggling out for free and force the killer to try slugging for 10 minutes. You could no mither unbreakable as well which made it even more obnoxious.
DS let you do gens in the killers face and was horribly designed. If you're doing bones/healing/unhooking/working on a gen you are NOT being tunneled. It's still one of the strongest perks in the game after all these nerfs.
DH was already an insanely strong perk even before it had hit validation. Most used exhaustion even with the chance it might not work if the killer is close because dodging a hit was never why it was strong. It's the distance gained at the press of a button letting you play very greedy with little risk now that you will never get hit through it.
You act as if these balancing changes were made just to ruin survivor's fun. Boil over will stay a bully squad perk because the perk itself just isn't good.
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I miss when the word exploit had a meaning besides "thing I dislike." If the devs could not forsee the add on being used this way then they legit didn't test it at all nor even really discussed it with each other outside of designing it and putting it in game. It's so obvious and people knew it within a day, but somehow a team of well paid developers were so caught off guard by this that it's an exploit because it was unforeseeable to them (like boil over abuse was lol). It seems the best way I have seen people try to call this an exploit is by asserting the pigs are all afk, even though I have actually never seen an "afk pig." I've seen ones blocking boxes, but that's not afk and they often do things like spam roar if you get close or move to look at people who come by, showing they again, are not afk. And rather than destroying Pig because of an add on put in as a replacement for gutting her other add ons due to some personalities disliking them, perhaps you should just change the way searching boxes work. Just make it so survivors can search a box from the sides. That simple. Of course, it won't stop pigs from camping a box and just attacking you if you try to solve it, like they always could. So I am sure it's not sufficient for some.
Or maybe it's time to give Pig a Freddy redesign since it's clear her design does not function in a way the devs like and most likely never will.
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No, I do not act like that.
The original comment I replied to said this, "Yes. It is an issue that they mostly nerf anything survivors complain about."
I presented clear evidence that the opposite is true as well. You can not like it all you want, but those are the facts.
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There was already only a handful of "Pig Mains". Games fallen into a poor state, got a gang of us that quit. Doesn't help that our public champion Scorpionz has been disenchanted with the game either. This new wave I'd wager isn't from pig mains, just run o the mill killers trying to troll games. Me personally, I don't really care what these players do or what happens to pig as a result. Given up hope on this game ever being in a stable state, or anything close to how it was years ago. We're here...but a lot of us aren't actually "here".
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