What do you think new Haddonfield will be

The same, but with BREAKABLE WALLS! And pretty. The art team nails design, it's the balance team that has a rough time doing things correctly.

But those maps were already fair to begin with.

Haddonfield was never fair, and we all know it is going to get worse. If it doesn't, then all of us can proudly say that we we've witnessed a miracle.

Not to me. And Cowshed will always be an abomination, regardless of what happens.

None of those maps you've mentioned have ever bothered me, to be honest. Especially Torment Creek, as it was the first map I've ever played on as killer, back in 2018.

Yeah I mean when survivors burn coldwind they're usually trying to get rotten fields or cowshed

I think Thompson house was really bad at one point pre-rework, same with Abbatoir and what people used to call the 'Matt Walker' windows. I think they got nerfed before the rework though.

Abattoir had a nasty window on its main building and some people used to have problems with the number of pallets and tiles on Thompson's House (which, to be perfectly honest with ya, was not as bad as some people made it out to be), but both of those got changed way before that atrocious reworked dropped.

Hopefully better, I'll take anything over the p2 graphics.

It’ll look better, since the art team pretty much always nails it.

House of pain probably gets breakable walls, and main building might get the same with the god window (the one that currently doesn’t spawn anymore) so it isn’t a god window.

Hopefully they reduce the fences a bit.

And that’s about all.

Honestly i hope they take out house of pain entirely. It's so annoying going to myers house, go upstairs and someone already dropped and is running there.

Well, everyone already addressed the main issues. So I hope for a more foreboding and scary atmosphere, this is supposed to be a cold, foggy and moist October night, aka Halloween or Hallows Eve, but it feels more like a hot summer night where you can't sleep and lounge a bit outside. And while there are some interesting pictures on the walls, most houses are just shells. This is the case in most houses and places in the game, but Haddonfield used to be lived in, until just a moment ago, so maybe they can take this opportunity and add a few furnitures or toyscin Myers room or girly stuff in Laurie's etc.

My current assumption is that this'll be primarily a graphics overhaul, and they're gonna tweak a few balance things while they're in there. Presumably we'll see something for some of the more problematic houses and hopefully something for the fences.

Honestly, people meme on breakable walls, but a few smartly placed breakable walls in the taller fences actually would be a good idea. Preserves the narrow choke point for killers that can capitalise on it, but gives the ability for killers who can't to make that area more mindgame-able.

Visually, I'm hoping they don't change it dramatically- it's not like Coldwind or Gideon's where those maps looked awful and now look far, far better, this one already has a nice balance of darkness and contrast so it's still possible to see things on it. Ideally I'd like to see more detail inside the houses, they've always felt a bit barren to me.

Wait questions wouldn't it better for you to trap the pain house window and door and having one spare for the basement stairs instead of the grass

Is the grass on Haddonfield really good trap locations?

I don't play trapper that's why I ask

Just like new badham.. And new cowshed… and new Gideon… and new crotus prenn. The exact same as before

Just a disjointed labyrinth of long fences. No buildings, just fences.

I think a lot of people here are forgetting that Haddonfield is THE #1 most complained about map balance-wise. I'm sure the devs will have made sure to take on all that feedback.

Like the old one, but worse.

Just give me some more visual Easter eggs from the Halloween movies. I'll settle for that.

Who?

if they put Breakable walls...is gonna be a living hell 2.0..to play on that map