The Amanda's Letter add-on for The Pig has been Kill Switched due to an issue with incorrect RBT count.
http://dbd.game/killswitch
Debates feel mostly pointless
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Look? this is the problem, if people see different opinion, they just go "you aren't playing" or "you clearly are xxx main".
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Its unfortunate that killers and survivors doesn't have their own devotion. Cause that would close up some issues.
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If you are the only one who decide a point is valid or not, I don't think any debate can have meaning.
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I said that noed should be a one minute timer. Someone else said that it would make the perk useless. I played endgame noed builds, and then thought that a 60 seconds timer might make those builds bland then. So i wouldn't be against a bigger timer or a permanent noed under certain conditions. When someone make a valid point my position evolve. You didn't make any, and you make no sense.
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It doesn't matter whether if I make sense to you or not, because that's not the point.
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Thats how NOED used to work. Is was just a perk on a 120 second timer. Wasn´t a Hex back then.
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You make no sense cause you don't play the other side. For you a killer able to mechanically block any unhook, that isn't a problem. Let me give you an equivalent: what about places where downed survivor wouldn't be picked up by the killer? Fair?
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When exit gate were opened. Not since when the fifth gen pops.
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It's not just about evolving your position, it's about engaging with other people's positions in good faith and responding to them seriously. Saying someone is biased, that it's clear they don't play one side, that they want to make the game worse, and anything similar isn't good debate form and that's on you to fix, not your conversational partner.
(Though, if someone's position is clearly ridiculous you can also just not engage.)
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Are you sure is it really equivalent though?
Removing killer's capability to hook is like removing survivor's capability to do generators since both of those are main objective of them, I don't know what will be equivalent though... maybe removing the capability to kick/slowdown gens or something like that?
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But it would still mean, going back to an old and obsolete mechanic.
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You want a better equivalent? Old brand new parts then.
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So what's the point... So I can come up with my opinion on the matter
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But how is it equivalent?
I don't get why killers getting a kill with whopping 120 seconds of pseudo afk is equivalent to survivors fixing a generator in one click, I'd say I don't even get a connection between those two.
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No. Having a timer when doors are opened or when the fifth gen pops is very different.
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Killers can't defend gens because of one thing in particular. Survivors can't unhook because of one thing in particular. Simple. Stop being so dishonest.
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Now it kinda makes sense.
But killers will lose the game by preventing those unhooks, while survivors will win by finishing those generators.
Can you honestly say that is equivalent?
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Firstly there isn’t any real “debate” here it’s mostly people throwing in their opinions without reading any other posts. Online forums are basically echo chambers rather than forums and that’s why most people are here.
The online nature also means half the participants are either too young, too stupid, or too incapable of coherent communication to understand what they themselves are saying before they even try and understand what someone else is saying.
Lastly the goal of debate is not to convince your opponent but rather the wider audience that your point is correct or more valid. Your opponent’s opinion at the end of a debate is irrelevant because what they think is not your goal. The people who don’t realise this get caught up in personal argument instead of debate.
“I’m not here to convince you the opponent, I’m here to convince them the audience” is the winning debate mindset.
There is no real debate on this forum it’s largely venting and arguing which is why you see the same topics circling around and everyone just sledging each other. Pointless really. It’s just another form of train wreck entertainment. It’s painful to see yet you can’t look away.
There is enough of a cool-down between shocks to time an unhook.
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