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Honestly, today was the worst I've experienced in this game in the five years I've been playing
I can honestly say today was the worst day I have ever had in the five years I have been playing this game.
I've been playing all day as killer. Choosing different killers off and on and swapping perk loadouts. Going in just wanting to have fun, not caring about winning but more so about hooks and good chases.
It's been gross all day with the exception of a few matches. Just the worst you can imagine. Swfs full meta loadouts, purple flashlights, tons of toxic taunting and teabagging, tons of macro machine gun flashlight clicking. Just awful.
My last game of the night takes the cake. A 3man swf and 1 rando at coldwind. They dropped the coldwind offering. I was Nemesis.
Now the stats will show great things. I scored a perfect game. 8k around the board. 32k points and a 4k. Stats will show I wrecked them.
However....
What I went through just wasn't worth it. It was one of the top 5 worst games I've had in a long time.
These disgusting players came in with the intention of simply making me miserable. All 4 had dead hard. All four had borrowed. 1 had break out. 3 had purple flashlights and two had that annoying macro machine gun clicking.
It was a game of pure chaos and bullying taunting, clicking, tons of insta blinds, a few locker animation unfair blinds and loads of teabagging.
The match lasted ages. They got down to 1 gen. And I slugged the last 3 down 1 had unbreakable but luckily I was close enough to knock them back down.
There they sat, while I pushed the headache from my eye sockets and waited.
They were messing with me. That gen could have been done. But instead, they dragged it out just to flashlight stun, and break out stun as much as they could.
This game had turned into a disgusting abuse fest. Survivors don't play the game anymore. They taunt and abuse as much as they can.
I see this so much lately and its breaking this game. The devs have given Survivors so much power they are bored of doing gens and instead torcher killers instead.
This will go unnoticed bc stats say it's a perfect game.
It wasn't.
It was one of my worst.
They've broken this game. And honestly, I don't know how they can come back from this. It isn't healthy.
I'm taking a break playing killer. They seriously need to address the power role here. It's gotten out of hand.
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Me too, man. And my sister. No idea what's in the water today, but the experience has been horrific. Wish these pathetic excuse for human beings were watching the Super Bowl.
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Same except survivor side. Literally every match is face campers on first hook.
Neither side is fun to play lately so I've been just not playing LOL
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I'm losing interest in the game fast. I'm struggling to bother with the tome pages or even doing my daily.
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Don't know about other people, but I personally LOVE bully squads. Why?
Unless I'm playing a garbage killer, I always win. They get so cocky assuming I'm bad at the game that they throw the game. They attempt fake window vaults, window techs, dumb techs, 360s etc. They don't work so they die. After that, I camp knowing they will be swarming the hook. They come in and unavoidably, they trade hooks.
But yet, even if I get the 4k, why would I like this experience? Because I am a particularly vengeful person and I absolutely LOVE collecting their end game insults in my "Neátity's Jar of Salty Tears". I just love them calling me all names (tunneler, although not a single one got tunneled lol) while I only say "K." "gg wp" over and over after every single message of them.
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I had one of the worst SWF squads today, too, at Ironworks. A Stephe and Nancy were the biggest culprits, but an Ace and Mikaela were also doing their part. Nancy and Stephe did all the stuff that OP told about. The others were doing their stuff, ie booning totems and doing gens, while Nanc and Steph were constantly hovering around me, just outside of my grasp, having expert knowledge of how far they could push each loop or window and constantly flashlight clicking and fast vaulting, just to annoy me. It was such a slough and an endless battle to finally tunnel Mikaela, the weak link, out. Then it was equal punishment for all till I finally, somehow slugged first Stephe, then Nancy and hooked them next to each other, so that the Ace couldn't get to them and instead proceeded to do all the gens.
Ace was okay-ish but nowhere near the level of those two and I quickly cornered him at one of the exit gaes. He t-bagged me like mad while I downed him ... and then I took my sweat, petty revenge and slugged him for the full minutes, knowing fully well that we wouldn't DC, as that would mean an even longer waiting time for his and his friends who were spectating. So I watched some Youtube on my second monitor while casually walking along Ace's frantic crawl for the hatch.
They were all there in the post-game chat, which was extra spicy and well salted and they accused me of being super bad at everything in the game, from looping to mindgaming and suggested that I should go play call of duty or something. Eventually their insults turned more personal and surrounded the supposed status of my facial features. When I asked them if they were 12 they stated that that was non of my buisiness, so I guess they were indeed just some edgy kids.
This was a very sad and bad experience, but its not uncommon these days, far from it. This people are so bored with the base game which they mastered ages ago that the only fun they can still extract from it is via making the life of others as miserable as possible. But if you challenge them its all "Lulz whats your problem? Why take it so seriously? Its just a GAAAAME. We just have some fun. LMAO"
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i don’t know why but Sunday DBD is the absolute worst.
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This. I don't agree with the survivors just trying to bully the killer for fun, but I can't really blame people for playing in SWF. This game is almost unplayable for solo survivors. Nothing but killers that tunnel, camp, etc. You also get survivors that kill themselves on first hook, DC, troll their teammates, work with the killer, etc. Solo desperately needs buffs. This is why we are seeing so many SWF players.
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SBMM throw up and ######### with whatever full-sweatfest we do.
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Yeah, I don't envy people who still persist in playing Killer.
Nor do I envy people who play Solo Q.
Should tell you something that 2/3's of the roles in the game are considered bad.
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Working as intended
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Yeah I cant say I've been playing either. Gotta balance the game as it should have been and then find a fundamental way to get rid of camping, rather than attempting to solve it with perks.
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The game has sadly opted into and embraced some of the most unfun gameplay mechanics you could think of.
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Worst experience in the game so far
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I have had more fun than i thought i would. I have had bad games and good games and the good games i had were so fun to me that i forgot how bad some of my games was. Best part for me was that i got to play against Ev3ntic and it was the most fun cowshed match to me ever
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I can't imagine anything worse than sore winners. "They BULLIED me with DH and BT and the TEABAG and the FLASHLIGHT 😭" grow up geez
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Played one killer game tonight and all I heard was clicky clicky clicky clicky clicky. Like they all died but it wasn't fun.
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Looks like you don't like hockey
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It's a taunt. When you are taunted, you feel bad, always. Even if you don't cry or rage, you can't just not be upset. As the OP said, it was an unfun experience.
Stop endorsing bullying and bad sports.
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Jokes aside, they were just good and you need to learn how to handle these kind of situations.
Omg they had meta perks? So what? That was your decision to go into the game with meme perks, it does not give you the right to complain about their perks.
Flashlight macro? Oh no, you poor guy, I start to cry immediately...
The match lasted ages? Well it was also because of you probably, you were playing as sweaty as them.
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Well, the issue is still that mmr pairs you with whatever after a while, so a chill/new killers will get sweaty squads, new survivors will get sweaty killers. It's just unfun experience right now.
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Sorry despite the trauma you claim to have been thru if you scored a perfect score with a 4k you didn't have that bad of a time I assure you.
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Flashlight macro's hurt my eyes so I feel that's a valid complaint
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dude, the leave button exists for a reason. If you're sure yo have a bully lobby then bail. I do it every time I pick up on it and feel no shame in doing this. I'm not gonna get bullied while doing a daily or rift challenge at 1am. Screw that!
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Yesterday I played 1 game of DBD. I originally needed to play a killer game because I had 3 rituals but told myself I will do it after I play some survivor. Yui DC'd at 5 gens and the killer still felt the need to tunnel back to every hook. I'm out even said ######### those rituals too. Played gears and watched the first half of SB instead (Really just wanted to see halftime show) as professional sports are a joke these days. Football & Basketball were a true passion of mine growing up and to see what both have become saddens me.
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I was watching the super bowl :(
the bengals threw so hard at the end tho
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I honestly find toxicness on both sides and sometimes I just don’t want to play anymore, but I keep coming back because I want to finish the rift and get some Bloodpoints for The Ringu chapter characters. But I agree, some survivors are not playing the game and loading into the game just to bully the killer, had a game the other day where a toxic prestige 3 Nea, typical lol, who I chased for the whole match, yeah I could’ve broken chase and went for someone else but I just wanted her. Anyways was about to down her and she was on death hook, last gen pops and she had adrenaline. She must’ve been a swf with two of them cause they were tbagging and clicking at the gates. But the cherry on top, she had an active trap on and it she didn’t make it out LMAO. She got her karma.
But as a survivor, if you are decent at looping the killer, get a few stuns in, a few fakes or even 360. You’ll be face camped, hit on hook. And in solo queue usually die on first hook. Tunneling and camping killer are the reason I’ve learnt to get better at the game and toxic swfs have made me get toxic perks, so if I think they are swf, I usually bring perks swfs don’t like, Franklins, Noed, Bloodwarden, all the fun Stuff 😉
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I dont understand why you are complaining about SWF. Its the only advantage survivors have and they are just trying to have fun with friends. U said that you played against a SWF in Coldwind as Nemesis. But winning in Coldwind as Nemesis isnt even hard because Nemesis is an anti-loop killer.. so you can easily get hits or downs at most of the loops.
As for the clicking, tbagging issue... I think they are just trying to celebrate their victory by doing it and i dont see anything wrong with it. Also, tbagging clicking doesnt affect the gameplay so i dont think its a problem.
Just because you had bad matches for 1 day doesnt mean killers are weak and survivors are strong.
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I get what your saying with move on but those other 3 did not choose that teammate. You can 9 hook to salvage the game for you and them.....so you and them can get BP and possibly still pip up. Shouldn't take but 5-10 max to hook 3 survivors 9 times. They would barely have a chance to touch gens at that point.
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It’s the weekend there are a lot of kids on.
played two games this weekend. Both Myers.
First game is dead dawg offering and survivors tried the saloon locker tech all game. Fortunately light born. It was a typical body block boil over, flashlight spam affair.
Now none of that is toxic
It does set a rather obnoxious tone to the game though. Fortunately NOED gets me 1 hook and three downs in the endgame. It’s a hook at the very corner of the map near the gate and the three downed all crawl into the corner hoping boil over will save them. Well they bled out because there was nothing else I could do.
The toxic part is the post game abuse where I get called all manner of things for running NOED and bleeding them out. I don’t bother engaging because it’s not worth it. I say gg rate the game 1 star and move on.
Second game is a repeat of the first but on auto haven.
Again outside of the endgame abuse none of this is toxic. It isn’t the most fun to play against though and after two games of it, well that’s me done today.
I would have played more if there were custom mode bots instead of just pvp.
Replaying Tyranny with a scarlet chorus run through instead, haven’t done that before.
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You are correct in that meta perks, flashlights, being better at the game than someone else is not toxic.
When survivors stop doing the last gen to just try and get as many blinds and farm the killer for as many points as possible it can get a little tiresome though.
A post like this is no different to people complaining about camping and tunneling, none of it is toxic but it can be unfun to face it in back to back games.
I usually have 1-2 really obnoxious opponent games in me till I think yeah that’s enough dbd today. Regardless of outcome.
Sometimes winning isn’t enough if its a ######### game experience. I’d rather everyone escape from a fun game than I 4K a ######### game.
My definition of fun is different from some else’s though so it’s just blind luck if you get fun games or not in random pvp.
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Wow. I'm sorry that you had such a bad time. No one deserves to suffer when they are supposed to be having fun.
Still I gotta say sometimes it's just us killers wanting to be miserable.
Sometimes as killer when I realize that I'm against a full potato team I'll just put everyone on death hook but not kill them. Then I'll just chase them, knock them out and let their friends get them up, let them loop and stun me, kick their gens every now and then, as they slowly get the gens done. When we are down to 1 Gen I go all out and try to kill them. Sometimes they all escape, sometimes I kill them. In my head I'm trying to let them play the game, get some practice and bp and often they show appreciation, but sometimes I have also been called out for toying with them or just downright torturing them.
Similarly about half the time I run into this really hard SWFs, they toy with me and drag out the last Gen I just try to get bps if it's a killer I'm bad with I try to learn how beat them. When the match is done I usually just say "you're good, thanks for the match".
Sometimes they are toxic, but often they are not. They ask if I got max BP and sometimes they even offer advice on how to fix my mistakes, regardless if it was a 4e or 4k.
I do get the pull to win. Everyone likes to win, but I don't understand the need to make loosing or bein stomped a miserable experience. Only time I'm miserable is when I try to play Bubba. I just can't.
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If you couldn't do any taunting this game would die because people want to have fun with their friends it's not fun to hold M1 the whole game and if they did that the first thing you would see is a bunch of nerf gen speed posts on here, this game is slowly coming to an end because neither side will ever be satisfied no matter what they do to the game and that's the harsh reality.
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Lmao and you can't have fun with friends without taunting? Back in 2017 I was part of a sweat SWF team abd we had A TON of fun by just playing really well. Later we became a bully squad but that stopped within a month as the group dismantled.
We had just as much fun playing nicely like we had by being bullies. To this day I still play the game without taunting people and I still have a lot of fun.
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There's a difference between using your perks and items effectively, and using your perks and items to constantly harass, be loud, taunt, and drag out full games and prolong unnecessary chases for the sheer sake of giving the killer as hard of a time as you can.
You go into a match that should last 5 minutes but instead lasts 12 to 15 minutes of THAT!
you would be saying grow up to them.
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Nice to know you can tell me how I feel.
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Yes. Considered it but 2 things crossed my mind.
1. That's what they want.
2.dc timer.
So I went through it. All 13 minutes of annoying toxic immature survivors. But hey I guess cuz perfect score nothings wrong. 🙄
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I don't see why people get upset by "bully squads" if they aren't hammering gens. Survivor interaction is what makes the game fun. Be more cautious and play aware, trust me it's much more fun than a bunch of immersed clauds.
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Totally agree with that. It's unrelated to how bad or good you did during the game. Even if you manage to ruin the other person's game after that, you'll still have a bad feeling about this game because of the taunting. I've stopped playing killer for a while because of this: even when I play against camping/tunneling killers, I have a better game experience because (most) killers don't have interactions to taunt the survivors.
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Usually bully squads known loops well enough to be extremely hard to get hit and time consuming. So they taunt, click, and teabag and blind constantly while they abuse the broken loops.
It's like.. ha ha you can't get me. Na na
And it ruins the experience of the game when it's the whole match.
The maps are partially to blame. To many safe spaces.
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I 4K most bully squads because they waste so much time but the problem is, as the OP stated, is that the game is not fun nor do I want to play.
Unfortunately, BHVR, as stated by a dev, does not feel that this is toxic behaviour so your only choices are to try to ignore it or just stop playing Dbd. That hinders growth of the game which is why I really don't understand why BHVR feels that way but, unfortunately, while BHVR does feel that way nothing will be done.
Sorry OP, I hope you get better matches.
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i feel you
i'm basically a survivor main but i do play killer sometimes(i just don't consider it my style because i prefer third person camera and more human characters and stuff) and one time i was the artist
i don't know the name of the map but it had those cornfields and a big house, you know? so yeah i got a bully squad there! i don't know if ALL of them were together but at least 3 of them were, i felt a little bit like one David wasn't with them cause he was the only one doing gens but maybe he was with them i dunno
they would just bully me and not play the game normally and keep blinding me and doing flashlight saves and ######### and i just couldn't do much(probably because i'm not the best killer too and i was kinda new so i didn't know how to deal with this)
eventually i trapped them in a bathroom in the big house and i just stayed there until i felt like some of them were far away enough, then i picked David up i think and hooked him and just stayed there
i just needed one kill and i'd be done with it
eventually they saved david or something
i think i killed one of them in the middle of that
but they just kept waiting for me at the gates while i was just wondering around, i didn't wanna look at them
they let themselves die to the entity in the end but it really wasn't fun... but that was just one time
most of my matches as killer are normal and it's probably because my MMR is not very high
but i do get very frustrated playing as survivor(not that i don't get frustrated playing as killer)
killers camp, BM and do all sorts of things to make us feel miserable or they just take advantage of unfair things you can do in this game
me trying to play with my friend who's new to DBD? they tunnel him to death
we don't even try to be nasty
the killers just see him and tunnel him to death
killers tunnel people to death unnecessarily all the time
they camp too
tease hatch and then close it after already getting 3K
Wraith and Tricksters BM the most from my experience
anyway
it's just very frustrating on both sides
and honestly for survivors it can be worse because if the killer is THAT kind of player you're not even going to survive
after all the stress and all the unfair evil stuff you also die
with killer you at least get the chance to punish those people because you're the one who can beat them up
as survivor if a killer wants to bully you there's nothing you can do especially as a solo survivor(and i play solo the most soo... yeah it's pretty frustrating)
anyway
i understand you, but i just wanna say it's not only survivors who are like that
it's very unfun to both sides, but hey, not all matches are like that! sometimes i get very frustrated with the killers i get but some of them are nice, some of them are too nice lol, but yeah, those killers just manage to melt my heart again after bad matches haha
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I'm not saying that I can't have fun without it, but I know a ton of people would stop playing the game because some people play for the laughs and they don't care if they die, as much as some people hate it the game needs those people to survive
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And I don't think the game would be in a worse place without bullies.
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You say that until your que times are ridiculous and then you'll be wishing they were back just so you could play in a reasonable amount of time, I don't ever want to go back to 45 minute wait times for a match
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I am trash MMR cuz I don't play alot so I don't face that many bullies anyway lol. That won't affect me.
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