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Leatherface is actually the worst killer
Disclaimer: this is an opinion purely based on personal experience
I know that everyone is stuck with the meme that Freddy is the worst killer, but I think with good addons and in good hands (not mine) he can actually put a lot of pressure on survivors and do good. I still think he is due to a rework for being mostly unfun, but that's another matter.
What can Leatherface do, though? Revving his chainsaw makes him slower than survivors, the charge needs time to get to full speed (starting from the >100% speed) and his hitbox is so huge he can't hug walls unless risking to get stunned in a very long animation. With all these downsides he doesn't have half the map pressure of the Hillbilly, who can do all he does, but better.
All these downsides are very easily "exploited" by a survivor in a very simple way: run in a circle around an obstacle. Since Bubba can't hug the obstacle as much as the survivor he will inevitably loose ground, or worse, get stuck in a tantrum that's long enough to loose the survivor. Doesn't matter what addons were used, since I started to use this method I wasn't downed once with the chainsaw: Leatherface is just an M1 killer against me, with no useful ability whatsoever, to the point I wonder how people haven't realised it yet and still get chainsawed.
I can already hear the voices saying "but he's good at camping"... sure, but only against bad survivors. I've seen many situations where even in the basement (that should be his reign) the killer couldn't get more than one survivor... how? Simple: survivors spread out just enough to not get chainsawed and managed to sneak away while one was downed. This is no different than what would have happened with any other killer. I'd add that the Huntress is way more dangerous in the basement and can potentially down 3 survivors in a bunch of seconds at base with just good aim. The point is, his ability to hit more survivors is good only if survivors allow it. And since decent survivors usually don't... you get it. That said, non-basement camping is no different than camping with the Hillbilly, with the difference that HB doesn't struggle to get a survivor on a hook.
To conclude this, I wanted to say that after the Freddy rework, which is already coming as per popular request, it would be a good thing for the community to point at Bubba and ask for a serious buff/rework to make him more than a disabled Hillbilly (funny how it should be the opposite). The poor guy is in the game since a year and a half and everyone was too buisy with the Freddy meme (who came later btw. Just a month, but still later) to consider him.
TL;DR Bubba sucks and should get a rework. But seriously, read, if you're on a videogame forum you have time to spare.
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I personally love the cannibal, I'm not the best killer but I still enjoy him, it is very annoying hitting a wall and getting stunned for 10 years unfortunately. To be honest it wouldn't be fair to be as fast or faster then survivors if you're charging up your chainsaw, you're already decently fast while swinging the chainsaw anyway, however I would like to see a little buff or maybe tracking to the last part of his move, where he strikes down, sometimes im really close to them but I dont hit them somehow, I mostly get 4 men kills but that's because I vs plebs like myself lol0
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Yeah, I personally think Leatherface is the worst killer as well. But people will always say *hE hAs aN InStA-dOwN tHo!!!* yeah, but that doesn't even help if the survivor has a window or pallet around. At least hillbilly can get around fast if he cant use his chainsaw somewhere, what can leatherface do better than Billy? Camp? Yeah no, leatherface is the worst killer. Change my mind0
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He’s just a very situational Killer. If the Survivors can’t fix generators, he’s amazing. If they gen rush and get to the end game, he could be screwed. COULD BE.CalamariRings said:Yeah I don’t know why everyone thinks Freddy is bad. He’s actually extremely good if you know how to play him.
With his teachables, he can be decent at the end game, but most of the time he’s f*cked by having to wait for the dream transition. That, and he also has absolutely ZERO chasing skills. Insidious seems to work interestingly with him though.0 -
I agree.
One of the worst things about bubba is the way people play him and this is why I kinda dislike these 2 things. Camping and NOED.
I believe that stat-wise, he is not terrible at all. Leatherface players choose to camp the first poor survivor, and then get another one by using NOED (this is my experience, not every game but most of them I say). Since it is almost impossible to save a person from leatherface, I am pretty sure he is close to that 50% kill rate. This is why the devs will be hesitant to improve him.
Community wanted combat straps as base kit for pig and it took ages for the devs to do that. Community wanted that the survivors should not be able to see the killers' perks until the match is over, it took 3 years. Community thinks that freddy is not powerful and he should get a rework, we still don't know anything about his rework. I don't think we are going to see a buff or a rework for leatherface soon.
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As the killers currently are I'd need a lot more convincing to believe Freddy isn't the worst killer. Leatherface is definitely down there against the right survivors. Both killers arguably are the most dependent on addons in comparison to other killers though. What most killers should have adjusted on them is what The Pig is having adjusted for her. The combat straps are almost too good so to make up for this fact BHVR is buffing her base ambush speed and nerfing the addon. Leatherface / Freddy could use similar changes quite honestly. Although both definitely can be exploited the most even with this in mind.
Regarding Leatherface personally for me the only issues I have is when there are multiple windows close by which forces me to stick with the mallet when the chainsaw would obviously be more ideal. I've never had an issue with survivors running circles around any obstacles unless the collisions are really wonky. Usually I can offset this though by angling Leatherface away from the wall and facing outward on the circle. His chainsaw sweep is still large enough to hit the survivor but if he's facing a certain angle from a wall the tantrum doesn't seem to trigger. Although maybe I just have dumb luck and have never bumped into a wall doing this.
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Nurse is worse killer change my mind0
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killers that need to be toned down/nerfed:
- nurse (her power is based around teleporting, which makes pallets obsolete in a certain way)
- hillbilly (it's the definition of a outdated killer, 115% with a movement ability and just all around a killer for people who are too afraid to learn nurse)
- legion (nurse but it takes no skill, and frank mixtape)
killers that need tweaking/buffs:
- leatherface (he is a bad killer, he relies too much on survivor mistakes and it doesn't help that most of his add ons are dogshit)
- freddy (even though he might be a good killer, he mostly relies on rng to be good, which can either break him or make him)
im still going with the idea that nurse/billy/legion should be toned to the levels of other killers if the devs plan on making any other killer more fun to play as/against
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Leatherface breaks pallets fast, has the ability to insta down and stuff like hook rushing is absolutely deadly. With addons and perk combos like fury+enduring he's really dangerous. The only thing I hate is the long stun time, the slow down if you charge and the weird M2 mechanic.
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Completely agree with you. Chiliboi definitely needs some buffs.0
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He's really addon dependant
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Hey, don't judge how I spend my time.0
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Leatherface is good at punishing survivors for their mistakes but he has a real problem when Survivors make no mistakes.
He's the Killer that relies the most on the incompetence of Survivors besides Legion. Legion is even worse.
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@MrChubChub said:
killers that need to be toned down/nerfed:- nurse (her power is based around teleporting, which makes pallets obsolete in a certain way)
- hillbilly (it's the definition of a outdated killer, 115% with a movement ability and just all around a killer for people who are too afraid to learn nurse)
- legion (nurse but it takes no skill, and frank mixtape)
killers that need tweaking/buffs:
- leatherface (he is a bad killer, he relies too much on survivor mistakes and it doesn't help that most of his add ons are dogshit)
- freddy (even though he might be a good killer, he mostly relies on rng to be good, which can either break him or make him)
im still going with the idea that nurse/billy/legion should be toned to the levels of other killers if the devs plan on making any other killer more fun to play as/against
legion should not get nerfed, want an explanation, even devs are trying to buff legion because they don't like them in there current state
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No.
Freddy is not better than leatherface.
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@MrChubChub said:
killers that need to be toned down/nerfed:- nurse (her power is based around teleporting, which makes pallets obsolete in a certain way)
- hillbilly (it's the definition of a outdated killer, 115% with a movement ability and just all around a killer for people who are too afraid to learn nurse)
- legion (nurse but it takes no skill, and frank mixtape)
killers that need tweaking/buffs:
- leatherface (he is a bad killer, he relies too much on survivor mistakes and it doesn't help that most of his add ons are dogshit)
- freddy (even though he might be a good killer, he mostly relies on rng to be good, which can either break him or make him)
im still going with the idea that nurse/billy/legion should be toned to the levels of other killers if the devs plan on making any other killer more fun to play as/against
I'm seriously offended. I was a Nurse main for hundreds of hours but got tired of all the survivors complaining, so I learned how to play Billy. Do I really have to go back to make people happy again?
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"OMG Billy is like the 2nd best killer in the game!!!!"
"LOL Bubba is so bad he's like the worst killer in the game, maybe Freddy is a bit worse than him XDDDDDDDD"Bubba and Billy are literally the same except Bubba is missing Billy's map pressure and Billy can't camp as effectively, otherwise they're the exact same. Both can be looped and in that regard are "bad". If you don't want to get looped play Nurse.
If you want to play Bubba he's no worse than 80% of killers. If you think he's bad, it's just you being trash at the game.0 -
@PiiFree said:
@MrChubChub said:
killers that need to be toned down/nerfed:- nurse (her power is based around teleporting, which makes pallets obsolete in a certain way)
- hillbilly (it's the definition of a outdated killer, 115% with a movement ability and just all around a killer for people who are too afraid to learn nurse)
- legion (nurse but it takes no skill, and frank mixtape)
killers that need tweaking/buffs:
- leatherface (he is a bad killer, he relies too much on survivor mistakes and it doesn't help that most of his add ons are dogshit)
- freddy (even though he might be a good killer, he mostly relies on rng to be good, which can either break him or make him)
im still going with the idea that nurse/billy/legion should be toned to the levels of other killers if the devs plan on making any other killer more fun to play as/against
I'm seriously offended. I was a Nurse main for hundreds of hours but got tired of all the survivors complaining, so I learned how to play Billy. Do I really have to go back to make people happy again?
"Legion is a top tier killer guys."
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Legion is better he can down any survivor without having any skill i mean he has a power to down any skilled survivor while leatherface even with good addons cant down skilled survivor fast you just can keep him on distance and he cant do anything skillful to get closer to you its just matter of time thats why leatherface is the weakest killer and needs real rework besides i really like texas chainsaw massacre probably the best slasher movie of em allPiiFree said:Leatherface is good at punishing survivors for their mistakes but he has a real problem when Survivors make no mistakes.
He's the Killer that relies the most on the incompetence of Survivors besides Legion. Legion is even worse.
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No not really. He is not in a good spot, but if you chase with him you still have a decend killer. His instadown forces survivors to take M1 hits in safe spots. They can't take them while moving from one spot to another, because then he could instadown them.
Besides that he is all about positioning especially on certain maps, if he catches you offguard you are down. He can destroy pallets faster etc.
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In theory LF is really bad, but in reality survivors throw themselves at the hook even if you rev your chainsaw a few inches away, which makes him a lil bit stronger
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@Slayer said:
Legion is better he can down any survivor without having any skill i mean he has a power to down any skilled survivor while leatherface even with good addons cant down skilled survivor you just can keep him on distance and he cant do anything skillful to get closer to you its just matter of time thats why leatherface is the weakest killer and needs real rework besides i really like texas chainsaw massacre probably the best slasher movie of em allI'm not talking about winning a chase, I'm talking about winning the match. Legion might be good to land a hit but to win a match it requires stupid survivors that waste time healing up ect. Every Killer besides Nurse, Hag, Spirit and Huntress suffers from that "Leatherface syndrome" of having to mindlessly chase Survivors until close enough to hit them. That's not a Leatherface-exlusive. Leatherface is even in that comfortable position to be able to instantly down them instead of having to chase them twice.
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@nomorevideos said:
"OMG Billy is like the 2nd best killer in the game!!!!"
"LOL Bubba is so bad he's like the worst killer in the game, maybe Freddy is a bit worse than him XDDDDDDDD"Bubba and Billy are literally the same except Bubba is missing Billy's map pressure and Billy can't camp as effectively, otherwise they're the exact same. Both can be looped and in that regard are "bad". If you don't want to get looped play Nurse.
If you want to play Bubba he's no worse than 80% of killers. If you think he's bad, it's just you being trash at the game.Now that you called me trash for no reason I'm very interested in listening to your opinion.
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Dude he cant catch you offguard if he did that was your fault or he had some perk like tinkerer but in that case it was simple luck .Freudentrauma said:No not really. He is not in a good spot, but if you chase with him you still have a decend killer. His instadown forces survivors to take M1 hits in safe spots. They can't take them while moving from one spot to another, because then he could instadown them.
Besides that he is all about positioning especially on certain maps, if he catches you offguard you are down. He can destroy pallets faster etc.
Of course he needs improvements and his AddOns need a complete overhaul, but his power doesn't hold him back like Freddy or Legion's does.
Legion can still pip even if he didnt kill anyone. Freddy has strong addons or good player can play him fine he actually can catch you offguard and he s able to land a hit right after putting you into sleep its all mind gamingPiiFree said:@Slayer said:
Legion is better he can down any survivor without having any skill i mean he has a power to down any skilled survivor while leatherface even with good addons cant down skilled survivor you just can keep him on distance and he cant do anything skillful to get closer to you its just matter of time thats why leatherface is the weakest killer and needs real rework besides i really like texas chainsaw massacre probably the best slasher movie of em allI'm not talking about winning a chase, I'm talking about winning the match. Legion might be good to land a hit but to win a match it requires stupid survivors that waste time healing up ect. Every Killer besides Nurse, Hag, Spirit and Huntress suffers from that "Leatherface syndrome" of having to mindlessly chase Survivors until close enough to hit them. That's not a Leatherface-exlusive. Leatherface is even in that comfortable position to be able to instantly down them instead of having to chase them twice.
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@Slayer said:
Legion can still pip even if he didnt kill anyone. Freddy has strong addons or good player can play him fine he actually can catch you offguard and he s able to land a hit right after putting you into sleep its all mind gamingFreddy still has to chase you for the 2nd hit, that's exactly the same as Leatherface requires to down you with his chainsaw: One chase.
Yes Legion can easily pip but that doesn't make them win matches. I like how you twist the words.
Being good in getting the first hit (aka Freddy, Legion, Wraith) doesn't mean you are good at winning the matches.
Being able to pip easily doesn't mean you're able to win easily, unless you value a pip as a win which is not the case for me and therefore not relevant to my statement. If I'm talking about winning as Killer, I'm talking about getting 3-4 kills.
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For me pipping is winning . You can get 3 kills and still not pip . I think how good you performed in a match is what defines the win for killer .PiiFree said:@Slayer said:
Legion can still pip even if he didnt kill anyone. Freddy has strong addons or good player can play him fine he actually can catch you offguard and he s able to land a hit right after putting you into sleep its all mind gamingFreddy still has to chase you for the 2nd hit, that's exactly the same as Leatherface requires to down you with his chainsaw: One chase.
Yes Legion can easily pip but that doesn't make them win matches. I like how you twist the words.
Being good in getting the first hit (aka Freddy, Legion, Wraith) doesn't mean you are good at winning the matches.
Being able to pip easily doesn't mean you're able to win easily, unless you value a pip as a win which is not the case for me and therefore not relevant to my statement. If I'm talking about winning as Killer, I'm talking about getting 3-4 kills.
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@White_Owl said:
@nomorevideos said:
"OMG Billy is like the 2nd best killer in the game!!!!"
"LOL Bubba is so bad he's like the worst killer in the game, maybe Freddy is a bit worse than him XDDDDDDDD"Bubba and Billy are literally the same except Bubba is missing Billy's map pressure and Billy can't camp as effectively, otherwise they're the exact same. Both can be looped and in that regard are "bad". If you don't want to get looped play Nurse.
If you want to play Bubba he's no worse than 80% of killers. If you think he's bad, it's just you being trash at the game.Now that you called me trash for no reason I'm very interested in listening to your opinion.
Every person I've ever seen talking about Leatherface obviously never played him for more than 1 or 2 matches. Every killer main claims that Billy is a top tier killer yet also claims Bubba is THE WORST or SECOND WORST killer in the game. Bubba is the exact same as most M1 killers. His power isn't as good as Myers', but Myers' power needs to be prepaired while Billy's and Bubba's are just short charges.
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Bubba doesnt get quick chainsaw sprint is what makes him bad you need to be really bad if you get insta downed by leatherfacenomorevideos said:@White_Owl said:
@nomorevideos said:
"OMG Billy is like the 2nd best killer in the game!!!!"
"LOL Bubba is so bad he's like the worst killer in the game, maybe Freddy is a bit worse than him XDDDDDDDD"Bubba and Billy are literally the same except Bubba is missing Billy's map pressure and Billy can't camp as effectively, otherwise they're the exact same. Both can be looped and in that regard are "bad". If you don't want to get looped play Nurse.
If you want to play Bubba he's no worse than 80% of killers. If you think he's bad, it's just you being trash at the game.Now that you called me trash for no reason I'm very interested in listening to your opinion.
Every person I've ever seen talking about Leatherface obviously never played him for more than 1 or 2 matches. Every killer main claims that Billy is a top tier killer yet also claims Bubba is THE WORST or SECOND WORST killer in the game. Bubba is the exact same as most M1 killers. His power isn't as good as Myers', but Myers' power needs to be prepaired while Billy's and Bubba's are just short charges.
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Bubba doesnt get quick chainsaw sprint is what makes him bad you need to be bad if you got insta downed by leatherfacenomorevideos said:@White_Owl said:
@nomorevideos said:
"OMG Billy is like the 2nd best killer in the game!!!!"
"LOL Bubba is so bad he's like the worst killer in the game, maybe Freddy is a bit worse than him XDDDDDDDD"Bubba and Billy are literally the same except Bubba is missing Billy's map pressure and Billy can't camp as effectively, otherwise they're the exact same. Both can be looped and in that regard are "bad". If you don't want to get looped play Nurse.
If you want to play Bubba he's no worse than 80% of killers. If you think he's bad, it's just you being trash at the game.Now that you called me trash for no reason I'm very interested in listening to your opinion.
Every person I've ever seen talking about Leatherface obviously never played him for more than 1 or 2 matches. Every killer main claims that Billy is a top tier killer yet also claims Bubba is THE WORST or SECOND WORST killer in the game. Bubba is the exact same as most M1 killers. His power isn't as good as Myers', but Myers' power needs to be prepaired while Billy's and Bubba's are just short charges.
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@PiiFree said:
@Slayer said:
Legion is better he can down any survivor without having any skill i mean he has a power to down any skilled survivor while leatherface even with good addons cant down skilled survivor you just can keep him on distance and he cant do anything skillful to get closer to you its just matter of time thats why leatherface is the weakest killer and needs real rework besides i really like texas chainsaw massacre probably the best slasher movie of em allI'm not talking about winning a chase, I'm talking about winning the match. Legion might be good to land a hit but to win a match it requires stupid survivors that waste time healing up ect. Every Killer besides Nurse, Hag, Spirit and Huntress suffers from that "Leatherface syndrome" of having to mindlessly chase Survivors until close enough to hit them. That's not a Leatherface-exlusive. Leatherface is even in that comfortable position to be able to instantly down them instead of having to chase them twice.
Unless there is a window/pallet closeby.....
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@Slayer said:
Freudentrauma said:No not really. He is not in a good spot, but if you chase with him you still have a decend killer. His instadown forces survivors to take M1 hits in safe spots. They can't take them while moving from one spot to another, because then he could instadown them.
Besides that he is all about positioning especially on certain maps, if he catches you offguard you are down. He can destroy pallets faster etc.
Of course he needs improvements and his AddOns need a complete overhaul, but his power doesn't hold him back like Freddy or Legion's does.
Dude he cant catch you offguard if he did that was your fault or he had some perk like tinkerer but in that case it was simple luck .
PiiFree said:@Slayer said:
Legion is better he can down any survivor without having any skill i mean he has a power to down any skilled survivor while leatherface even with good addons cant down skilled survivor you just can keep him on distance and he cant do anything skillful to get closer to you its just matter of time thats why leatherface is the weakest killer and needs real rework besides i really like texas chainsaw massacre probably the best slasher movie of em all
I'm not talking about winning a chase, I'm talking about winning the match. Legion might be good to land a hit but to win a match it requires stupid survivors that waste time healing up ect. Every Killer besides Nurse, Hag, Spirit and Huntress suffers from that "Leatherface syndrome" of having to mindlessly chase Survivors until close enough to hit them. That's not a Leatherface-exlusive. Leatherface is even in that comfortable position to be able to instantly down them instead of having to chase them twice.
Legion can still pip even if he didnt kill anyone. Freddy has strong addons or good player can play him fine he actually can catch you offguard and he s able to land a hit right after putting you into sleep its all mind gaming
I play LF on a regular base and I catch survivors offguard as well. Yes, I use Tinkerer. But catching someone offguard could also mean, when somebody is moving without SB in a non-pallet region, or when you chase them that you destroy the pallet in a way, that they can't reach the same safe spot. Like I said, he is a decend killer in a chase.
And a killer who pips well isn't necessarly strong. Killers with an instadown like Hillbilly have problems with to gain chase emblem tokens while Legion gains way to many. But he is far away from beeing a weak killer.
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@Slayer said:
For me pipping is winning . You can get 3 kills and still not pip . I think how good you performed in a match is what defines the win for killer .So if you get 3 kills and don't pip, you lost? That makes no sense.
I killed all 4, 3 full sacrifices but one of them bleed out (was hiding somewhere). The result was a safety pip. I think I still won, even though I didn't pip because they gen rushed like crazy.
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@Master said:
Unless there is a window/pallet closeby.....You have 2 options in that case:
M1 and play him like a basic M1 killer.
Just keep chasing them until you're safe to use M2.As I said, he still heavily relies on the incompetence of Survivors (which means that I think he is weak) but he is not as bad as Legion.
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@PiiFree said:
@Master said:
Unless there is a window/pallet closeby.....You have 2 options in that case:
M1 and play him like a basic M1 killer.
Just keep chasing them until you're safe to use M2.As I said, he still heavily relies on the incompetence of Survivors (which means that I think he is weak) but he is not as bad as Legion.
Indeed, against good survivors leatherface is basically a M1 killer.
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@Master said:
@PiiFree said:
@Master said:
Unless there is a window/pallet closeby.....You have 2 options in that case:
M1 and play him like a basic M1 killer.
Just keep chasing them until you're safe to use M2.As I said, he still heavily relies on the incompetence of Survivors (which means that I think he is weak) but he is not as bad as Legion.
Indeed, against good survivors leatherface is basically a M1 killer.
Whether he is as bad as legion or even worse doesnt really matter, IMO all killers need a hefty buff to be put up to nurse lvl and survivors get ingame voice comms to balance the gameI'm not sure about ingame voice comms being a good idea. Two big problems coming with that:
annoying little kids spamming their ######### music and flamers insulting and ruining everyones fun, so you'd have to mute half the players and end up as "solo" yet again.
it would require a total rework of several perks, items, add-ons and even Killers.
It would be hard to balance for example Trapper around a team of full voice comms. Not saying it's not possible but it requires a lot of time / work and you'd have to completly rebalance the game.
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If they decreased the speed penalty when charging up the chainsaw, and added 2 ultra rare add ons...
1: Irridescent Chili - Completely remove speed penalty when charging the chainsaw
2: Carbon-Fiber Chasis - Tremendously decrease penalty when bumping into objects (1.5 or 2 seconds)
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yes he s the weakest, relying too much on perks
buff suggestions:
- M2 in progress cancel anytime (having bumped or not) with another M2 click
- faster speed when charging chainsaw
- faster speed when chainsaw attack in progress
at least he got the best mori IMO
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@PiiFree said:
@Master said:
@PiiFree said:
@Master said:
Unless there is a window/pallet closeby.....You have 2 options in that case:
M1 and play him like a basic M1 killer.
Just keep chasing them until you're safe to use M2.As I said, he still heavily relies on the incompetence of Survivors (which means that I think he is weak) but he is not as bad as Legion.
Indeed, against good survivors leatherface is basically a M1 killer.
Whether he is as bad as legion or even worse doesnt really matter, IMO all killers need a hefty buff to be put up to nurse lvl and survivors get ingame voice comms to balance the gameI'm not sure about ingame voice comms being a good idea. Two big problems coming with that:
annoying little kids spamming their ######### music and flamers insulting and ruining everyones fun, so you'd have to mute half the players and end up as "solo" yet again.
it would require a total rework of several perks, items, add-ons and even Killers.
It would be hard to balance for example Trapper around a team of full voice comms. Not saying it's not possible but it requires a lot of time / work and you'd have to completly rebalance the game.
Ive heard this argument so many times now.
I ask you a simple question, DBD is a game rated 18+. How is it possible that we have more kids than games like overwatch or CSGO where the community manages to use the ingame voice comm appropiately too?And if there really is that kind of kid, then you can of course press the mute button, shouldnt be a great deal?
Trapper is one of the best examples, he used to be my favourite killer by far, but SWF completely ruined him for me and I basically play him only for dailies anymore. Since SWF is now an integral part of the game, the game must be balanced aroung voice comms.
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Yes they can do that its not that hard. Kindred is in basekit as it was going to be a thing already. As for killers they can simply buff them so that even if some killers powers like trappers can be countered by comms just make it so that it would be hard to do soMaster said:@PiiFree said:
@Master said:
@PiiFree said:
@Master said:
Unless there is a window/pallet closeby.....You have 2 options in that case:
M1 and play him like a basic M1 killer.
Just keep chasing them until you're safe to use M2.As I said, he still heavily relies on the incompetence of Survivors (which means that I think he is weak) but he is not as bad as Legion.
Indeed, against good survivors leatherface is basically a M1 killer.
Whether he is as bad as legion or even worse doesnt really matter, IMO all killers need a hefty buff to be put up to nurse lvl and survivors get ingame voice comms to balance the gameI'm not sure about ingame voice comms being a good idea. Two big problems coming with that:
annoying little kids spamming their ######### music and flamers insulting and ruining everyones fun, so you'd have to mute half the players and end up as "solo" yet again.
it would require a total rework of several perks, items, add-ons and even Killers.
It would be hard to balance for example Trapper around a team of full voice comms. Not saying it's not possible but it requires a lot of time / work and you'd have to completly rebalance the game.
Ive heard this argument so many times now.
I ask you a simple question, DBD is a game rated 18+. How is it possible that we have more kids than games like overwatch or CSGO where the community manages to use the ingame voice comm appropiately too?And if there really is that kind of kid, then you can of course press the mute button, shouldnt be a great deal?
Trapper is one of the best examples, he used to be my favourite killer by far, but SWF completely ruined him for me and I basically play him only for dailies anymore. Since SWF is now an integral part of the game, the game must be balanced aroung voice comms.
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