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Nerf SWF Genrush

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  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555
    edited January 2019

    @Myerinodudd said:
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    Myerinodudd said:


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    Vietfox said:

    Run NOED.

    It doesn't matter.Survivors always destroy all totems or when i hit with noed at the end, noed insta destroyed.I don't know about PC survivor players.They are playing so bad and mostly solo survivor not tryhard swf.On rank 1 ps4 everyone play 3+ swf and they are most tryhard survivors.

    If they broke all the totems, they did not gen rush. They did 100% of the optional objectives.

    Doing gens less then 5 minutes with destroying all totems are definetely gen rush

    It's really not. They did all they could short of searching chests and exploring the insides of lockers. At some point it becomes your responsibility to apply pressure to more than one person.

    What is genrush then ? Doing gens less then 1 minute?

    A whole team doing literally nothing but generators any time they're not being chased. Often times with repair toolboxes to speed that up further. Not healing, not breaking totems, not searching chests, not hiding, just doing generators. If they're doing generators and breaking totems and doing other things, that's just playing the game.

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  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Myerinodudd said:

    They are doing gens and totems because totems are near of the generators.So it is not called genrush because they touched totem i am sorry

    You can't say all 5 totems magically spawned near all 5 gens, 1-2 perhaps but all 5 not a chance. also if they searched chests that's most definitely not gen rush.

    If all 4 brought tool boxes and either BNP's which aren't so great anymore or all speed addons and the gens all popped before 3-3.5 minutes that's gen rush.

  • Attackfrog
    Attackfrog Member Posts: 1,134

    @jackmadrox said:

    @ForeheadSurviors said:
    Insidious on freddy hahahahahahaha might as well use overcharge also.

    Why not use overcharge? It helps.

    The missed skill check explosion wakes them up.

    The time it takes to put them back to sleep is more of a pain than them progressing the gen.

    Survivors can already wake up FAR too easily and taking overcharge gives them an even easier way.

  • MegChicken
    MegChicken Member Posts: 163
    Vietfox said:
    Myerinodudd said:
    Vietfox said:
    @jackmadrox said:

    THIS IS A GEN RUSH:

    That Freddy was pretty bad and made several mistakes.
    Wasting time going upstairs to check a gen that doesn't make any sound? Lol
    Nodding at the last survivor on the hook? He can't see him LOL.
    Maybe he is not that good but 5 gens in 4:46 minutes not fair.
    All 5 gens done in 4 minutes is not possible if killer is good. In this case sounds fair to me, he was wasting so much time and wasn't good at chases, especially considering these survivors weren't either.
    It is possible. You could be a godlike killer player, but the matches depend on the skill level of survivors and not your own. Face it, this game is too survivor favored. 
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @MegChicken said:

    It is possible. You could be a godlike killer player, but the matches depend on the skill level of survivors and not your own. Face it, this game is too survivor favored. 

    The game is too survivor favored but it's improving but that's no excuse for a killer just being bad since most of the games it's not a swat team doing it to you.

  • Tru3Lemon
    Tru3Lemon Member Posts: 1,357

    @Master said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @Myerinodudd said:
    I really hate camping because it is boring and not improve my gameplay.When i hook someone i immediately go someone.My chases not take much time.However gens still too fast.Even i have ruin (It is destroyed in 30 seconds max) they can do gens quickly.They don't have toolbox or leader.All survivors have DS,adrenaline,DH,self care.How can they do gens too fast.I am not camping and always patrolling gens.Campers deserve this but i am not and this is happening for 1 month.Gens definetely need nerf.Also don't say this to me "But gens are boring and survivors don't wanna do gens" Survivors LOVE doing gens.They genrush and teabag at the exit gate.

    they already did something about the genrush they get a debuff 10% each survivor that are on the same gen

    You dont know what genrush means apparently.....

    i do actually so dont tell me whats genrush cuz ive been playing this game since beta

  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    edited January 2019
    Tru3Lemon said:

    @Master said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @Myerinodudd said:
    I really hate camping because it is boring and not improve my gameplay.When i hook someone i immediately go someone.My chases not take much time.However gens still too fast.Even i have ruin (It is destroyed in 30 seconds max) they can do gens quickly.They don't have toolbox or leader.All survivors have DS,adrenaline,DH,self care.How can they do gens too fast.I am not camping and always patrolling gens.Campers deserve this but i am not and this is happening for 1 month.Gens definetely need nerf.Also don't say this to me "But gens are boring and survivors don't wanna do gens" Survivors LOVE doing gens.They genrush and teabag at the exit gate.

    they already did something about the genrush they get a debuff 10% each survivor that are on the same gen

    You dont know what genrush means apparently.....

    i do actually so dont tell me whats genrush cuz ive been playing this game since beta

    Working together is slower anyway so the 10% debuff with multiple survs is ######### all at best.

    Gen rush is working seperatly at all possible gens at once and fast as possible, which is problematic cause not only is that significantly faster but also way harder to stop as the Killer can only stop it so far as the map allows.
  • Broosmeister
    Broosmeister Member Posts: 281
    Myerinodudd said:
    Vietfox said:
    @jackmadrox said:

    THIS IS A GEN RUSH:

    That Freddy was pretty bad and made several mistakes.
    Wasting time going upstairs to check a gen that doesn't make any sound? Lol
    Nodding at the last survivor on the hook? He can't see him LOL.
    Maybe he is not that good but 5 gens in 4:46 minutes not fair.
    Indeed. When you chase 1 survivor who knows where every pallet is and can loop ( even if it's just a few times ) then the gens are done way too quickly. I never play on Coldwind farm, i just D/C because it's literally impossible to get more than 1 or 2 kills when everyone is gen rushing and letting people stay on the hook to finish their gens. 
  • Bongbingbing
    Bongbingbing Member Posts: 1,423

    It's just people being efficient. You can't get mad at them for doing the objectives in the game, The problem is with the game itself not the players.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,101

    @Vietfox said:
    Run NOED.

    I love the fact that most posts that you comment on first always answers the problem well

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Run NOED.

    I love the fact that most posts that you comment on first always answers the problem well

    Thank you ^^
  • KissyKissy
    KissyKissy Member Posts: 112
    edited January 2019

    @Myerinodudd said:
    ForeheadSurviors said:

    Play nurse 

    Console

    lol I play console too and Nurse is rough!

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    Whenever survivors get all the gens done it is a gen rush....

    /s

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  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @Myerinodudd said:
    Vietfox said:
    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Run NOED.

    I love the fact that most posts that you comment on first always answers the problem well

    Thank you ^^
    Running Noed against Gen rush isn't good thing.It is like i can't loop killer what should i do? Oh use instaheal and DS
    DS and instaheals are a total waste for survivors who can't loop the killer, so it's a really bad comparison. On the other hand NOED has given many kills even to potato killers.
    Noed punishes survivors who only focus on gens by increasing your speed and giving you instadowns. By the time they pop the last gen most pallets should be gone already, so should be quite easy to down them.
    If noed doesn't trigger because they cleanse the totems then they didn't genrush, so it's a win-win no matter what happens.
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  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @Myerinodudd said:
    Vietfox said:
    @Myerinodudd said:
    @Vietfox said:
    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Run NOED.

    I love the fact that most posts that you comment on first always answers the problem well

    Thank you ^^
    Running Noed against Gen rush isn't good thing.It is like i can't loop killer what should i do? Oh use instaheal and DS
    DS and instaheals are a total waste for survivors who can't loop the killer, so it's a really bad comparison. On the other hand NOED has given many kills even to potato killers.
    Noed punishes survivors who only focus on gens by increasing your speed and giving you instadowns. By the time they pop the last gen most pallets should be gone already, so should be quite easy to down them.
    If noed doesn't trigger because they cleanse the totems then they didn't genrush, so it's a win-win no matter what happens.
    You remember depip squad right? They always rush gens and prevent noed under 5 minutes.According to your said if they did 5 gen in 5 minutes this is genrush but if they  did 5 gens and 5 totems under 5 minutes this isn't genrush.You and community manager think like that
    First of all, game was quite different in that time AND many of the killers they faced were pretty bad, of course they are gonna get genrushed.
    I highly doubt you face death squads often, and if you think you do probably you should check your skills, seriously.
  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320
    edited January 2019

    @Myerinodudd said:
    You remember depip squad right? They always rush gens and prevent noed under 5 minutes.According to your said if they did 5 gen in 5 minutes this is genrush but if they  did 5 gens and 5 totems under 5 minutes this isn't genrush.You and community manager think like that

    You wouldn't balance the game based on an extreme end of the skill bar. Would you balance the game around brand new players?.... No.. So you wouldn't balance the game around very good try-hards on voice comms, geared with the sole purpose of gen rushing.

    Devs realize that, that is why the whole depip squad experiment wasn't taken too serious.

    That was done long ago too, I love how people still bring that up as a big "I got you" phrase when it comes to gen rushing.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @TheBean said:

    @Myerinodudd said:
    You remember depip squad right? They always rush gens and prevent noed under 5 minutes.According to your said if they did 5 gen in 5 minutes this is genrush but if they  did 5 gens and 5 totems under 5 minutes this isn't genrush.You and community manager think like that

    You wouldn't balance the game based on an extreme end of the skill bar. Would you balance the game around brand new players?.... No.. So you wouldn't balance the game around very good try-hards on voice comms, geared with the sole purpose of gen rushing.

    Devs realize that, that is why the whole depip squad experiment wasn't taken too serious.

    That was done long ago too, I love how people still bring that up as a big "I got you" phrase when it comes to gen rushing.

    I also pointed out that these were 4 of the top players in the world at pro caliber of play and they were facing baby killers quite often doing dailies. They'd respond with well they were facing killers of equal skill which just shows how unbalanced the game is.

    I'd respond with so they were facing killers each with 4k hours of play time who were pro's then right, I'd get crickets for a response.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Vietfox said:
    @Myerinodudd said:


    Vietfox said:


    @Myerinodudd said:


    @Vietfox said:


    @ToxicFengM1n said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Run NOED.

    I love the fact that most posts that you comment on first always answers the problem well

    Thank you ^^

    Running Noed against Gen rush isn't good thing.It is like i can't loop killer what should i do? Oh use instaheal and DS

    DS and instaheals are a total waste for survivors who can't loop the killer, so it's a really bad comparison. On the other hand NOED has given many kills even to potato killers.
    Noed punishes survivors who only focus on gens by increasing your speed and giving you instadowns. By the time they pop the last gen most pallets should be gone already, so should be quite easy to down them.
    If noed doesn't trigger because they cleanse the totems then they didn't genrush, so it's a win-win no matter what happens.

    You remember depip squad right? They always rush gens and prevent noed under 5 minutes.According to your said if they did 5 gen in 5 minutes this is genrush but if they  did 5 gens and 5 totems under 5 minutes this isn't genrush.You and community manager think like that

    First of all, game was quite different in that time AND many of the killers they faced were pretty bad, of course they are gonna get genrushed.
    I highly doubt you face death squads often, and if you think you do probably you should check your skills, seriously.

    THe game is still very much the same. Sure some loops have been reworked such that you cant loop for 5 min straight anymore, but you dont need to do that anyway when your mates actually do gens.

    The gen mechanic hasnt even been touched, its exactly the same

  • Oooooof
    Oooooof Member Posts: 109


    git gud

  • JLew
    JLew Member Posts: 160
    I am a surv main...i agree on gens being very fast to complete...even playing against seasoned good killers the first 2-3 gems are fairly easy to pop and of you spread them out right the final couple can easily be done...as a surv i still think killers always have a big advantage (except with a sweaty swf group) but i agree gens should take longer to complet and even shrinking the good skill check (not great) would help slow it down a little...i think at least a 7-10 minute game should be roughly normal...not sub 5 minutes