This game was 100% better with no DC penalty
We shouldn't have a DC penalty period, the way people play we shouldn't be required to waste our time with a killer trying to tunnel us out for 5 minutes while our teammates get 2 gens done lol same with a camping killer if you put our own fun in our hands people will start acting more respectfully to try to make the game fun for everyone.
Kind of like Apex for instance playing casual you can just leave your team if they're calling you names/slurs/being ######### etc. You go over to ranked gameplay no one really dc's just because, and ppl are kinder because if they DC they're not ranking up, and if you make your teammate dc your chances of getting rewarded lower significantly but if you stick it out you'll at least get placement points. In dbd if we stick it out we get 6-15k BP that's nothing.
In this game the only reward for staying in a ########## game is not getting a DC penalty. Killer or survivor both killer and survivors rely on each other for score, I can't play pig and get a perfect game by sitting in front of a trap box, or if im a survivor and the killer just hides all game we all get 13k bp and waste our time, same with a camping killer who gets 3 downs right off rip, survivors and killers get ######### score in comparison to if every one tried to play to the fullest.
(Killer main here)
A perfect game to me is not a 4k it is 12k hooks and as much farming as possible.
For survivor escaping to me is not a perfect game unless everyone makes it out with as fews hooks as possible.
At the same time as a survivor we need someone to be hooked to get points unhooking them. We need chased etc. If someone is hacking or the killer is way out of Mmr the killer won't have fun and will probably ######### off and want to quit.
Ultimately this is a game and NONE of us should have to waste our time playing with bad team members, toxic swf/killers/hackers or people way out of our Mmr range.
This game was also much better without no DC penalty last year face camping bubba?
Sorry guy we don't wanna play with you.
Lvl 5 new to killer without lightborn? Guess what man you don't have to vs the toxic flashlight squad!
There are so many reasons we don't need nor should we have a DC penalty.
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Nah, you should be required to "waste" your time with "a killer trying to tunnel us out for 5 minutes while our teammates get 2 gens done".
None of that is against the rules, and tunneling is explicitly supported gameplay by BHVR that this game is balanced around. Stop being selfish and trying to screw your teammates over cause you don't like how someone else plays in a perfectly acceptable manner within the rules and normal gameplay.
If you can't handle playing, then don't queue up if you're going to ruin it for the other players. Your standards of a perfect game are irrelevant. Other people are not obligated to follow your arbitrary whims.
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No thanks, bro
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"Please let me ruin others games without consequence."
Have you considered DBD isn't your type of game and you may prefer Civ 6?
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Why? What is the reasoning for having a DC penalty
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Okay but having the DC penalty allows ppl to actively ruin others games without consequences which is partly behaviors fault
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If we had 2 game modes I would agree maybe.
But right now? Nah its needed. Also we get too many DCs as it is even with penalty on
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The fact the game is grindy and you can be robbed of your items / offering / whatever without even playing the game? Not having the penalty made the game a joke, literally DCs every single match.
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I don't get dc'ing on first down, but I definitely get dc'ing on second hook when a killer is tunneling someone out entirely, less bp for them, but if a player could DC without penalty everytime they're being camped to death ppl would stop camping tunneling etc, as a killer I see almost no reason to DC other then someone hacking
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Can back you up on this
Civ 6 is a fantastic game!
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That's on behavior they need to fix that so if someone dc's currently with this system everyone keeps their items. As it should be other games do the same basic thing as a loss forgiveness to everyone but the person who dc'd
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You DCing actively ruins others' games.
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Sure but it doesn't change the fact that it was DCs literally every match.
Wrong map? DC.
Don't like the killer? DC.
Got found too fast? DC.
The wind outside blew? DC.
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Civ6 is actually great, not as good as Civ Revolution tho, the diplomacy is waaay better
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I disagree I had so many better matches as killer and survivor. It was actually really fun in comparison to campy bubba meme, or huntress who watches hook 10m away
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If your game is ruined by you not winning and having fun 100% of the time with everyone pleasing you, then you should not play PVP games. Try L4D2 Co-op mode. PVP games means sometimes you lose and not in the most fair and fun ways. Your issues seem to be toward the idea of PVP games entirely.
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No.
People are already dc ing way too much. If there were no penalty you couldn´t play anymore.
You can read here - i don´t like the killer, the map, my teammates suck... i go down first... i dc...
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Nothing is toxic except endgame chat, if you think something is toxic, maybe you're reading into it too much and you should take a break
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And a killer camping ruins 4 people's games, including their own for ######### BP. Tunneling someone out ruins 4 people's game aswell , and you're also taking into account behaviors current DC system which is ass, in other games they actually protect other team members
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I mean, co op games would probably disappoint him as well, better to just stick to single player games. I recommend something calming, like Persona.
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It's hard to be a toxic survivor without throwing the game, except in endgame chat, a killer can actively ruin people's game and many do it on purpose, hold the game hostage, smack on hook over and over yeah that's bm.
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Why because I think behavior has a terrible system in play that often results in at least 3/4 of the ppl in the game having their match ruined because someone possibly a teammate trys to ruin the game for them?
It's kinda like in cod team killing over and over has a penalty, in dbd nope fck that guy I can sandbag you all day throw pallets etc you can't do a thing but hope the killer kills me. I may even get rewarded for it
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Camping and tunneling are explicitly acknowledged and supported strategies by BHVR that this game is balanced around. Get over it.
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The problem is without the penalty people are going to DC for just every reason. I main legion. People hate legion even tho they are probably one of the weakest killers. Even with penalty people often dc the second they see me so without it I could just stop playing my most beloved character I payed good money for. And the list goes on and on the game would never the a full game cause most killer hate the map. You brought iri head as huntress game over after first down. You bring ruin undying better bet you cheeks you won't play a full game
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No this game was not. When the dc penalty was turned off during the RE release there were dc's every match.
1 generator done-dc
Hex totem gone-dc
First hook-dc
First down-dc
Certain Killer-dc
Certain perks-dc
Certain Map -dc
Without the dc penalty people would dc the moment the match wasn't going their way. A killer dc the match just ends so all that loading and preparing was a waste of time. Survivor dcs pretty much guaranteed win for the killer. When I play killer dcs take away the fun when I play survivor dcs take away the fun. Even with the dc penalty on there are sometimes multiple dcs a match. Plus nothing is stopping you from dc-ing. You can still do it. If the match is that ######### for you the button is there for a reason. But dc-ing is the worst kind of bad sportsmanship. The only good excuse for there not being a dc penalty is the hacker epidemic. Other than that there is no reason for the dc penalty to be turned off. Aside from just actually cheating it is the lowest thing you can do in this game.
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Well again that's partly behaviors fault for not balancing some killers correctly personally Legion kinda scares me, but huntress I hate vsing her because it's to easy to completely bypass loops and camp hooks.
Legion tho I find at least more fun and challenging. If it's a huntress you already know if she's one bit good it's Gg because of the way everyone plays her.
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Behavior doesn't punish it because it's literally a strategy they intend killers to use. DCing is punished because that's against the rules and you're being selfish and screwing over the game for your teammates. Grow up and be a better person.
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To prevent chuckleheads like you from sabotaging entire games.
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Again basically behaviors fault for allowing Terrible gameplay that only 1/5 of the players in match enjoy i.e. camping hooks, it's basically social conditioning, and when 1/5th of a match can ruin the game in 87 different ways for everyone else there should not be a DC penalty, and almost every reason everyone is saying someone dc's is behaviors fault. If a killer proxies all game there should be a huge blood point penalty at least like 6 hook states? Yeah 1200 bp the dude just ruined the match everyone sat on a generator or hook all game. Frickin mechanic simulator but worse
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sounds like a you problem, get over it.
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Most games don't allow Terrible game play mechanics, most games also punish doing things like team killing 🤷♂️ eventually not having a DC penalty will balance out the game to where everyone can have fun without having to waste their time
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You could try not being a selfish person that ruins the game for 4 other people.
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Whatever you just threw up via that post was in no way a coherent response to what I said.
Of course reports have no power in your example, the killer isn't breaking any rules.
The DC penalty exists because of people like you. Full stop.
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People literally DC against low-tiers killers, meme addons (speed limiter for exemple) or after loosing 2 gens quickly.
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People like you are the reason we need those - sadly.
It seems like you don´t understand what you do wrong if you dc - maybe this game is just not the right one for you.
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So you think the game was better when it practically unplayable.
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Okay, please explain how on earth Tunneling someone out ruins 4 people's games? Do you honestly think that the killer should get 1 hook on all survivors then 2 hooks on them and only then go for kills? Because if so, you're playing the wrong game.
The fact that you state that your perfect game includes maximum farming shows that you're by far the minority as well.
It looks like DbD is not the game for you.
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And this shows just how much you aren't reading the comments. Never did I mention camping and tunneling. That is just you trying to justify a DC. And no it's also not bhvr's fault. Being the first getting downed us not something BHVR has control over. Nothing I listed BHVR has control of. It doesn't matter when YOU DC. The state of the matter is that people are going to DC the moment the match isn't going their way and that's why we have the penalty.
You constantly bring up camping and tunneling. But that is the thing. You don't have to camp, you don't have to tunnel, you don't have to be a bully squad, you don't have to go clicky-clicky with a flashlight to get someone to DC. All you have to do is find them first, down them first, down them once, hook them once, go to Haddonfield, go to Midwich, do a generator, destroy their hex totem, bring ruin, bring dead hard, or play a killer they don't like facing for people to DC. The difference between these events and camping/tunneling/being a bully squad is that everything I listed is playing the game normally.
So Tl;dr: It doesn't matter how you play the game, simply playing the game is enough for people to DC. The only thing stopping people from dc-ing simply because the other side is doing their objective or people don't like something in the match (perks, killers, maps), is the dc penalty.
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No. No it was not. If it was, it would never have been introduced.
DC's are far too common as is. Do you really want to quintuple that amount?
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DC Penalty makes the game worse for those who actually want to play. If it gets disabled, people are just going to DC when: 1. They face a killer they don't like, 2. They don't like the map, 3. The killer plays in a way the survivor dislikes, 4. The Survivor plays in a way the killer dislikes, 5. Downed too early, 6. First hook too late, 7. Something mildly inconvenient happens.
No thanks. This has been my experience every time the DC penalty has been disabled, and it ruins the game for both sides. Optionally, if you're going against a cheater, there should be an option to "DC and Report", which won't give you the penalty, but if you use the system to fill out frivolous reports you yourself get banned.
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"My game is ruined because the opponent tried to win" Yeah I reiterate PVP games may not be your bag
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