Internet speed requirements for killers.

If you play on wifi, maybe you could try out a cable instead, since even minimal loss of connection can cause freezes when it comes to peer to peer connections.

Other than that, maybe you're just playing with people that are pretty far away, tho I doubt it.
Are the pings of your survivors normal in the lobby ?

Would lag-switching even be a thing if we had dedicated servers?

@franticpig29 said:
Okay so about every game of killer I play at the end people keep complaining that I'm lag switching. I have 24mbps down and 1mbps up. I have ADSL2 internet. Is this good enough to play as killer without having others lagging? When I play survivor I have no problems what so ever unless the killers ping is over 150.

1Mb is enough, but there would not be any leeway. As killer, you are sending telemetry to the other 4 players at a constant rate, as well as receiving telemetry from them. If anyone else on your Internet is using it, then your upload stream will be overtaxed, which has the exact same effect as lagg switching. This is detected in all of the clients, including yours, and sent to Behavior for later analysis. If it happens to many times, you will get a soft ban, or a warning at the very least.

Im a killer main and I hate when I lag. İt causes the survivor's game be laggy and end of the game, I %99 get called lagswitcher

Survivors just complain about everything, even if the killer has bad internet.
one time i got a Comment on my profile that said "-rep [swear] [swear] ping, has the worst internet, can only get kills from the advantage of his [swear]ternet" and my internet is not the best but so you have to tell the killer that they have bad internet.

Green ping in lobby is one thing, but in game is another story with a bad connection. Ping indicators on PC show this a lot.

If I had 1mb upload or less then I wouldn't play killer unless doing a daily.

I play Killer on a wi-fi connection without issues. I just know that when it's storming outside, I swap over to Survivor just in case. That tends to be the only time I experience any real issues with my net. Unless it's something my ISP does, upgrades or whatever, my connection is extremely stable and the only lag problems I see are the Survivors who ready up with 200+ ping. If they're willing to play with that, especially with the ping indicator, so be it. I'll be more than happy to hook their teleporting butt.

Currently getting FPS hits on Macmillan, but apparently that's a known issue so not sure when that'll be fixed. It doesn't happen all the time though, only sometimes. I tend to play relaxed in those games though, because it's something noone has control over.

Stability is more important than speed. That said, every online game should have Internet requirements for all players (not just one side). It's as necessary as any piece of hardware.
P2P means you are connected to the Killer and vice-versa. Connections are not just one way.

Are you living with someone? if someone in your house was watching youtube or downloading stuff, people will think you lag switch in game

there are too many idiots that stay in the lobby when they had over 200 ping

@Tsulan said:
I have a 6mb connection. Pings are between 70 and 150 normally. Sometimes i get red pings from people from the other end of the world. Not my problem, when they click ready when they have a 500+ ping.

I rarely get complaints about my connection. DbD is very forgiving when it´s about the internet speed. A ping of 200 can still play almost normal. I don´t know any other game that allows this.

You can play quite normally at 200 ping as long as it's steady. That's generally my limit for ping, and as long as it hovers from 198-202, I'm good with it. It's the ping that bounces like crazy, even after letting it settle down for load-in, that I'll generally dodge if it's over 170. I haven't played anything past 205, but I'm tempted to see what a steady ping around 250 is like.

An issue you might wanna think about is packet drops, using a dos command box you can ping to see if there is any packet loss which will show you a decent ping but still get random lag spikes. I noticed it one day when my isp said i had 40ms ping but survivors were runing into walls and missing gens left and right. Investigating showed that yep... i was having 25% packet drop consistently.

Brady said:

Would lag-switching even be a thing if we had dedicated servers?

@franticpig29 said:
Okay so about every game of killer I play at the end people keep complaining that I'm lag switching. I have 24mbps down and 1mbps up. I have ADSL2 internet. Is this good enough to play as killer without having others lagging? When I play survivor I have no problems what so ever unless the killers ping is over 150.

For now, I feel like you shouldn't play killer. Of course, you purchased the game and you're allowed to do whatever you want but that internet speed messes up the game for other people. Soon it won't matter though, they're planning to release dedicated servers this year and your internet speed won't matter.

@Slyther83 nice necro. Very impressive that you woke up a 5 month old thread with inaccurate information. Well done!

FYI, dedicated servers will not do anything that you stated, and will in fact increase the overall latency for EVERYONE! Those with significant latency issues will be at a disadvantage, as their latency will most likely mean that the game will be unplayable for them. It will not end hitting through pallets, or windows, and I have no idea why you would even think that it would. BHVR themselves spefically stated that in a previous live dev stream.

@Kaelum said:
@Slyther83 nice necro. Very impressive that you woke up a 5 month old thread with inaccurate information. Well done!

FYI, dedicated servers will not do anything that you stated, and will in fact increase the overall latency for EVERYONE! Those with significant latency issues will be at a disadvantage, as their latency will most likely mean that the game will be unplayable for them. It will not end hitting through pallets, or windows, and I have no idea why you would even think that it would. BHVR themselves spefically stated that in a previous live dev stream.

Here's the thing- I actually work in the industry. Dedicated servers will provide better latency for all players averaged out- people will ping 50-75 across the board, during the game (not fakenews lobby latency), rather than the killer pinging zero and survivors at the mercy of thei killer's personal connection and rig (current status). I appreciate your trying to make a counterpoint, but what you said about increasing the overall latency is 100% false. If people have a poor connection, then it will affect only them (also, it's THEIR problem) not the other players who have a stable connection. I genuinely don't care what quotes you have about BHVR- whether or not you're quoting them directly or not. I manage a 55,000 sq ft. datacenter and provide infrastructure as a service for enterprise customers exponentially larger than BHVR. I know what I'm talking about- and this isn't even a complicated/debatable topic.

@Slyther83 said:
Here's the thing- I actually work in the industry. Dedicated servers will provide better latency for all players averaged out- people will ping 50-75 across the board, during the game (not fakenews lobby latency), rather than the killer pinging zero and survivors at the mercy of thei killer's personal connection and rig (current status). I appreciate your trying to make a counterpoint, but what you said about increasing the overall latency is 100% false. If people have a poor connection, then it will affect only them (also, it's THEIR problem) not the other players who have a stable connection. I genuinely don't care what quotes you have about BHVR- whether or not you're quoting them directly or not. I manage a 55,000 sq ft. datacenter and provide infrastructure as a service for enterprise customers exponentially larger than BHVR. I know what I'm talking about- and this isn't even a complicated/debatable topic.

This is not a data center issue, it is a physical location issue, and I am 100% correct. The P2P latency we currently have is much lower than the client-server-client latency that we will experience once the switch to dedicated servers is made. It’s simple math, instead of a single line between survivor and killer, we have 2 lines. This is why BHVR said the EXACT same thing, this WILL NOT reduce the overall latency, it will be at the very least, slightly worse. I’ve been writing software for over 40 years, 99% of that software communicates over long distances, and globally. I think I know what I’m talking about, and not just blowing numbers out of my ass.

@Master said:
It will be worse for killer, but better for survivors

It will be worse for everyone, no one will get better, but your overall experience might. If everyone has a great connection, the overall latency will still increase, and the overall experience will be somewhat worse than it is now, by a few milliseconds. If all the survivors have great connections, and the killer has a poor connection, the survivor experience will be similar to the previous great experience, but the killer’s experience will be significantly degraded.

How will the experiences degrade? That all depends upon how BHVR codes the conflicts (conflicting actions coming in asynchronously). I would guess that they start with the current KYF situation, where the observer is the host (dedicated server), and go from there. Currently, the survivor is at the mercy of the host (dedicated server), and so is the killer when playing SWF. If you’ve ever played SWF as killer, and you are not the host, you know how broken then current system is, so I doubt that they’d leave it at that.