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Killers You Just *Can't* Play?

StarLost
StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

What are they?

I know when I did my little challenge that required me to play all the killers, two stood out as 'okay, let's get this over with'.

Billy: Ugh. Just...ugh. Not my style, feels like trying to steer a cow on an ice-rink.

Huntress: I'm just not good at ranged killers.

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  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 8,025

    Nurse. I find her immensely unfun to play, I haven't even put any points into her on my Steam copy of the game.

    (I did try her on the game pass/xbox store version I had access to first, though.)

  • Kurri
    Kurri Member Posts: 1,599

    Oni, or Billy.

    For some reason going at top speeds with Blight and hitting survivors is fine, but when I ready with Billy and Oni - Oh you can't figure out how to do that end of sprint flick.

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,894

    I’m on the same boat with Billy.

  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 14,853

    Oni and Huntress I literally get nothing done. Got the adepts as pure M1 and pretty much ‚farmed‘ for the other achievements (though I guess I got a few hits legitimately as I didn’t outright farm)

    Billy and Blight I am not good with at all, but I can somehow manage a little bit. Same with Trickster but not that bad.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Oni...yeah. He's another one.

    Nurse can be fun, but A. she's a little one dimensional, B. I see her way too much which sort of puts me off (ditto Blight) and C. people straight up DC the second they hear her.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813

    Well I'm on ps4 so any killer that requires precision is out the window.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813

    But, killers I have zero interest in touching: Huntress, Nurse, Blight, Oni, Billy, Hag, Twins.

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904

    Artist, I really want to like her but I just find her clunky to use

    Billy, for a lot of the same reasons already given here,

    Pyramid head, again just can't make it work

    Trickster just because ugh.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Hag is a very idiosyncratic killer. She's really good, but requires a totally different way of looking at the game. Some people just despise her, but she's probably my favorite killer and once they fix the current bug with her traps, I'll be back to having a ton of fun on her.

    Trickster...is just not a fun killer to play or play against.

    Pyramid Head is a great killer with two serious issues: his addons are awful and his cages don't interact with hook perks, meaning no BBQ, meaning that I am less likely to play him.

    Maybe once they fix the grind.

    Artist is a fantastic killer. She feels clunky at first but once you get a feel for her, she's a ton of fun and can do stuff no other killer is capable of. My all time favorite moment is hooking someone, spotting two people healing with BBQ, birding them both with her purple addon and then predicting them and downing them both with a perfectly placed volley from across the map.

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904

    Oh yeah where artist is concerned its 100% me, I just haven't got it yet haven't tried much either.

    I was never a big fan of silent hill anyway and the cages aren't really that great of a mechanic so again lack the motivation to try.

    Yeah trickster is just all kinds of ugh from aesthetic to playstyle, I'm really not a fan.

    Cow on an ice rink is the best description of billy I've heard yet.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813

    I think Hag is one of the strongest killers in the game and people underrate her. But I personally don't enjoy her play style

  • Heartbound
    Heartbound Member Posts: 3,255

    I can't play Spirit. A lot of her power is based on audio and I'm severely deaf. Now don't get me wrong, I can and will follow your scratchmarks and I can hear you vault over a pallet. If you're just running forward or being predictable I can down you out of phase using game sense BUT...

    You people with "normal hearing" are beyond my understanding. If there's no grass moving beneath the survivor or no scratchmarks then I lose every phase chase by default.

  • Alice_pbg
    Alice_pbg Member Posts: 6,556

    spirit. just doesn't work. she makes no sense to me.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
    edited March 2022

    Strongest...eh. Maybe 2 years ago.

    Now, once you get out of the 'you can play as an M1 killer and still 2-3k' MMR doldrums, people know how to handle her - they'll disarm your attacks or trigger them at range and force you into bad chases. CoH was another huge secondary nerf to Hag, due to her being an attrition killer.

    She's solidly 'A' tier now, I'd say. Mid 'A' tier, just behind Artist, Plague and Huntress.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    The killer abilities I'm probably worst at are:

    • Nurse - I'm extremely bad with Nurse mainly because I can't stand playing a character that stares at the ground half the match. If I actually had to play Nurse at this point I'm positive I would completely suck.
    • Oni - I just never got the hang of his dash attack. I have a little better luck getting close and doing a standard lunge type attack while powered up, which is still an instant down, but god forbid I actually want to hit someone while dashing, I miss constantly.
    • Hillbilly - Hillbilly has always felt really clunky to me. Hitting with his chainsaw is such a pain in the butt, but his daily missions require you to do it so it always takes me two or three games to get that one done. It's just so much easier to hit people with Bubba's chainsaw.
    • Hag - I don't play Hag enough to have the timing down on getting instant hits with her teleport attack. That's not to say I do all that badly with her, I usually end up getting a hit quickly after teleporting simply because I'm so close. But I just never get that insta-hit that good Hag players can get.
    • Huntress, Deathslinger, Plague, Trickster - These all fall in the same category: my aim sucks, especially at long range. I just don't play these characters enough to really practice having good aim with them. (Interestingly I can hit with Pinhead's chain usually because I can steer that one.)
    • Artist - Still don't quite have the timing on hitting with her crows against competent survivors at loops (the ones who know to juke before you fire them). Again, it's totally a matter of me not playing her enough.


    The killers I have the least trouble with are the ones with relatively straightforward melee attacks (e.g. Doctor, Sadako, Freddy, Clown, etc.) They all play kind of in a similar way in a loop and need the same mechanical skill to get a hit up close so even though I don't play any of them individually a ton just being good at basic attack killer chases helps with all of them.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    The trick with Hag, if you're not just going to spam teleport constantly, is to drive people into your 'zone' (usually the central structure) and anticipate the teleport. The big annoyance with her is that she has a very long setup time initially, and if you're against a PTS comp, you can lose multiple gens before you see anyone.

    Artist - don't put birds over pallets, instead put them laterally along the sides of loops. You'll force people to leave them or eat a bird. For followups, you want to use a single bird to swarm and then fire a volley of 3. If they're juking, they usually aren't moving away from you, and you can then catch up. She's so damn strong once you get her tempo down.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Yeah, I get the strategy with Hag, it's the physical timing. (And no, I'm not going to bother changing her ability to my mouse wheel just for this.)

    Same with Artist. I know the strategy, my timing is just bad at the execution.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    That has absolutely not been my experience playing her.

    Sure, smart people will try to 'defuse' your traps, so you site them in places where they either won't see it or where they can't trigger it.

    If they do this, chances are that I'm still close enough to bop them after a short chase, or they'll run into another trap. Then I stick one on the approach to the hook (if I'm feeling that it's going to be a tough match) and begin the snowball.

    The only times I really struggle on Hag is if I get sent to Eyrie, Ormond, Mother's Dwelling or other gigantic maps. Hag on any indoor map is a force of nature, even RPD.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,813

    I'd consider A and S tier to be the strongest killers.

  • MonsterInMyMind
    MonsterInMyMind Member Posts: 2,744

    Spirit something about her just makes me feel dirty when I play her I almost feel bad.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Eh, semantics.

    I see 'S' as 'strongest', 'A' as 'where all killers should be', 'B' as 'close to perfect, but not quite' and everything else as 'needs a buff'.

  • PeaceNGrease
    PeaceNGrease Member Posts: 673

    As a console player, I definitely never even try to touch Trickster anymore.

    Mind you, I enjoy Blight and play him quite often, and I actually love nurse, though I don't play her consistently enough to be great with her. But I've pulled off downs from the outside of a house to the middle of the staircase with her. I can use a controller very well, but I cannot for the life of me get any value out of him.

    I also don't love playing plague, although she's really meta right now and I can win with her. I just get inconsistent results, it feels like I never get my pools in a place worth taking the time to go to.

    And yeah, haven't touched Hillbilly since his changes. One of the only killers I P3'D because I cared about him so much, he was my first main back when I started playing in 2017. I just can't stand him now.


    Other than that, I pretty much enjoy everyone

  • N8dog
    N8dog Member Posts: 541

    Myers, worst killer...undeniable

  • RaSavage42
    RaSavage42 Member Posts: 5,572

    I can play them all

    But the ones I don't play are: Freddie and Bubba

    I'm pretty good (still learning) at Killer

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Weird. I tend to be pretty good on Myers and unless it's an absolute horror-show of a map like Badham, Eyrie or Swamp, I can usually do better than if I played Pig, Clown etc. And that's before you factor in his nuttier addons - Tuft and Piece in particular.

  • N8dog
    N8dog Member Posts: 541

    slow start and a power that not only does nothing about strong loops but is the only one that can run out... I just don't want to be bullied from having a god awful power

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919
    edited March 2022

    Billy, Blight, Nurse, Pinhead, and Trickster.

    If I put time and effort into Nurse and Pinhead I know I can play them but I just don’t have the willpower to do so :/

    I’m on console so the recoil and constant spamming of the power button for Trickster is what makes me not wanna play him. If I wanna play a ranged killer it feels as though Huntress is much easier.

    I just can’t play Billy or Blight and their playstyle is just not my cup of tea.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    I'd say that Cenobite is worth learning, because he's pretty rare and a lot of fun to play once you get a feel for him. His sound design alone is worth the effort. Aim the chain spawner directly at their feet and you'll generally land it.

    Nurse...if you want to 3k groups that you'd probably get 1k against usually - learn her. Otherwise, I get tired of her fast. And I wouldn't play her on console.

  • PigMainBigBrain
    PigMainBigBrain Member Posts: 1,893

    Nurse. And I'm proud to say I suck at nurse because at least this game has a character with an actual skill ceiling that involves skill. And only rewards you for having skill. Now if only all killer were high skill ceiling high reward I'd never complain about a single match in this game.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    Hag and trapper I'm not particularly fond of trap characters in games so I tend to suck at both

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Nurse, Artist, Demogorgon, Hag, Huntress, Cenobite and Pyramid Head are examples of very well designed killers with a nearly infinite skill cap. Cenobite is a near miss, but close enough.

  • bm33
    bm33 Member Posts: 8,274

    Wraith - I don't know what it is but when I play him when he is cloaked and zipping around it kinda gives me motion sickness. Don't really have that issue with any other killer. Because of the motion sickness feeling doing the "uncloak and hit survivors" challenges are pretty miserable since have to be cloaked to do them. Usually have to find some that are up for farming that.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Weirdly, I don't have this issue on Wraith. I guess it's because his camera is so high.

    Twins (when I deploy Victor) and Onryo (somewhat) definitely do.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    Pinhead I could definitely give a shot at trying.

    I am on console but I’ve seen good console Nurse players and I really don’t think it would be as hard as people think to play her on console. Just sinking in many hours playing her seems so tedious and not to mention that once you are good with her there is just no competition. You just….win. No fear of anything. It seems so boring.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,985
    edited March 2022

    Huntress. I've had the game since launch on console (recently switched to PC) and she is still only level 3, I think? I hate her. 😅

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
    edited March 2022

    She's not quite as bonkers as people make her out to be - the issue is that some of her addons are straight busted on top of a very strong kit (Blight has the same issue).

    Nurse isn't a killer you 2k on. You either 4k or 0k, as above a certain MMR every survivor has played against a dozen nurses better than you are. She's...streaky.

    Watch Otz's Nurse streak if you want to see what I mean. He had an easier time with Doctor.

    The major reason I don't play much Nurse is that her mechanics don't translate well to other killers, and after a few days on Nurse I'll find that I'm much worse on anyone that isn't Nurse.

    Pinhead is definitely worth a try. He's hard to play and not the most powerful killer in the game, but he's fun. Landing a god-tier chain is an amazing feeling (my absolute finest moment was curving a chain through shack door, out shack window and interrupting a survivor solving the cube outside).

    I'm just not good on ranged killers, with Nemmy being the exception. She is also overplayed, which turns me off.

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    Let me change what I said…

    If you are good with Nurse you plain out just win if you have her busted range add-ons (especially now because she’s bugged). Same goes with Blight and Spirit’s busted add-ons.

    Nurse players who are really good win 95% of their matches with no fear of losing and that’s what turns me off about Nurse. I like playing DBD and Nurse plays her own game.

    And hasn’t Otz said that he wasn’t the greatest with Nurse? He’s a very good killer don’t get me wrong, but he never claimed to be great with Nurse.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    95%?

    I...sort of doubt that, unless they are running those addons *every game*.

    Yes, Otz isn't the best Nurse player in the world. But he's still better than the vast, vast majority of Nurses in the game.

    But yes, I find Nurse very tedious, despite her power. She's a one trick pony with a suitcase nuke.

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611

    Billy, Twins, Nurse.

  • ThatOneDemoPlayer
    ThatOneDemoPlayer Member Posts: 5,623
    edited March 2022

    Freddy


    Why should I play him when he's Demogorgon but worse in every regard?

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    Deathslinger.

    I used to really enjoy him, even though his map pressure was ass and he often didn't win the match even when you were doing well. He was like my 3rd most played killer for a time.

    Since the nerfs, not only is he worse across the board, but all the timings for his shots just feel so wrong. I can't bring myself to unlearn shots that feel like they should hit, when I get his dailies it's just depressing.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,766

    Wraith, unless I have Windstorm/uncloak speed.

    Nurse, because she's too hard to control on console.

    Myers, unless I have infinite tier 3/Tombstone Piece + a stalking rate add-on.

    Doctor, unless I have a decreased shock delay add-on.

    Huntress, because she's too hard to control on console.

    Leatherface, because I bump into everything.

    Freddy, because he's trash.

    Pig, unless I have ambush attack add-ons.

    Clown, unless I have Pinky Finger, Cigar Box, Flask of Bleach, and/or Fingerless Parade Gloves.

    Spirit, unless I have Mother-Daughter Ring/Cherry Blossom.

    Demogorgon, unless I have shred add-ons.

    Oni, because he's too hard to control on console.

    Deathslinger, because I can't quickscope with him.

    Trickster, because he's too hard to control on console.

    Pinhead, unless I have Engineer's Fang, the other pink add-on, and/or the add-on that spawns extra chains.

    Sadako, because she's trash.

    So you see, my options are limited. I have very high standards for killers. They need to be able to beat any team. I'll try to work with them for a while, but if I'm not seeing any improvement, I'll most likely drop them. Some killers I stopped playing because of unjust nerfs (what killer nerf isn't unjust?), and some I stopped playing because I was no good with them, mostly because I'm on console and their powers require precision only a mouse can give.

  • solidhex
    solidhex Member Posts: 892

    From all the killers i've tried i disliked Billy the most, the chainsaw handling is just so unnatural and clunky. I also dislike Huntress, it feels sluggy, Deathslinger feels more natural to me even though he is also a bit sluggy since the nerf



    Don't know about the 95% but a really good Nurse will win most of her matches even in high MMR. There is not much counterplay to a GOOD nurse, because the usual tricks don't work when the first blink was already good.

  • yobuddd
    yobuddd Member Posts: 2,259

    i play on PS4, so any killer that requires precise aim is a no-go for me. Yes, it’s possible to be good with them, but this would take for more practice time than I’m willing to invest.

    The worst offenders for me are:

    • - Blight
    • - Pinhead

    Other headaches worth mentioning include:

    • - Nurse
    • - Artist
    • - Huntress
    • - Trickster
    • - Pyramid Head

    A couple originals, and then pretty much every new killer except Onryo…..

  • psionic
    psionic Member Posts: 670

    I can't play Billy, definitely. I don't even dare to do the archive challenges that involve him.

  • Dilif69
    Dilif69 Member Posts: 148

    plague i just cant play her it takes soo long to get someone broken + the pools are like 20 km away