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Stop Bullying The Low Tier Killers .
Seriously people complain about going up against blight and nurse and sometimes huntress with crazy addons and what not, but when someone decides to play a low tier killer most survivors bm the heck out of them. I see as survivor and I almost wanna leave the person right on the hook after they get caught. People really don't get that M1 killers are obsolete. Stop Bullying the Low tiers people its not a good look.
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I've said that on here plenty of times.
People whine that the only killers they see are the high powered high mobility killers but when I play as a basic m1 killer, I pretty routinely get made into a punching bag.
Granted it's not all the time but if your choice is risk humiliation being a survivor chew toy or always being able to have a fighting chance no matter your opponents, it's not shocking people stop playing bad killers that can't keep up with good survivors.
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Not until people stop tunnelling and camping while playing them (Seriously I wish both sides could just try to be more fair)
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And I don't care what perks they're using, even NOED, or what their playstyle is. That doesn't change that you're being toxic to a low tier killer, this forcing them to switch to higher tier killers so they won't get bullied anymore. How people don't realize this, I'll never know. "Nurse OP. Blight OP. Tired of seeing those boring killers." But let's tbag Clown and Legion, right?
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well, here's a Ghostface sitting in an area where ppl can't unhook this Cheryl so.. Yeah that's not happening soon.
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So you can do gens fast but killers aren't allowed to get kills fast? where is the logic? I'm not sure this was what happened in your game but survivors are legit bming right at the start. I get the camping is annoying but looks like you had a team mate there to help which the save it possible.
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That's EXACTLY what I mean. When I play survivor there is no need to be cocky to a killer that ALREADY has the odds stacked against them, in fact I just play the game. No teabags not taunting no none of that. Yea I get its a game but we know you're taunting because you know there is abs nothing m1s can do about it.
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You are right.
Just played Demo for the daily. Red Team was clearly better than me.
Even if i know this it still is super frustrating when they play around you while you can´t get them. Yesterday everybody went from pallet to pallet to pallet with little tbags and clicks - yes, it was on the Game - so a lot of them.
That are these annoying teams which really make you hate playing killer.
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problem is in that example hes abusing a bug where the survivors cant get the prompt to unhook.
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Absolutely my risk for choosing that killer. But all I am saying is survivors that have game knowledge KNOW that the killer has no chance and they legit taunt the crap out of the killer. No matter when/where you find them being a simple m1 basic attack killer is detrimental in itself. Land a hit and they are gone off to the next safe tile which is followed but 4 filler pallets that happened to spawn all right next to each other and the others are slamming gens with BNPS and Prove Thyself its just boring. That when I pull out Blight and get the DCs just for being Blight. If survivors don't want to have to put up with this crap they should stop being big ole jerks when a killer is trying to play a killer who isn't S tier. Again survivors are free to doe what ever they please they bought the game, but can't complain about a blight if you are tea bagging and pointing at the Pig.
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The funniest thing is when you let people go as m1 and show mercy and some of them bm you like they escaped on their own lmao.
But I know not everyone is like that so I show plenty of mercy anyway regardless of the killer I play, and it works by not plunging my mmr into sky too so I can have chill games more often than bully squads.
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Dead by Daylight kind of feels like middle school. They all laugh at one kid, till that kid shows up with a shovel. Then it's "Waah Tommy hit me with a shovel" and Shovels get banned from recess.
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All killers are viable to a point. The only ones that truly have deep viability issues to me are Trapper and Myers.
It's a bit of a chicken and egg scenario when people complain that they see the higher tier killers all the time. A dedicated and skilled killer player is probably more likely to select a higher tier killer in the first place. I 4k more often than not on Clown, but it's a whole lot easier on someone like Nurse or Spirit. Especially in the case of the M1 killers, they pretty much all play the same, so there's no reason to even select a low tier one if you're playing to win a game.
So yeah, I'm sure taking losses on low tier killers is one component for lower pick rates at certain MMR ranges, but it goes beyond that. Freddy and Clown are literally the same concept with their anti-loop placement. Nemesis, Demo, PH, and the Artist all play the same with slight variations in how the power works. Heck, we can even throw Blight and Billy into the conversation. Blight is easier, stronger, and less frustrating than Billy by a mile. Why on earth would I subject myself to three rounds of Billy frustration when I can just play Blight?
I get why BHVR has homogenized the roster, but you get less variety in killer picks when you do that. When a ton of killers more or less play the same or overlap conceptually, people are just going to pick the strongest one.
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My heart really grows when bully teams lose.
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No, I mean the prompt to save was not coming up, it was physically impossible to save.
Ghosty was in the way of any path to save
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It's a cycle, a new killer gets bullied till he improves and then he takes revenge by tunneling camping and playing in a ######### way because survivors were mean to him and the cycle keeps repeating.
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Some survivors act like they're a god when they know they have the advantage, but their ego jumps out the window once they see the killer is their match.
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When you resort to whataboutism, you concede the argument.
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Why? so they can get 1-3 hooks total before the game ends?
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So you want people playing low tier killers, with the odds already against them, to just play fair and not use every opportunity they get to get an upper hand against a team that most likely is running meta perks and will choose to show no mercy regardless of if they played fair or not?
That's some Sluzzy logic.
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ehh? No I agree ppl shouldn’t bully low tier killers.
when did I say I didn’t.
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I'm not sure what else you could be implying here than 'well, killers bring it on themselves because there are a handful of killers who can also be pretty septic'.
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No I’m just saying what Phasma wants likely won’t happen.
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Ah, my bad. I misunderstood.
This is me on cold meds.
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I agree with this and the reverse is true too.
I don't use Dead Hard, Decisive, Unbreakable, etc and I am routinely punished for it and taunted when I am killed. Had a killer msg me to say get good after they got a 4k and I was the only survivor not running any of those perks. Like why?
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Nice probzz skin.
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who?
now i gotta look up who that is, I just kinda completely stole the skin from a friend of mine when he quit.
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Lol I get worst treatment playing Trapper and Hag in high mmr but you don't see me complain. I do tunnel and camp but i think it's just fair since its a no holds barred.
No one's gonna hold your hand in High MMR.
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Probzz. Almost same skin. Super chill dude it seems although a bit weird on twitch. But his YouTube, is how i got really good at looping as a Surv. I'd say he is about top 1% Surv side. Worth checking out. Teach even veterans a thing or two.
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Played Sadako for the first time, the day after her release. Got some sweaty bully squads in a row and barely 4 hooks.
Tbh, it doesn't surprise me, that I haven't faced her in over a week.
Just Nurse, Blight Spirit and the occasional Bubba.
I guess that's what some people want.
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Ooh, thanks for the reccomendation :)
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Anytime :)
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That’s why I said I wish both sides played fair. Problem is if survivors decide to play nice chances are the killer will take the opportunity to play like a douche and vice versa. It’s a terrible cycle I wish we could stop
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usually i've a golden rule for those issues... don't be a prick and i won't be a prick toward you... bring something that i don't like at all (dead hard+boons, map offerings, white wards, toolboxes and flashlights to deny my deserved hooks, hook offerings or jar of luck. Usually those things are used in combination together by swf teams) or be generally toxic and you'll get what you asked for.
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I get maybe map offerings but Dead hard and perk choices aren't legitimate reasons to be a bully imo It isn't like the survivor who has or uses it knows who they are going against. Again map offerings like Ormond Farm Game any survivor friendly map for that matter opens it up for fair game.
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So...is it BM if I loop you for 5 minutes just playing regularly? No tbagging or anything? Cause I feel like people would qualify playing the game as "bullying"
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Stop bullying Killers in general. Unless they tunnel, camp or use NOED, I never 'bully' killers because then we're just all out here creating villains' origin stories otherwise...
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So you bully killers because they want to kill you or your teammates ?
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How do you stop "bullying" low tier killers when they think every action a survivor does is bullying?
Like, do you want them to play poorly so you're more likely to win chases?
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All those threads trying to point at the other side is toxic or unfair.
Guys, stop to fight against ppl playing the same game as you are. We are all on the same boat. Point at the devs' not adressing the game's issues.
Everything you are experiencing today is their fault and only their fault.
The game was not like this 2 years ago. Now just check what they have added to the game to make it as we know it today.
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Bullying was definitely the wrong word choice there from me. I just crouch spam at the exit gate if they face camped me all game, showing them that their tactic that leaches ALL the fun out of the game for me didn't work in the end. I've never clicked a torch over and over again or anything like that.
We all know that there's kind of an unspoken rule that this is just a really boring tactic and makes the game fun for no one.
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Yep. This stuff happens on both sides.
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I always treat my enemys like they treat me.
If they tbag and flashlight click every possible time, i will tunnel or may even camp them but if they play nice and fair i will gladly walk across the map instantly i hooked someone and will also give them the hatch.
If i see antimates and they do nothing to help the team, i will slug them for 3 minuten and 59 seconds and then hook them and farm with everyone else.
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Bullies. Even weirdo wannabe online bullies, bully who they CAN bully. I mean, I wish people irl would stop bullying the weak and innocent and step up to me, but it just doesn't work that way. They are afraid of the people who desire them and feed off the people who fear them. That's just the way it is.
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