Is Huntress Getting Progressively Worse?

tehshadowman33
tehshadowman33 Member Posts: 939
edited January 2019 in General Discussions

From my subjective place, it seems like Huntress is getting worse with each major patch release. Any Huntress Mains still out there?

Survivors have more options now that are better vs. slow killers without tracking abilities with such perks like Deliverance, Breakdown, and Distortion.

Huntress seems to have limited perk diversity?

She's slow. She's loud. She has no tracking ability. Her hatchet hitboxes are janked; last game, my hatchets hit invisible walls on the hedge that overlooks the escape gate on Haddonfield... Like you cannot throw hatchets over the hedge unless you aim so far up it'll hit the top of the gate... LOL.

Is it time for a minor buff for Huntress that makes her a little less frustrating to play? Iridescent head is pure 100% cheese, yes I know.

How about lessening the animation penalty on cancelling a throw, or over the span of 10 seconds, removing the movement penalty while charging a hatchet throw while remaining in a chase?
NOTE: if Survivor breaks chase, because of the 5-second rule, you would only get half of the movement penalty removed before chase ended. Though, you would need to nerf the Shiny Pin addon. Either give Shiny Pin a cooldown penalty between throwing hatchets and/or increasing the hatchet wind-up time charge speed.

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  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    Not from what I've seen. Huntress is still very much a top tier killer.

    One observation of mine hasn't changed tho. Most people can't play Huntress at an optimal level.

  • GraviteaUK
    GraviteaUK Member Posts: 464
    edited January 2019

    She was the first killer i played and enjoyed, now i will only play her with 1 shot hatchets.

    She's just too frustrating to play as.

    If you get a big map she is too slow to apply pressure, if you get a farm map they are too big and again she's too slow to apply pressure especially at T walls because they are see through so no mind games and she's too slow and easily looped.

    Then of course you have the endless amounts of objects with hotboxes twice the size of the actual object.

    I play pretty much all of the killers but the huntress is by far the most frustrating, Yes i even have a Freddy build i came up with that i find more fun.

    Im still not sure why the huntress slows down with hatchets and The Clown does not.

    The slow on clown all but ensures the hit and has a bigger radius and area denial and can still one shot with an addon except he has more to throw and ofc 115 speed to begin with and no need to go running for lockers for a reload.

  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372

    Huntress is still viable, she is not really effected in a bad or good way from the past few patches. The issues you have pointed out have always been present.

  • DexyIV
    DexyIV Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 515

    Nah, she doesn't need a buff. No nerfs either no matter what people say. She's probably the most balanced killer out there. The only problem she has is the obscene latency of some players making it so she can hit survivors around corners, but that will hopefully be improved with dedicated servers.

    As people have previously said, not many know how to play her to her full potential.

  • tehshadowman33
    tehshadowman33 Member Posts: 939

    Are my suggested buffs too extreme?

  • GraviteaUK
    GraviteaUK Member Posts: 464
    edited January 2019

    @DexyIV said:
    Nah, she doesn't need a buff. No nerfs either no matter what people say. She's probably the most balanced killer out there. The only problem she has is the obscene latency of some players making it so she can hit survivors around corners, but that will hopefully be improved with dedicated servers.

    As people have previously said, not many know how to play her to her full potential.

    Hardly say she's balanced she's mid tier at best and with the exception of The Nurse the rest of the killers above her are arguably balanced.

    From personal experience playing as and against her she's probably the one of the easiest killers to loop in the game not to mention that lullaby makes her laughably easy to avoid and on some maps she's completely destroyed by the map.

    In terms of difficulty to play against i would put her pretty far down and im higher as survivor than killer.

    1. Nurse
    2. Billy
    3. Spirit
    4. Hag or Clown
    5. Myers or Huntress
  • DexyIV
    DexyIV Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 515
    edited January 2019

    @GraviteaUK said:

    @DexyIV said:
    Nah, she doesn't need a buff. No nerfs either no matter what people say. She's probably the most balanced killer out there. The only problem she has is the obscene latency of some players making it so she can hit survivors around corners, but that will hopefully be improved with dedicated servers.

    As people have previously said, not many know how to play her to her full potential.

    Hardly say she's balanced she's mid tier at best and with the exception of The Nurse the rest of the killers above her are arguably balanced.

    From personal experience playing as and against her she's probably the one of the easiest killers to loop in the game not to mention that lullaby makes her laughably easy to avoid and on some maps she's completely destroyed by the map.

    In terms of difficulty to play against i would put her pretty far down and im higher as survivor than killer.

    1. Nurse
    2. Billy
    3. Spirit
    4. Hag or Clown
    5. Myers or Huntress

    As I said, people don't play her to her full potential usually. She can be easy to loop, but honestly most Huntresses I play against don't even know how to loop like normal M1 killers. Not really a problem of the killer's power if the people who play her are generally inexperienced.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

    I main Huntress and I know that Whispers is mandatory. However, I am still working on grinding out the rest of what I want in perks. Shadowborn works very well on Huntress and once it's combined with Bloodhound there is no escape. Besides, Bloodhound gives me a reason to use the hemorrhaging add-ons and actually see results.

    Other good perks for The Huntress are: Ruin, BBQ, Iron Maiden, Enduring, Predator. All in all, the goal of the Huntress's perks will be to either find survivors faster or keep track of survivors once you've found them.

    My only Huntress complaint is hatchet collision with map prop hitboxes. Some folks have cited Haddonfield hedges. Personally, I can't stand the open truck beds on Autohaven that have forcefields to stop hatchets.

    If you ever get bored, bring Monitor and Abuse and Nurse's Calling for a blast.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,590

    She just has too many polarizing maps. Some are great for her while others are near unplayable. A lot of your game decided right at the start isn't too fun. Imo playing as and against her I don't see why she even has the "hum" aside from it fitting her theme. I think she'd be fine without it. The hatchets already require a lot of skill, she's slow and a lot of maps hindering her are by themselves quite a few weaknesses already. The hum just feels like overkill.

  • GraviteaUK
    GraviteaUK Member Posts: 464
    edited January 2019

    @DexyIV said:

    @GraviteaUK said:

    @DexyIV said:
    Nah, she doesn't need a buff. No nerfs either no matter what people say. She's probably the most balanced killer out there. The only problem she has is the obscene latency of some players making it so she can hit survivors around corners, but that will hopefully be improved with dedicated servers.

    As people have previously said, not many know how to play her to her full potential.

    Hardly say she's balanced she's mid tier at best and with the exception of The Nurse the rest of the killers above her are arguably balanced.

    From personal experience playing as and against her she's probably the one of the easiest killers to loop in the game not to mention that lullaby makes her laughably easy to avoid and on some maps she's completely destroyed by the map.

    In terms of difficulty to play against i would put her pretty far down and im higher as survivor than killer.

    1. Nurse
    2. Billy
    3. Spirit
    4. Hag or Clown
    5. Myers or Huntress

    As I said, people don't play her to her full potential usually. She can be easy to loop, but honestly most Huntresses I play against don't even know how to loop like normal M1 killers. Not really a problem of the killer's power if the people who play her are generally inexperienced.

    The Huntress has been around for a while now it's not like she came out when Legion did are you trying to say "Most people" that use her are inexperienced?

    She has far too many flaws the hatchets are only good if you have a clear LoS which decent survivors won't give you and unlike with others if you get Lerys, The Game or Farm maps you can resort to Left clicking Huntress is far to slow for this.

    If she didn't have the lullaby as directional or she retained speed when holding a hatchet she would be far less map dependant.

  • DexyIV
    DexyIV Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 515

    @GraviteaUK said:

    @DexyIV said:

    @GraviteaUK said:

    @DexyIV said:
    Nah, she doesn't need a buff. No nerfs either no matter what people say. She's probably the most balanced killer out there. The only problem she has is the obscene latency of some players making it so she can hit survivors around corners, but that will hopefully be improved with dedicated servers.

    As people have previously said, not many know how to play her to her full potential.

    Hardly say she's balanced she's mid tier at best and with the exception of The Nurse the rest of the killers above her are arguably balanced.

    From personal experience playing as and against her she's probably the one of the easiest killers to loop in the game not to mention that lullaby makes her laughably easy to avoid and on some maps she's completely destroyed by the map.

    In terms of difficulty to play against i would put her pretty far down and im higher as survivor than killer.

    1. Nurse
    2. Billy
    3. Spirit
    4. Hag or Clown
    5. Myers or Huntress

    As I said, people don't play her to her full potential usually. She can be easy to loop, but honestly most Huntresses I play against don't even know how to loop like normal M1 killers. Not really a problem of the killer's power if the people who play her are generally inexperienced.

    The Huntress has been around for a while now it's not like she came out when Legion did are you trying to say "Most people" that use her are inexperienced?

    She has far too many flaws the hatchets are only good if you have a clear LoS which decent survivors won't give you and unlike with others if you get Lerys, The Game or Farm maps you can resort to Left clicking Huntress is far to slow for this.

    If she didn't have the lullaby as directional or she retained speed when holding a hatchet she would be far less map dependent.

    Yes I am saying that, because she's not an easy killer to play. With any killer that has a high skill floor in optimal play, such as the huntress, the general playerbase of that character will be bad at them. That goes for any high skill floor character in any game.
    Just because she's been out for two years does not mean that everyone knows how to play her yet. There are new players that pick her up or killer players that want to learn a new killer.
    Certain killers struggle in certain maps, this is nothing unique to her. Survivors will be forced to give LoS at some point of the game, that's up to the player to capitalize on.
    She's not god tier, but she isn't as bad as you think. Literally no reason to buff her.

  • Laakeri
    Laakeri Member Posts: 835

    The way she is getting worse is that BHVR's map designer keeps making "fun looking" instead of balanced maps and Huntress is one that suffers the most. She is beast in MacMillans, but hardly a #4 killer in average due how bad maps are for her.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    Perhaps the devs should just add a melee only mode. Maybe they could add a feature where upon hitting a special key at a locker she'd store her hatchets and move at 115% with melee only. Then she can just restock at another locker when she needs hatchets again and go back to 110%.

    Just a thought.