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Why is the Nurse still this Overpowered?
The Nurse was the first DLC killer brought into the game. This killer has been in this game for years now, and the Nurse is still blatantly overpowered and absolutely no fun to play against. I don't even play Nurse that much, but when I do I get an easy 4k every single time. It's stupid easy.
I mean, I disconnect whenever it's a Nurse. But I still find it idiotic that the devs still haven't addressed this.
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she isn't
I disconnect whenever it's a Nurse.
you're just encouraging people to continue to play nurse instead of learning to play the game outside of the default loop 2 win
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Friendly reminder that about 70% of Survivors rely on SC, DS, and SWF. In my eyes most Survivors aren't that great.
To contradict your point, I've never had an issue facing a Nurse even at Rank 1 as a Solo Survivor.
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You're not willing to learn how to fight her, that's why you consider her OP.
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The nurse isn't overpowered and a good survivor can counter her.
Obviously you are not able to adapt your playstyle to a killer who can't be looped for days. So the problem is not the nurse, you are the problem.There is no need to adjust the nurse in any way.
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The Nurse is not op. She's never been op. She does what she was designed to do according to the devs' own stated design intent for her, namely forcing survivors to stop resorting to exploits to escape the killer. It's that simple. She doesn't need to be nerfed. If anything, she should be brought back to how she was originally, with 3 blinks and 115% movement speed as her baseline stats.
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If survivors spend even half as much time learning how to play against her, as nurse players do spend learning how to play her.
Then they wouldn't even consider her op.
Instead they disconnect because they don't want a challenge.
Those very same survivors usually complain that killers lobby dodge and don't want a challenge against a fully decked 4 man swf.
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She's not. You're just worse at the game than the person playing her.
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Because barely any of the people that play Nurse are amazing with her and the Devs don't balance around the minority.
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this is comedy, okay nurse requires you to know how to play her and well, you can also move towards her when she blinks, she is not op, she is just considered op because she can counter vaults and pallets and hiding next to walls, she moves at 96.25 speed and really she relys on blinks to win
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Nurse is not op-.You just need a different playstyle facing her. She is actually one of the most fun killer to face against,considering how much of a game changer she is to chases.
Only her AddOns require a total rework at some point.0 -
guys this needs to be always the first reply if someone asks for nurse nerfs:
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Nurse has a very high skill cap. I don't see why this shouldn't be rewarded.
If they nerfed nurse then what's the point in putting hours and hours into learning how to play her just to get the same results as a killer thats easier to play?5 -
There are just 3 things you need to know when facing nurse: Lightburn, Timing, and Head tilts.
Lightburn: That's right, flashlights can stun the Nurse, all you have to do is just shoot her in the torso with light as she's charging a blink and then she's stunned. With how much survivors complain about excess flashlights I think you can risk a few to practice this.
Timing and Head tilts. The nurse cannot cancel blinks once they're charged. If a nurse charges a blink for 4+ seconds you can charge at then as they blink and usually they'll go straight past you. You can use this to waste time or juke her entirely. The key thing is the nurse's head though. While she cannot cancel a blink on most maps nurses will look straight down to turn a long distance blink into a 1/3 meter blink. If you run towards a nurse and she bows, turn around!
TL:DR
Use flashlights to stun her while she charges blink. Charge at her after 4+ sec of charge. If she looks straight down when you charge run away.3 -
The Nurse is very strong by design, but only if the one who plays her knows how to play as her you will have a hard time. A good Nurse still struggles against survivors, a great Nurse will (almost) always win
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@Jonny said:
The Nurse was the first DLC killer brought into the game. This killer has been in this game for years now, and the Nurse is still blatantly overpowered and absolutely no fun to play against. I don't even play Nurse that much, but when I do I get an easy 4k every single time. It's stupid easy.I mean, I disconnect whenever it's a Nurse. But I still find it idiotic that the devs still haven't addressed this.
Nurse is the only killer that can compete with a competent SWF
You just need to accept that you cant loop against her, I know its hard
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Something tells me tis guy wont post of nerfs anymore3
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The reason they dont give her adjustments is because they and all those toxic killer mains around us think you can outplay her. I'm running BBQ, NC, Whispers, Shadowborn. I always know where the survivors are. There is not an escape. I can easily port right next to the survivor and hit him. Through Shadowborn I see where they running so I just click M2 , another one and they're down. I ignore everything. Objectives, windows, pallets it doesnt matter. I dont need 15 seconds to blink again. I don't get slowed, i can shorten the fatigue. I can set my blink perfectly because you get a feeling for this. I can check the area, blink straight and 180° during this and check the area from the other side.
Every killer has a balance. The spirit, the hag, the legion. The spirit has a long cooldown, can't ignore every objective, can't see blood or the survivor. The legion must hit you 12 times, he cannot ignore objectives. he also has a limit and a cooldown + fatigue. The Hag just can port to a specific point she has to lay down. And good survivors can trigger those and still make some mindgames because she can't ignore pallets, windows or other objectives.
You know what I wanna say? Every slow killer, every killer with more movement speed or a "blink"-ability has points of balance. The Nurse not. People just sayin: hey you just can outplay her (yea if she's bad word af.) It's like you would hack the game to break mechanics. This is the nurse. And I seriously can't understand why the devs don't balance her. She needs a tweak something so the survivor has a REALISTIC chance a technical chance.
And trust me, dbd veterans know it. If the devs really want a balanced game which is fun and fair to play. The nurse will be on their agenda^^3 -
The Nurse is fine, the only things I would change is the 5 blink add-on and rework the rest so they don't have such major downsides her add-ons need to enhance her in ways not make her worse.
The problem most players have versus her is they try and play like they are facing everyone else, well that's never gonna work.
Break line of sight, stealth, be erratic in movements, dont take the obvious path in front of you, if you are predictable you will die.4 -
Considering gen rush just got buffed I dont think nurse will be seeing any "nerfs" for a while.... I mean 2 people with green boxes can finish a gen in 30 seconds.....
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If you really have that much trouble bring a flashlight and shine her when she's charging it light burns her and forces a stun.0
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BECAUSE SHE'S ON PURE CRACK COCAINE0
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I dunno.
Why can survivors loop endlessly, and still abuse infinites? (Yes they do still exist, some new ones were even made with the new medium vault speed.)
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"I easily 4K every time..... at rank 20" LUL You can 4K rank 20 by playing an uncloaked wraith only, with your eyes closed
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has nobody seen her bug? check ardethas channel. She's dead for this patch.
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@Poweas said:
has nobody seen her bug? check ardethas channel. She's dead for this patch.HAHAHA ######### WHAT?!
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The devs are scared of both the Nurse and her little army of children that will attack like rabid rats at the sight of someone nerfing their holy god. That's why they won't touch her or Billy.
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If you keep looping her as if she any other killers you will be on the hook in a matter of sec. I agree tho in the right hand she decimate survivors to the point survivors should have a little white flag for surrending1
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Poweas said:
has nobody seen her bug? check ardethas channel. She's dead for this patch.what is the bug, is it phantom grab?
She has way more dead zones then she did. Look.
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@Mc_Harty said:
@Poweas said:
has nobody seen her bug? check ardethas channel. She's dead for this patch.HAHAHA [BAD WORD] WHAT?!
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@BigBadPiggy said:
The devs are scared of both the Nurse and her little army of children that will attack like rabid rats at the sight of someone nerfing their holy god. That's why they won't touch her or Billy.Or Hag actually. Hag is almost as good as Billy. They won't touch them 3 because they're on a whole new level to most the killers and they're fan favourites.
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@Poweas said:
@ToxicFengM1n said:
@Poweas said:
has nobody seen her bug? check ardethas channel. She's dead for this patch.what is the bug, is it phantom grab?
She has way more dead zones then she did. Look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ9oKMh27Rooh no
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Deadzone? What's that? (Seriously)
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@AetherBytes said:
Deadzone? What's that? (Seriously)Areas where Nurse can't blink through.
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His reaction tells me that dead zones are common somehow with this patch.0
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I'm a rank 1 killer. I just tested it out. I played 5 straight games as Nurse, 4ked every single time, including a full SWF all using DS, BT and instaheals, and they barely managed to get 3 gens done. My fact still stands.
Yes the Nurse at low levels is fine. It still makes sense to properly balance the Killer for all levels. When an experienced Nurse plays, 9/10 they will 4k, unless one guy is lucky enough to get the hatch.
Here I'll do the Devs job for them, here is a PERFECT Nurse rework: Make her a 110 killer. Her power has a short cooldown. She can blink only a VERY short distance, say through walls or windows. Make the add-on to add 1 additional chain blink ultra-rare. Bam she is a balanced killer and fun to play as and against.
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@Jonny said:
I'm a rank 1 killer. I just tested it out. I played 5 straight games as Nurse, 4ked every single time, including a full SWF all using DS, BT and instaheals, and they barely managed to get 3 gens done. My fact still stands.Yes the Nurse at low levels is fine. It still makes sense to properly balance the Killer for all levels. When an experienced Nurse plays, 9/10 they will 4k, unless one guy is lucky enough to get the hatch.
Here I'll do the Devs job for them, here is a PERFECT Nurse rework: Make her a 110 killer. Her power has a short cooldown. She can blink only a VERY short distance, say through walls or windows. Make the add-on to add 1 additional chain blink ultra-rare. Bam she is a balanced killer and fun to play as and against.
Footage or it didnt happen.
I dont believe such statements from a 2 post-guy
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Who said it is the perfect rework? I find it insulting.Jonny said:I'm a rank 1 killer. I just tested it out. I played 5 straight games as Nurse, 4ked every single time, including a full SWF all using DS, BT and instaheals, and they barely managed to get 3 gens done. My fact still stands.
Yes the Nurse at low levels is fine. It still makes sense to properly balance the Killer for all levels. When an experienced Nurse plays, 9/10 they will 4k, unless one guy is lucky enough to get the hatch.
Here I'll do the Devs job for them, here is a PERFECT Nurse rework: Make her a 110 killer. Her power has a short cooldown. She can blink only a VERY short distance, say through walls or windows. Make the add-on to add 1 additional chain blink ultra-rare. Bam she is a balanced killer and fun to play as and against.
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Simply because really good SWF teams can still dominate a nurse to certain extend.
I will just copy paste what I wrote in another post:
"I remember back then I just wanted to play casually a round nurse to warm up. 4 survivors enter my lobby, all with default cosmetics, ThatsGonnaBeChill.mp4 .....
Last second switch to P3 cosmetics and 4 medkits and I was just "ooooh FFS..."
4 insta heals, 4 DS, 4 UB, 4 Adrenalin, 2 Deliverance, 2 DH. It was impossible to win this match, cuz I couldn't get any pressure on the survivors or on gens. Every down or hook got nullified with perks or addons.
Gens got pumped hardcore.
I had no special addons, but I think even with omegablink I couldn't have done much. And I'm not a bad nurse at all, I don't need addons or perks to get my 2-3k's at red ranks most of the time.
Some swf perk/item/addon combos are plain disgusting"
@Tsulan I think you would agree with me on this point right? Some stuff on survivors side is so insane that even a nurse with omegablink will have a hard time.1 -
So you DC every time you face her instead of learning to play against her? And then call her OP?
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Yeah I don't get why everyone cries about Legion when Nurse exists.
Neither has any real counter-play. Sure you can argue about how you can try to break line of sight with the Nurse but still you're relying on the killer to make a mistake, and if they'r good at tracking and have brought tracking perks then it makes little difference.
Legion might be able to get you no matter what you do but he's slow as hell. It takes him forever to cross the map, he can't slug effectively and the team can get gens done while he's slowly downing someone. Yes he has powerful purple add ons but they are rare add ons.
Nurse on the other hand crosses the map in seconds and can down a survivor in like 5 seconds, she's also hands down the best slugger in the game.
When you go against a Nurse you're just relying on the killer to make mistakes. if they don't then you're screwed. I'll take Legion over Nurse anyday.
The worst part about Nurse is that if she's good your team will be slugged within minutes, if it's a bad nurse then when they finally get someone down they'll just camp them all game. Such an awful character. People cry Legion is broken yadda yadda yadda and yet Nurse still tops tier lists....wonder what that says about her.
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Yes I agree.HavelmomDaS1 said:Simply because really good SWF teams can still dominate a nurse to certain extend.
I will just copy paste what I wrote in another post:
"I remember back then I just wanted to play casually a round nurse to warm up. 4 survivors enter my lobby, all with default cosmetics, ThatsGonnaBeChill.mp4 .....
Last second switch to P3 cosmetics and 4 medkits and I was just "ooooh FFS..."
4 insta heals, 4 DS, 4 UB, 4 Adrenalin, 2 Deliverance, 2 DH. It was impossible to win this match, cuz I couldn't get any pressure on the survivors or on gens. Every down or hook got nullified with perks or addons.
Gens got pumped hardcore.
I had no special addons, but I think even with omegablink I couldn't have done much. And I'm not a bad nurse at all, I don't need addons or perks to get my 2-3k's at red ranks most of the time.
Some swf perk/item/addon combos are plain disgusting"
@Tsulan I think you would agree with me on this point right? Some stuff on survivors side is so insane that even a nurse with omegablink will have a hard time.
Nurse is strong but hard to learn. Good nurse players spend easily 200+ hours only on her to master her.
This time can be a nightmare. Because survivor mains love to bully noob nurses.
I said it before and I'll repeat it again.
If survivors spend as much time at learning how to dodge her blinks, as nurse players spend on mastering her, there wouldn't be a problem.
But they prefer easy matches and disconnect.2 -
One of the most fun killers to face, sorry it takes more thought than running in a circle but a looping build can't work for every match.1
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Short version: Play on console
Long version: dont disconnect, disconnecting is for pussies, it only causes your teammates to get messed over even further, it is annoying as hell for everyone
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The Nurse is OP but seeing as she's the only killer who can out skill a 4 person SWF squad the devs are afraid to touch her. If they nerfed or reworked her without doing something to address SWF... well... let's just say it would cause quite the commotion among the killer community.
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Nurse hates flashlights it sends her directly into fatigue if shined in her face as she charges only her and wraith can be lightburned.The_Crusader said. Sure you can argue about how you can try to break line of sight with the Nurse but still you're relying on the killer to make a mistake, and if they'r good at tracking and have brought tracking perks then it makes little difference.Nurse on the other hand crosses the map in seconds and can down a survivor in like 5 seconds, she's also hands down the best slugger in the game.
When you go against a Nurse you're just relying on the killer to make mistakes. if they don't then you're screwed. I'll take Legion over Nurse anyday.
The worst part about Nurse is that if she's good your team will be slugged within minutes, if it's a bad nurse then when they finally get someone down they'll just camp them all game. Such an awful character. People cry Legion is broken yadda yadda yadda and yet Nurse still tops tier lists....wonder what that says about her.
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