Camping and tunnelling (again)
The other day I was on twitter when I saw someone going off on camping and tunneling. I could've avoided this conversation, but I was curious, so I involved myself in it. It started off with them showing a picture of themselves being camped by a doctor with a teammate in basement at one gen left with a total of 3 hook. Then there was another picture showing a twins player face camping at 2 gens with them about to die on hook. I said I understand the Doctor camping sense he had two players in basement (half the team) and had no real reason to leave. I acknowledged it being scummy, but he was able to secure a 2k. They replied with saying they weren't being toxic and that if the killer didn't want to be looped for so long why are they playing killer. I said killer is a hard role and that it's not nearly as forgiving as survivor. We went into a long debate with them later saying that this is extremely broken. At this point I was just confused. Later another person had included themselves calling me out that I camp and tunnel sense I was sympathizing for the killer and understood why they did it. I then went into a back and fourth with this person. I later gave up with the conversation. What do y'all think? Was I in the wrong? I'll leave up to y'all. If your still curious or confused about some parts comment on it and I explain more.
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There are few Killers that LIKE camping and tunneling.
It DOES feel scummy and it was always in my mind that it basically ruins the game for the Survivor.
However, it's often necessary. Even considering the upcoming CoH nerf, it will still be difficult for many Killers to maintain adequate pressure during the match. Ergo, killing someone as fast as possible is the easiest and often the most reliable route to victory.
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If I see an opportunity to get an upper hand, I take it. Whether that be by camping, or tunneling.
The fact is, camping only works because survivors allow it to work, and complaining that killers tunnel is the same as complaining that survivors do gens.
Let me ask you this - if I chased you off a 99'd generator, are you going to go across the map and start a new gen? That's a rhetorical question. I already know the answer is "no", as it should be. Why would you go work on a new gen when this one is almost done? Why would I chase a healthy survivor when the injured one, who is closer to death (which is my objective) is right there? It's called strategy.
In no way do I feel "scummy", nor IS it scummy. Camping and tunneling are as legitimate as doing generators in terms of strategy.
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I agree with you but I mean just camping to me feels scummy but the person I was "debating" with said its broken
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Yes I would go across the map to work on a new one
1) You won't leave the area and the gen is going to regress.
2) Their is more then likely another survivor in the area that would keep you busy and try to finish the 99 gen.
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What can I say, I like winning and killing Survivors. I don't care if they like how they die or not
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I think a lot of killers across all MMR levels realized the reality of trying to 12 hook everyone became too difficult for a number of reasons, the biggest being MMR. I'd assume it's just not worth the headache to have to sweat your balls off just to get a 2k when you could just tunnel and camp someone and end up with it regardless. It's not very fun to have to deal with it as a survivor if it's a killer that can end chases quick, but otherwise you generally have a fighting chance with DS/BT.
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Unless that survivor is good
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If you're going to sit there and tell me that after I chase your teammate off a 99'd generator, and I'm chasing your teammate, you're going to start a NEW gen, and not going to go finish the gen in 2 seconds, I'm going to call you a liar.
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Dude if you're watching the gen you're not chasing anyone
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"If I chase the survivor off the gen, and am chasing your teammate".
I said that, literally twice. Are you good?
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I'd perfer if we didnt fight if thats okay.
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A good killer knows when to camp and when not to camp. Same goes for tunneling.
Does it feel scummy? Not more than going for that 90% gen thats regressing.
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No, you said chase off the gen
When you say chase off the gen to me that means you chased them off the gen you weren't committed to the chase.
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Read.
And sit.
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Your first mistake was replying to them.
Second mistake was: "We went into a long debate"
Put survivors on the hook, don't debate with them.
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Let me ask you this - if I chased you off a 99'd generator, are you going to go across the map and start a new gen?
Your first post
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You also know "chasing off a generator" means I'm chasing someone, correct? 10k hour player here, bud. This is common lingo.
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It's a game design issue rather then a player issue. Devs need to keep in mind player behavior and adjust accordingly.
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What do you mean "camping only works because survivors allow it to"? Should have the survivors played better? Are they not allowed second chances, like the game allows them to? Just because you camped a survivor to death and the 3 other survivors repaired all of the gens and escape doesn't mean it's fun and/or fair; that survivor that died lost most likely lost a pip and barely got any bloodpoints. What are they gonna do now? If the grind didn't make it hard enough for them to get bloodpoints, how is getting facecamped to death going to help them?
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10k hour player😂 so what
Maybe you need to go back and read what I said
For me chasing off gen doesn't mean committing to the chase, but to chase them off and return to the gen
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