Flashlights

i can't use a flash light to save my life....i try but nope....is like the keys, 8/10 i never end up using it

@Mushwin said:
i can't use a flash light to save my life....i try but nope....is like the keys, 8/10 i never end up using it

I feel the only time I can use a flashlight is when I randomly find one in a treasure chest. XD If I bring one in, I either forget or just can't aim.

@Mushwin said:
@fluffybunny i udsually gift mine to someone without an item LOL i try, i try aiming for the chest and going up but ugh i suck...lol

Honestly when I get one, I use it to light up other survivors LMAO especially if I'm SWF and they don't care if I goof around. Some people are fussy.

I do the same, hehe. If I spawn by someone, I'll give the greeting squats. If I'm jumping on a gen, sometimes I'll give hello squats, too.

@LegitAdventurer said:
GraviteaUK said:

@LegitAdventurer said:

I don't understand why people get so mad over flashlights, they're one of the survivors worst items. They are very easy to counter as a killer, not only with perks, looking at walls etc etc but they also make survivors play really stupid and careless. They also put them in really vulnerable positions. On top of it all, while those flashlight survivors are hugging their tunneled friends, that's time spent doing absolutely nothing. They could be doing gens but instead they're just crouching in the grass waiting for you to slug them.

"Very easy to counter as killer"

Ok lets unpack this.

* They won't use a torch unless the killer is doing something which locks them into a position in which they can't look away, like Pickup animations, breaking a pallet, window vaults etc etc

• "They are vulnerable" The optimal blinding distance for the flashlight is not in a killers face it's out of even lunge range but that does not matter because see point 1.

• "while those flashlight survivors are hugging their tunneled friends, that's time spent doing absolutely nothing" it only takes 2 people 1 to get downed and 1 to flash, the other 2 will sit running gens as usual.

  So on the whole i can't say i agree that flashlights are the worst i actually believe toolboxes are, they only up repair speed and sabotaging hooks is not nearly as useful as it used to be.

  You could run lightborn, look away, drop the person, pretty much all of these are very simple counters too a flashlight. Do your best not to pick people up out in the open, patrol the body for a second before you pick them up. So many easy and simple counters to flashlights. 

Toolboxes are the best item lol. Gen rush is real. The entire objective is too finish gens. So to act like the flashlight guy isn't screwing over all the survivors playing king altruism is just silly.

Not all people have flashlights on the loading screen, and you cannot lookaway on pickup or drop them if the timing is right and try not to pick them up in the open? yes i will let them run for a bit longer to get to the killer bus stop for pickup, hopefully they won't find a pallet.

Lightborn is all well and good but a perk slot wasted because of people being able to blind a killer when he's locked into an animation and has no control over his character is pretty dumb.

@LegitAdventurer said:
GraviteaUK said:

@LegitAdventurer said:

GraviteaUK said:

@LegitAdventurer said:

I don't understand why people get so mad over flashlights, they're one of the survivors worst items. They are very easy to counter as a killer, not only with perks, looking at walls etc etc but they also make survivors play really stupid and careless. They also put them in really vulnerable positions. On top of it all, while those flashlight survivors are hugging their tunneled friends, that's time spent doing absolutely nothing. They could be doing gens but instead they're just crouching in the grass waiting for you to slug them.



"Very easy to counter as killer"

Ok lets unpack this.

• They won't use a torch unless the killer is doing something which locks them into a position in which they can't look away, like Pickup animations, breaking a pallet, window vaults etc etc

  • "They are vulnerable" The optimal blinding distance for the flashlight is not in a killers face it's out of even lunge range but that does not matter because see point 1.

  • "while those flashlight survivors are hugging their tunneled friends, that's time spent doing absolutely nothing" it only takes 2 people 1 to get downed and 1 to flash, the other 2 will sit running gens as usual.

  So on the whole i can't say i agree that flashlights are the worst i actually believe toolboxes are, they only up repair speed and sabotaging hooks is not nearly as useful as it used to be.

  You could run lightborn, look away, drop the person, pretty much all of these are very simple counters too a flashlight. Do your best not to pick people up out in the open, patrol the body for a second before you pick them up. So many easy and simple counters to flashlights. 

  Toolboxes are the best item lol. Gen rush is real. The entire objective is too finish gens. So to act like the flashlight guy isn't screwing over all the survivors playing king altruism is just silly.

  Not all people have flashlights on the loading screen, and you cannot lookaway on pickup or drop them if the timing is right and try not to pick them up in the open? yes i will let them run for a bit longer to get to the killer bus stop for pickup, hopefully they won't find a pallet.

  Lightborn is all well and good but a perk slot wasted because of people being able to blind a killer when he's locked into an animation and has no control over his character is pretty dumb.

  You know you can drop the survivor...even when being flashligt stunned...right?

If the survivor times it right you will start to get blinded as you are picking them up and hit full flashlight stun after you have just finished picking them up and drop the survivor with no chance to move or the game acknowledging a key press

You can spend the entire time spamming R but it won't make a difference.

Oh really? When you face toxic survivors with friends and they keep bullying you the whole game and blind you even when you check your surrounding you think it's ok? I think Flashlights should be removed from the game. since you think it's easy then maybe you should suggest removing the flashlight?

I legit hate flashlights. I didn't care until I ran into this David King that did this bullshit thing where he like... Flashed me while I was breaking a pallet, and then flashed me again immediately after my first flash wore off, and then I turned to get away from it, and he followed my turn and flashed me again? I ended up disconnecting because he just kept doing it & I couldn't get away from him.

GraviteaUK said:

@LegitAdventurer said:
I don't understand why people get so mad over flashlights, they're one of the survivors worst items. They are very easy to counter as a killer, not only with perks, looking at walls etc etc but they also make survivors play really stupid and careless. They also put them in really vulnerable positions. On top of it all, while those flashlight survivors are hugging their tunneled friends, that's time spent doing absolutely nothing. They could be doing gens but instead they're just crouching in the grass waiting for you to slug them.

"Very easy to counter as killer"

Ok lets unpack this.

1. They won't use a torch unless the killer is doing something which locks them into a position in which they can't look away, like Pickup animations, breaking a pallet, window vaults etc etc

2. "They are vulnerable" The optimal blinding distance for the flashlight is not in a killers face it's out of even lunge range but that does not matter because see point 1.

3. "while those flashlight survivors are hugging their tunneled friends, that's time spent doing absolutely nothing" it only takes 2 people 1 to get downed and 1 to flash, the other 2 will sit running gens as usual.

So on the whole i can't say i agree that flashlights are the worst i actually believe toolboxes are, they only up repair speed and sabotaging hooks is not nearly as useful as it used to be.