General Discussions
General Discussions
So you think SWF is fair!
I just had 3 oak offerings and 3 boil overs in one game.
I could barely manage a hook.
I don't know if I'm high mmr but if I am TBH I wish I wasn't.
None of them were even that good in the chase. Yet I get a 1k.
Utter garbage and I'm getting sick of it.
Comments
-
I got a 4k recently against a team like that. Is it annoying? Yes. But it’s far from OP.
14 -
So what does that prove? You downed them by hooks and I didn't. Shall I tell them to get downed by hooks next time?
1 -
Why didnt you slug them? If you see boil over and 3 oak offerings?
12 -
Just let them bleed on the ground dont leave them to get up if somebody comes to pick up down others if one do gens ok cool but i would not let them get up whole match.
0 -
I did slug but they crawled apart in tall grass.
0 -
If someone is fighting that hard to be unhookable, just let them enjoy the ground.
they brought that on themselves.
6 -
Well bro cant win them all 👊
2 -
I have had a tough night and this was the last straw!
Every game today has been a sweat.
I don't expect it to be easy but it's been a nightmare.
Even games I got a 3k was no fun.
1 -
This is just a game you will forget about it i just keep my chill when i go against that type of stuff and wait for them to make mistakes if they do i get the w if they dont i get the l and i'm fine with that
0 -
This was fun game when they tried to abuse lockers and flashies while one do gens i didnt play how they think i will and you see how it ended and ofc they were toxic in end game chat but who cares
1 -
Generally that's the way I look at it too. My internet cut off last night and I lost 2 pips when nearly ranking up.
They were bang in trouble that game too. Annoying.
See how tomorrow goes. More of the same then I take a break and wait for an update.
0 -
My advice is to find a different time of day to play. DbD at night is when all the sweaty boys come out to play, so I don't like playing from 8pm to 12am.
1 -
SWF is fair by itself. This is just a specific setting where they are out to get on the Killer's nerves, but this can also happen even in SoloQ (granted less coordinated). I've had matches like this where all you can do is slug them and let them in the ground. One is guaranteed to have Unbreakable at least, but there isn't much to do in this specific situation.
As people pointed out, just slug them and let them enjoy the ground. You won't get many points as is, but neither will them whatsoever... but yes, it's annoying as hell. I agree.
5 -
Well you have time for rank but really 2m is not big deal grind is problem in this game
0 -
Well the game wasn't balance for comms but thats another subject. Yeah I was just bang out of luck. Tall grass everywhere and they crawled apart.
0 -
LOLed at "SWF is fair by itself". Yeah, sure
4 -
Usually no 2 pips is no big deal but been a nightmare every game after lol.
Even when I 3k.
I dunno I thought they messed with mmr again. If not then the test's were pointless If this is the end result.
0 -
The game is not balanced in general, but that's another aspect. Don't let people get in your nerves over some of these mechanics... I do understand your frustration whatsoever. I've had this happen to me in The Game and Lery's Memorial before. It was maddening to say the least.
0 -
I will never mind "bully squads" they tend to make mistakes but those gen rush squads that loop like they have wh turned on all the time and run faster then they should like they speed up around corners hmmm that is wierd stuff
0 -
I guess i got outplayed and i need to git gud
0 -
I had a game where 3 had DH, boil over, Unbreakable, Flip flop. The other had sabo etc. Couple flashlights too.
It was satisfying to get a 1k at least.
Afterwards I learned to sometimes slug.
0 -
Yeah I see this a lot. Their own teammates probably don't even notice but I do.
0 -
What does that prove?
Skill issue.
0 -
Don't think so pal. I can't teleport to hooks. If they are too far there is nothing I can do.
Slug yes but as I said they split up in tall grass no way I could keep track without a perk.
SWF have the luxury of better preparation in some scenarios.
Weak troll BTW.
0 -
It's not really OP. They aren't playing to win, they're playing to annoy you.
So, OP? No. Annoying as #########? Yes.
0 -
Yet they won didn't they. I have faced much tougher and smashed them.
The fact they coordinated like that plus had a map with tall grass everywhere gave them a win.
Are they not nerfing boil over? So must be OP in some scenarios.
0 -
yes in 99.9% of games swf is fair
3 -
They are nerfing Boil Over because it's extremely difficult to control on console.
If you got a 1K against a Boil Over squad who was meme'ing, it was probably on you. However, without seeing the match, I couldn't say.
0 -
Ha ha not even replying!
0 -
Well I use controller on PC. I do well enough usually or I would switch to mouse.
0 -
Swf is fair because this is pvp game and people will tryhard to win and nobody cares that you want chill game and not to sweat xd balance that?! Haha
0 -
It's fine If they want to use an unfair super perk called comms. I usually smash them anyway.
Well I like a challenge but unfair balance is the reason killers are getting turned off isn't it.
If all is gravy then they can enjoy playing good nurse's and blight's.
Sounds like fun SWF boys. Enjoy the future you created.
3 -
Idk man they make me sweat few games then i go against solos destroy them in less then 5 mins and i feel bad after that game because i was ready for war and i get potatos game is in wierd state hope it will get better
2 -
This usually happens for me but no dice today all felt like SWF. Few speed hackers for sure too. Not really obvious enough to report though.
0 -
No worries. Boil Over is getting nerfed in the upcoming patch.
0 -
Start seeing a lot of swfs the only thing you can do is switch to a high mobility killer or a ranged but mobility is often the better choice such as Blight, legion, nurse, spirit and billy. I do think after legions rework he will become a lot more oppressive against coordination as players wont want to be grouped up at all and I really cant wait for it to release. As for hackers I honestly think thats also in the works for a fix too which is why bhvr is mum on the subject so they cant get those repsonsible and fix the holes the hacks utilize.
0 -
I don’t see that much anymore since the buffed Boil Over got nerfed, but on the rare occasion I do I just slug and let them bleed out. I’ll give them the unfun match they wanted.
1 -
got me riiipppp
0 -
Iron Grasp helps. I'm doing Insidious Basement Bubba and these SWF's aren't happy. I've been getting threatened all week... over a game.
4 -
I usually use iron grasp if I have scourge hook perk. Perhaps it's worse for me because using a controller so will wait for update and see.
Just close chat on the entitled little brats. It's not your fault they are stupid enough to go down there against Bubba.
I don't have Bubba but I've had disgusting chat from people that went down against Trapper and all died.
0 -
The funniest part is when you have outplayed them but "Oh, DH is here", 2nd chance baby 😂
0 -
I tried dude. Slugged 3 and one was injured but the 3 downed all crawled apart in tall grass on Red Forest. Just the way it goes I already had about 6+ tough games in a row before that so was questioning if this is fun anymore.
Even the games I got 3k in weren't all that fun either. Too stressful.
Hope I have a better time of it today.
0 -
One of the games yesterday I had a 4 DH team. I got a 3k but it wasn't even fun it was too annoying.
0 -
Ye it is driving me crazy as well.
All my trials i have 4 DH/2 BT/2 Unbreakable/ 1 or 2 CoH + some increase gen speed perks.
It is unplayable 😂
0 -
Pretty much unplayable if the players are competent and communicating.
I don't expect to win all the time but feeling helpless is utterly stupid.
1 -
That is the high MMR experience, such a great competitive and fair feeling.
Killers possible strategies :
- chasing survivors -> between 12 and 25 safe loops/jungle gyms + DH -> cannot win
- slugging -> unbreakable and exponential -> doesn't work anymore
- camping/tunneling -> BT/DS -> doesn't work
- hit and run -> CoH -> doesn't work anymore
Every killers' possibilities are countered by the maps' design and some perks. Everything, killers are powerless now. And killers have not a single efficient counter to the survivors' gameplay mechanics. It is either a hex that is cleansed in 30 seconds or a power with an uncalibrated design (Pinhead chains' time for the survivor to get free is too low they can still continue to loop most of the time or Billy's chainsaw too long to charge coupled with the slow down walking speed...).
Well it's like all timings are off for the killers, on purpose.
3 -
Wraith's stock uncloak speed too. Maybe the Dev's think all Killers are suckers for punishment.
1 -
When I did this I went against a sabo squad with 3 oaks, 4 boil overs, 4 exponentials, 4 unbreakables, and 4 COHs. I couldn't leave one alone for more than a second since if I did their friends would get them back up instantly. It was truly an unwinnable game since most of the map was booned and if I just slugged the other 3 would pump out gens
3 -
You keep mentioning tall grass but survivors make noise when they’re downed. I also wonder how you know they all crawled so far away from each other if you didn’t know where they were?
Boil over is generally only an issue on indoor maps - hence why it’s getting nerfed. I get they used the offerings, but even after two slugs you couldn’t get one hook?
Maybe just chalk it up to a bad game. I know when I’ve had a few rough killer games and get a little frustrated I start to play a little worse and make mistakes I know I wouldn’t usually. That’s when I take a break, play some survivor or stop playing for the day. No game is worth getting tilted over.
0 -
It makes you want to explode with how rigged it is sometimes. Perhaps the solution would be to have a button to actually explode and kill those around you lol
0
