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If the killer in the 6th anniversary chapter is garbage I quit killer.
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Doesn't matter if they hit over pallets, you gotta land 2 in a row to do anything. The time it takes to drop that second bird even after a pallet drop any survivor with a brain is already gone.
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Where did i suggest that?
Please stop making claims on behalf of me. I´m perfectly able to say what i mean.
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Two in a row to "do anything" ? By "do anything" do you mean down someone? Because Birds deal damage at close range. You only have to hit with two for a health state at a distance.
Did...you not even know this?
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No I’d rather have a killer that breaks the mould. Strength doesn’t always correlate with pick rate anyway. Shape and doctor despite being weak retain fairly high pick rates.
What I want is for BHVR to take more risks with killer designs. Whether they end up being OP or terrible is irrelevant to me
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"both aren't exactly S tier" on these forums gives connotations of them being trash, especially when you factor in the context of the post:
"IF THE KILLER IN THE 6TH ANNIVERSARY CHAPTER IS GARBAGE I QUIT KILLER."
"If the new killer in the 6th anniversary chapter is extremely underpowered"
Hence why I assumed what I did.
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Don´t make assumptions, please.
I meant what i wrote and you confirmed, that the last 2 anniversary killers are not S tier. As i said in my original statement, if OP wants to quit because of that. Then why wait?
To me, this was just a response to another "i quit because XXX" thread. No profound analysis of any killers power.
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Nemesis shortly after launch kinda faded away for a bit but I do actually see him a decent amount these days. But when after the launch I saw a little period of like rare Nemesis. Maybe just because of the problems. But Artist while you may not find her strong, many others did. And people keep saying they want strong killers right? Well what happens when a strong killer comes out for those people? Well I saw 1 yesterday and that was after weeks of no Artist sightings from just me though. I don't think many play her.
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I mean, the new killer doesn't have to be as strong as Nurse but at least give him some power. I just don't want another killer like Onryo that has almost no power at all.
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lol sadly I dislike her, I tried I really did. I wanted to like her but I just find her clunky to use. :(
I find nurse tough too but at least she has one of the creepiest horror aesthetics of the original killers so I keep playing her.
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Nemesis is not S tier maybe but i don't care. I have so much fun with him, my fav killer atm. And he is good killer to stop survivors.
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None of the Killers released the last year was really weak. Sadako was probably the weakest of them, however, I think this is fine - she is very easy to use, so it is ok that she is not as strong as other Killers.
If you want to quit Killer - please do so. You dont need to open another Thread if you quit, nobody really cares anyway.
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Then enjoy him. I'd just wish, that his addons actually did something. Every time I look at lickers tongue, I ask myself if someone made a typo.
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Yeah his add-ons are not that great. I am usually using add-ons which makes tier up faster.
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Why is it fine that The Onryo is this weak? Nobody plays her anymore because of how underpowered she is. Idk why that's a good thing.
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I also don't think any new killer will be S tier anymore. The only S tier killers are Nurse and maybe Blight. I enjoyed playing Nemesis as well but the current state of the game (with SBMM / MMR) makes it hard to have fun in my opinion.
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To the indifferent, a weak killer just means more 'fun' survivor games and one killer they're not forced to play.
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I play mostly without addons. Unless they change the playstyle of a killer (like scratched mirror). Because most of the time, the benefit the addon gives, is so little, that i don´t even bother.
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If her Iri Tape Add On was just a part of her power, she'd be pretty good. Yeah you're not going to be getting Condemnation 4ks or 3ks unless you really try for it with the add on that spreads condemnation on healing and you do a slugging build but you can literally be just about anywhere at any moment.
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Yes, I think it is fine if a Killer that easy is not S- or A-Tier.
You will still win against the majority of Survivors with her.
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Sadako has 0 power?
And Trapper doesn't have any traps right? Since they're all on the ground. 🤣
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I think Sadako has a great design but in an effort to make her fair they had to defang her power so much it's pretty sad. The tv's don't even pose a thread so why bother interacting with them? You get a very clear audible sound knowing when she's teleporting to a tv and one whole stack of condemned while the tv goes on a 100 second cooldown. Most games I play against her I might not even interact with a tv at all because they pose no threat. If the leaked killer is true then I also really like his design too but I REALLY hope that the darkness gimmick actually holds some water and actually makes him a threat. Worst case scenario survivors can see through the darkness by changing their graphics setting or something completely making it pointless.
That's the real problem here. BHVR put out some awesome killers but they're held back so much by the fact that you gotta balance for freshly installed out of the box players. Not that I'm blaming people for being new and learning the game but lowering killer powers down to that level really hurts them.
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Idk if you're serious or not but I really can't tell you what her power is. Like I said, bad stealth, tv cooldown is way too long and survivors get rid of the effect in no time... Nothing is strong about her.
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I don't know at what MMR but sure, have fun with her.😅
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they need to increase all killers' speed. 4.6 is not enough because there are too many pallets, and they are close to each other. increase to 4.8
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I was thinking about this as well. I think 115% killers should be 118% and 110% killers should be 113%. They could try it in the PTB to see what people think about it. I think it's worth the try!
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I mean against people who have played dbd for more than say 50 hours she should not get any kills, what does she have, stealth? You can use spinechill, her lullaby or your eyes, a tp? What dangerous is an m1 killer really? Literally no problem if she tps next to you you are still safe, and lastly condemn, if I have to explain why condemn is bad I dont think im talking to someone who is at least decent at survivor.
Trapper can still get people in chase by corraling or forcing lose-lose situations if the survivor doesnt have dh, not to say he isnt a meme killer but he doesnt depend of people to throw to win.
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It shouldn't matter as long as the killer is very fun. Those are the people that they play.
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Agreed but there are few actual good high bracket killers. Thats a problem in need of addressing. Mmr exists you cant ignore you higher mmr player base unless you view vetran players as expendable. Which seems bad long term.
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Just quit boi.
Killer is weak, and survivor have tunneling and queue time issue.
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You aren't meant to use her tv's exposure feature as your "main" power. I am not sure why you would play her that way anyway.
She is far more stealthy than you give her credit for. She has a lot of map pressure, which no other (aside from Freddy) killer has.
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I mean, that's your opinion. If you think she is a good killer with a lot of map pressure then please play her. I still have my opinion and I feel like the majority of the killers agree with me. I mean, there has to be a reason why we never see her anymore. I think that's because she is extremely underpowered.
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I had 2171 Hooked survivors in basement vs 1208 Generators repaired
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Sadako and Trickster are literally the only 2 weak killers released in the past two years, gimme a break with these dramatics lol.
Not every killer can be S or A tier.
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Cenobite, Nemesis, Twins would like to have a word with you
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I would rather kill myself than get another 'weak but fun' killer personally lol. Why cant a killer be good and fun why do we as killers have to sacrifice our ability to kill in order to have fun? "Theyre weak but they're fun to play!" Yeah its not fun once you start getting bullied every match. If you want a frankly no power killer like Sadako to last then maps need to be actually reworked to fit the game and gen times need to be increased or a second objective needs to come. Until then we need anti loop or some form of it on every killer otherwise we just get an F tier killer like Sadako or Pig who have no real power in chase against good survivors.
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I never meant they had to be weak. I just don’t want another artist/nemesis or trickster
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A tier killer, B tier killer, S tier killer that's been nerfed to low A high B tier
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I think we get mostly weak killers because the devs are afraid of backlash. Most of the playerbase are survivor mains. Look how survivor sided most aspects of this game are. They don't want to upset the majority and as long as killers keep logging on every day to play against the same meta builds with the same outcomes it'll never change. So don't expect the new killer to be very viable. Honestly I wish every killer main would take a long break and force some change. Go play some different games, and when survivors have to search an hour for a masochistic killer to voluntarily be bullied they might have a change of heart on a few things....but I doubt it lol I'm mostly joking but I really wouldn't expect the new killer to be very good.
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The killer seems like they’re going to be a lot like Sadako, they’re an M1 killer who can teleport and don’t have any abilities to help during chases.
I hope they’re fun but personally I prefer killers with an interesting ranged m2 ability which can deal damage be it Demogorgon’s leap, Deathslinger’s gun or Nemesis’s tentacle whip.
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it is my opinion and that of a lot of other players too. No one is arguing otherwise.
Just as much as it is your opinion that you think she has no power.
Of course the majority of killer players will agree with you here. Have you been around here?
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Sorry, but killer rate is above 50%. If killers want better new killers they should stop camping and tunneling
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Too bad Sadako is neither unique nor strong. She just exists because she is a famous queen
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Yeah... no. Cenobite never has been higher than C tier. His 1v1 doesn't exist and his 1v4 is in the Survivor's control. He basically has no direct Powers.
Nemesis has a garbage early game, granting Survivors 3 (4 with Dead Hard) Health States, 1 Vaccines for everyone, and 2 non-functional Zombies that get stuck in corners.
I don't know what you were taking when you said that Twins were ever S tier, but I want it, and they didn't get nerfed just a little bit, they got removed from the game. They dropped from A tier all the way down to C tier thanks to their unnecessary cooldowns and CoH
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Just because you don't know how to play them doesn't make them bad. Not sure if it's still happening but cenobite was seeing fringe tournament play and twins were very common in tournaments before the nerf.
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I doubt Pinhead was used in tournaments, successfully anyway.
Twins probably were in tournaments pre-nerf, but I'm talking about current Twins, which are mediocre at best.
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Twins buffed is a killer that shouldn't exist. It's the cheesiest, most boring, toxicity inducing killer by far. Permanent slugging, tunnelling and hook camping parking the body next to the hooked survivor constantly.
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So an efficient Killer is a toxic Killer?
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You can be efficient and not toxic, and efficient and toxic. It's not mutually exclusive.
Twins are efficient -and- extremely toxic and unhealthy for the game.
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Camping, tunneling and slugging are the most efficient playstyles in the game, and those are what you define as toxic, so no, playing efficiently and non-toxic is, by your definition, impossible
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Get out of your own fantasy. I said you can be efficient and toxic, and efficient and not toxic. Example: A Billy might tunnel or camp in specific moments, or all the time, but it's not ingrained in his very design. Twins, by design (just like Hag, designed to - and encouraged to camp) are specifically designed to play in the most unhealty way possible, slugging and camping (and encourages tunnelling). So yes, it is very possible to be efficient and not toxic.
Maybe it is your personal style to always be toxic regardless of how efficient you are being, but that's just you.
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