Definitive Dead Hard Rant

I feel that if DH gets nerfed, so will many top tier killers. DH is brought not only because of its versatility, but because it's a good to counter zoning. I.e a Huntress is about to line up a really tight shot around a corner. Instead of getting downed by a garbage truck hit box after turning a corner, you can dodge it and have a better chase. It's not entirely fair, but it also acts as a band-aid for bad hitboxes/latency. As well as killers like Nurse or Blight. Both of which can zone you out with their mobility and chase ability.

DH is not fair at all and that's not what I'm trying to say. The point I'm making is, if people are going to choose between your fairness and theirs, they are going to choose theirs. DH is painful against lower tier killers because their power isn't good enough to compete with it. But for all the ones who can not having DH makes them even stronger than before.

And this isn't because "all survivors are just trash and can't play without DH". It's due to killers being able to ignore certain chase mechanics and force people into disadvantageous situations simply because they pressed a button. DH's nerf is going to bring a lot of other balance changes as well. But it will be for the better. I just doubt most people will like it.

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I think boon COH is worse at this point in the game. The only issue I have with DH is the cheaters with auto deadhard when the killer swings, otherwise I’m pretty okay at baiting it and waiting.

i'll tell you an anedocte: i stopped once and for all to play dbd cause the devs mock their playerbase (they said that dead hard will be "looked at" but in the meatime they put that cursed perk in the tomes challenges and the worst thing is that they also put it in the shrine of secrets too)... my matches were already filled with dead hard users, but this utterly worsened the situation

Not with that much Slowdown-Perks in the game.

If you can remove 32 seconds of Progress with a single Hook (Pain Resonance + PGTW), you can afford way longer chases. I am using Slowdown-Perks since a few days (did not run them for years), and the game feels so easy now, it is insane.

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Oh, cool, a Dead Hard-Thread! Finally someone opens it.

But I hope that Killers realize that if DH gets nerfed and if it is really true that Survivors only survive that long because of DH, that other things on the Killers Side basically have to be nuked if that is really the case. Like Bloodlust and Slowdown-Perks. Because if the Chasetime really is reduced that much due to DH (I doubt it), other things need to be rebalanced. But if this is the case, I already know that the "The Devs only cater to Survivors"-people will come out.

And I really hope that nobody complains about Sprint Burst once DH is nerfed and the good Survivors (who are the only ones where DH is really problematic, bad Survivors with DH are no problem) switched to Sprint Burst and showing the Killers that it is actually even stronger than DH and even more unfun to go against.

Truth but really, Bloodlust is only just Band fix to the laziness towards Dev's balancing choices with Map Tiles. Yes, it is stupid for Survivors to lose to a bad killer whom able to gain 5% movement speed in a long chase and secure a hit, despite wasting so much time builting it up. Same argument can be said for any average killer whom has no chance at mindgaming on very strong and connecting map tiles with strong or safe Pallets vs Experience Survivors; whom can constantly loop the killer for 5 gens or even pre drop pallets and still stay alive for 5 gens in competitive sweat SWF teams.

DH is just adding more salt to this imbalance in Survivors sided favoring in more average to high level play; in which it not only extends the chase but gives you a 3rd health chance; completely game changing the way you survive much better in chase, with no "skill" besides a press of a button.

I would be happy and somewhat appreciated, if the Devs not only nerf DH to somewhat removed one of the annoying element ( the slight distance gain) as well as maybe a temporary 1-2 seconds of Incapacitation that somewhat blocks the Survivor's ability to used pallets, windows, etc. Anything to make much more as a temporary invulnerable "dodge" attack perk; and not also a chase extender, as that what Spring Burst and many other exhaustion Perks are supposed to do. (except Head On, a meme best exhaustion perk).

I would also be also downed if they removed Bloodlust too; if they also... do something about Map tiles balance too. We need less strong Map tiles that is very connected with way too many safe pallets; and more dead zone in between. Something that requires less chasing and adds bit hiding too; I want less 2nd chance perks and more perks to allow abit of immersive stealth gameplay that can be viable. Make dead zone a good place to hide, make looping more viable, and pre dropping pallets very risky and dangerous for the Survivors later on.

But, of course, if that cannot be done; then I would gladly sacrifice Bloodlust mechanics for killer, in exchange for removing the Survivors ability to gain a 3 second speed boost upon hit. The "Holding W" meta is proofing my point that the imbalance in Map tile design in flaws because of how strong experience Survivors can used their slight speed boost on hit to easily make to the next tile in timez without being punished for being injured. So I think, it would be a much fair compromise; if they either...

1.) Fix the Map tiles, and Remove Bloodlust;

2.) Don't bother fixing the maps; yet Remove Bloodlust and also Survivor's speed boost on injured.

Dead Hard can be fixed up, and simple just be a 1 time Dodge Exhaustion perk, with no mini speed boost.

Why miss a survivor who has slashed once? Because they believe it will delay repairs. But in reality, they will complete the repair with the injury. They have DH, so they are safe.

I think this game should take the "injured" status more seriously.

Thinking of Dead Hard while sleeping and waking up. A perk, getting under your skin. Kinda sad.

Obviously Bloodlust needs changing. It is only really impactful at Loops which are fair - unsafe Pallets, mindgameable Loops. But those Loops become unfair after 15 seconds when Bloodlust 1 kicks in. Strong Loops with strong Pallets are not really considered for Bloodlust, since the Killer will kick the Pallet anyway.

"I welcome a Sprint Burst gamer. Because if I see him take off at Warp 7, I know to break chase now and I don't get 45 seconds of my time wasted in a chase that ends that I "won" only to have that robbed from me by the "E" key. And if they are 99ing it, it means they are not doing things like totems or generators, so it is whatever."

I really dont understand this. Killers complain about Survivors not being scared of Killers, but it is totally fine for them that a Survivor can sit on a Gen until the very last second and can get into saftey immediatly? Without any form of danger?

If the majority of Survivors switch to Sprint Burst, you will see how much more annoying it is compared to DH. DH can prolong a chase, Sprint Burst can mean that a chase does not even start, because it is not worth to go after that Survivor.

And you can do Gens and, if you want to help the Killer, Totems, while being off Sprint Burst. Because it does not matter if you have it ready or 99ed, the Survivor will be able to use it if the Killer approaches.

But, lets just wait until they nerfed DH into the ground when Killers realize that Sprint Burst is the superior Perk. I will have lots of fun writing: "I told you." in each of those Threads.

Incredible video. Seriously, great work. Ill also say that I got significantly better at survivor when I stopped using dead hard 2 years ago. I didn't want to use it after I got better because it would just rob any sense of accomplishment I would get from outplaying the killer.