Surrender As Killer - Gen Rushing

Your not the only one, I've thrown up the white flag a few times myself.

Oh so you are the equivelant of survivors that give up on first hook.

Fair enough.

Yeah that can happen but again, if you bring corrupt only the gens near you arent blocked so it helps you with that as well.

I feel like im turning into a corrupt salesman at this point : D

I agree, though the difference in perception probably stems from bad games for survivors are over quickly, bad games for killers drag on for the full duration.

Also it’s very common for survivors who out match a killer to stop doing the objective and try and rub it in the killer’s face for as long as possible, killers do this too but even bleed out has a 4min timer.

So again negative experiences on the survivor side end relatively quickly in game but often drag on for killer. The real punishment for survivor is you have a really fast bad game but then wait another 10 mins in queue for another potentially bad fast game.

Does that mean we should remove every tool killers have to eliminate survivors quickly… no because all that does is make bad games for killer drag on even longer.

personally I’ll take any free kills survivors wish to gift me, same if the killer opens the gate I’ll happily leave for them, so we can all just move on as it’s only a game.

That's why I miss old moris, the threat of elimination was very real and made survivor a tense experience.

Sure the scare factor of DBD wears off with exposure, but what creates that fear in the first place is the threat of elimination. Without it, its just an un-scary lackluster game of loopy loop, which makes for a ######### survival horror experience in my opinion.

Every time they water down the threat of elimination to cradle the egos of the "its not fair waah" crowd, the game's horror element takes a hit and it gets less scary and more generally tedious for both sides.

A lot of my survivor games are just gen simulator and then leave, not because I'm good at survivor but rather I either have enough second chances and tools to not worry about injury/dieing or I never see the killer all game anyway.

Its why I like facing nurse, I can't play her to save myself but I like facing her because in the right hands she is scary. A really creepy aesthetic, unnerving sound effects, threatening chase and jump scare potential.

I get where you're coming from, but why is hanging on hook for 4 mins any different from getting mori'd in 4 mins.

Its an elimination game, the threat of elimination is the only thing to worry about, its the whole premise of the game. Without it there is no threat and we all just farm for BP's and leave and everybody wins all the time. Boring.

Would you watch a slasher flick where no body dies and there is no threat whatsoever? Its why most super hero movies kinda suck, there is no threat, no surprises, no stakes, nothing, just mindless action scenes which are just piss boring without stakes to make it meaningful.

The higher the stakes the scarier the game, hence the threat of elimination is essential to DBD, the greater that threat the more intense the game experience.

BUT...

People don't like being eliminated and yet they sign up to play a game based around the premise of elimination and then get annoyed when they are eliminated. It kinda baffles me.

Every time I make this point someone who doesn't get it, mainly because they are the I get annoyed when I get eliminated crowd, says "No one will play a game where loss is guaranteed!" Loss isn't guaranteed but the game experience requires the threat of elimination to be exciting in the first place, the higher that threat, the higher the stakes, the more exciting the game.

I'm starting to wonder if its not a symptom of the "everybody gets a trophy" society we have, where as a kid even if you participate and fail you still get rewarded. No one can deal with loss and everyone expects to win everything all the time or have an equal chance of winning no matter the set up or odds because, they are reared on being rewarded for everything even just participation. (I grew up in this system too but I saw it for what it is).

I'm not saying saying this to be harsh or confronting but maybe you should be playing elden ring instead, because if getting eliminated annoys you then a game like DBD, where elimination is the core mechanic, may not be for you.

Imagine DBD where you just kept respawning as survivor, just imagine it. The actual gameplay of DBD mechanically is as dull as dishwater, the only thing that makes it interesting is the need to avoid death. Its the very theme the game is based on and makes up the central mechanic of the gameplay - "Escape before you die".