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They nerfed Pig's basekit to fix an AFK strat that comes up once every 500 matches??

Triforcer
Triforcer Member Posts: 180
edited May 2022 in General Discussions

Oh Behavior - never change :)

Post edited by Mandy on

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  • YOURFRIEND
    YOURFRIEND Member Posts: 3,389

    Yeah I never saw it. I find it telling that they can nerf this but find it impossible to give her any basic buffs.

  • amazing_grace
    amazing_grace Member Posts: 734

    I think they addressed this issue because it was a clear way of exploiting the game. Was it the best way to fix the problem? That's more debatable, but people knew that this "strat" was cheesy and could get people killed if they were lucky. Even though you never encountered it personally, I had encountered it quite a few times and it didn't help that streamers/youtubers were also doing this "strat" which made it more public or at least made some people think "Oh what fun let me do it too." From survivor side, going against something like this feels really bad because you've been waiting in a queue to play a game but end up maybe dying by chance because you had no way to counter it.

    I will agree though that they could add some small buffs to pig in the process instead of just changing her basekit to fix exploits that not everyone did. It's just a situation where people abused her add-on and now everyone gets punished by them just changing her without her getting proper buffs or QoL changes.

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904

    Largely inconsequential in game meme, results in gross overreaction by players, its the DBD mantra.

  • oxygen
    oxygen Member Posts: 3,387

    If you want to compare it to anything, it's sorta like the reason why they put a cooldown on how often Soul Guard can proc.

    Will you ever get up with soul guard twice in that timespan in anything resembling normal gameplay? No, probably not. But with a team entirely specced into doing that, with WGLF, other healing sources and whatever else, you could get absolute clownfests where people basically got picked up faster than the killer could recover from hitting them.

    Would not changing it impact more than an incredibly tiny amount of matches? No. But it was still the right call to make the change, and the same goes for the Pig change.

  • Steel_Eyed
    Steel_Eyed Member Posts: 4,033
    edited May 2022

    They removed a boring exploit

    Post edited by Mandy on
  • Nameless
    Nameless Member Posts: 869

    Oh no how could the big bad BHVR remove my favorite strategy of standing still in front of a puzzle box!

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,939

    It's a net buff lmao (using maths from @TAG blame them if it's wrong)

    Chance of getting head trap off first box down to 20% (was 25%)

    Chance of needing to use all 4 boxes up to 40% (was 25%)

  • AGM
    AGM Member Posts: 910

    Only in the dbd community would you find people who don't understand basic math and so cry about a "nerf" that's actually a buff.

    Traps are really only designed to kill survivors if they ignore them; their main purpose is to be a waste of time for survivors. Now they're better at that and yet that's a nerf?

    Stop parroting the opinions of the uninformed and pick up a math textbook with a chapter about probabilities please.

    Jack has hidden a marble in one of four boxes. What is the chance you pick the box with the marble on your first try? Assuming you guess incorrectly, what about on your second, third, and fourth tries after you've eliminated an incorrect box on each attempt?

    Now repeat this with five boxes, except after four wrong guesses you automatically get the marble.

    Now factor in the time it takes to travel to each box and search through the box, with a higher likelihood that your search will be fruitless.

    If you can't understand why it's a buff after this I don't know what to tell you that will convince you.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874

    As far as I am aware, my math is only wrong if it turns out that they completely changed the system by, like, adding two keys or switching over to a Trapper RNG system.

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167

    @TAG has done the math and showed it several times around the forum, not a big buff, true, but still a buff.

  • kate_best_girl
    kate_best_girl Member Posts: 2,184

    No its a huge nerf since it automatically activates on the fourth meaning searching each box is easier since they spawn so close together and The Pig can't reasonably apply pressure to waste your time on 5 boxes like she can on 4

  • Crimson_Lockhart
    Crimson_Lockhart Member Posts: 188

    1,920 hours never seen it done

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    Does it surprise you, genuinely? You she gets nerfed every other patch.

  • RisingTron
    RisingTron Member Posts: 508

    Just because you didn't see it doesn't change the fact that it's an exploit that needed to be fixed.

  • Yankus
    Yankus Member Posts: 638

    Face camping bubba is 100x the issue that afk pig ever was yet here we are

  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452
  • Shaped
    Shaped Member Posts: 5,996

    Bubba squeals better than the actual "pig".

    Therefore, nerf pig.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,110

    The difference is, AFK-Pig has to do nothing except for bringing an Add On. Bubba at least has to down someone.

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    Well they buffed her but let's not let that get in the way of the circlejerk ofc