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Crows above head for being idle
But i think the crows shouldn't spawn on your head too soon with too many people alive. Yesterday i played against a camping billy, it was just me and the other survivor. I got close to where he was hooked to block BBQ & Chili since there wasn't really a locker around me. I ended up behind some tires. The Billy just walked in small circles around the hook, i couldn't leave my location or i would be seen. And sure enough, after walking around the tires a couple of times, a crow spawned above my head, i immediately ran, got caught and i was game ended.
This is a situation where crows shouldn't spawn on top of my head. I think it should only spawn on the last survivor within this time. And with more survivors it should take a longer time. The crows really fcked me up that time while i was just playing the game normally.
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I absolutely agree. As long as in you are remaining in the killer's terror radius it shouldn't count as being idle/afk. It happened me once but it could've costed me the game if it wasn't a Trapper (kappa).17
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Trapper lives matter 🙁NurseMainBTW said:I absolutely agree. As long as in you are remaining in the killer's terror radius it shouldn't count as being idle/afk. It happened me once but it could've costed me the game if it wasn't a Trapper (kappa).2 -
I support the AFK crow timer being paused if you're within a certain distance of the Killer (but not based on TR), without any notification that this is occurring. Stealth sometimes requires you to stay hidden and wait for an opportunity to move, and it's not like you can make the Killer leave or look elsewhere by default.
That said, it would need some exceptions, mainly surrounding hatch stand-offs and when there's only one Survivor remaining. Also, Diversion was created exactly for situations like this.
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I've found Diversion works really well on Billy, bubba and Wraith the rest not so much sadly.
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Yes it comes too soon i agree
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I don't have diversion as one of my standard perks, i want to use it a bit more but i'm testing out all kinds of perks.
I think the crows shouldn't appear while someone is on the hook.
The other guy used deliverance to get himself off the hook, and forgot to go into a locker to hide from bbq & chili. But hey, that's the solo player's life, a team who has no idea what's going on.1 -
@powerbats said:
I've found Diversion works really well on Billy, bubba and Wraith the rest not so much sadly.Diversion works on any bad player. But it might work on Doc, because he is playing the Explosion simulator
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I hate survivors that camp together with the killer. In such a case I usually suicide on hook.
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Sorry if I come off a but much here, but...
Why the hell are you there that long??!!
If the killer is camping that hard, and you can't draw them off, just go do something else! #########'a!
Break totems. Do gens. If there is a gen in visual of the killer, do that. Break a totem in visual range!
Further our progress to escape so either my sacrifice isn't in vain, or I don't have to survive any longer than I have to!
The killer might even know you're there! Why would a killer that hasn't left before, leave all of a sudden?
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Jezus Christ, i expected that killers don't camp a guy when there is only 1 other survivor left with 2 gens to go. That's just useless. Even if the guy gets unhooked, there is no way we can get 2 gens done and it's so easy for billy to just go back to the hook and follow the scratchmarks.Rebel_Raven said:Sorry if I come off a but much here, but...
Why the hell are you there that long??!!
If the killer is camping that hard, and you can't draw them off, just go do something else! #########'a!
Break totems. Do gens. If there is a gen in visual of the killer, do that. Break a totem in visual range!
Further our progress to escape so either my sacrifice isn't in vain, or I don't have to survive any longer than I have to!
The killer might even know you're there! Why would a killer that hasn't left before, leave all of a sudden?
If i left my position, i was out in the open. I literally couldn't leave so i was just hoping for the best.2 -
I agree, in those situations the crows should be nerfed, there are times when I shouldn't get a crow but get one anyway.
After this, the crows should be buffed. If you are the last survivor remaining alive, after a certain period of time, a crow should appear on top of your head in order to prevent game hostage situations. I don't think it should give sound notifications to the killer but just so that when you are close, you can hear the crow as a killer.
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Can't really agree as it was your choice that lead to being pinned to the spot. Shouldn't matter if it was close to the killer or not, fear of being seen isn't a reason for being able to stay put beyond afk timer.0
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If a killer isn't moving for a bit, they probably won't at all until the kill is secured.Broosmeister said:
Jezus Christ, i expected that killers don't camp a guy when there is only 1 other survivor left with 2 gens to go. That's just useless. Even if the guy gets unhooked, there is no way we can get 2 gens done and it's so easy for billy to just go back to the hook and follow the scratchmarks.Rebel_Raven said:Sorry if I come off a but much here, but...
Why the hell are you there that long??!!
If the killer is camping that hard, and you can't draw them off, just go do something else! #########'a!
Break totems. Do gens. If there is a gen in visual of the killer, do that. Break a totem in visual range!
Further our progress to escape so either my sacrifice isn't in vain, or I don't have to survive any longer than I have to!
The killer might even know you're there! Why would a killer that hasn't left before, leave all of a sudden?
If i left my position, i was out in the open. I literally couldn't leave so i was just hoping for the best.
Billy probably forgot to slug to prevent the hatch play on top of that.
Speaking of, you couldn't go for the hatch? I'd want you to go find the hatch if it were me hooked and being secure kill camped.
If you play stealthy you're going to be hard to find. Killers have terrible eyesight. You might be surprised at what you can get away with.
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I litterally had a game go on for twenty minutes after third survivor was killed, and only one gen and all totems were done. No crows. I looked everywhere, listened for the caws, patrolled the gens that remained untouched, there was no sign of the last survivor. After twenty minutes, one of the spectating survivors started messaging me, telling me that the last player had been hiding in the same locker the whole time, and bragging to the survivor group in chat that he'd get me to rage quit and get a loss. In the end he told me which locker to look in, and I secured the final kill.
I don't know if AFK crows are bugged on PS4, but I have had several situations like this, and I can only remember a single time where I spotted some crows circling in the distance, helping me find the last survivor.
Long story short, I'd like to see the crows working properly, before seeing a nerf.
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You should have left and do gens. Don't blame the poor birds for your mistakesBroosmeister said:I completely get the purpose of the crows above your head when you're AFK or just sitting in a corner / locker for too long.
But i think the crows shouldn't spawn on your head too soon with too many people alive. Yesterday i played against a camping billy, it was just me and the other survivor. I got close to where he was hooked to block BBQ & Chili since there wasn't really a locker around me. I ended up behind some tires. The Billy just walked in small circles around the hook, i couldn't leave my location or i would be seen. And sure enough, after walking around the tires a couple of times, a crow spawned above my head, i immediately ran, got caught and i was game ended.
This is a situation where crows shouldn't spawn on top of my head. I think it should only spawn on the last survivor within this time. And with more survivors it should take a longer time. The crows really fcked me up that time while i was just playing the game normally.0 -
I love it when they do that. Makes the rest of the match a lot easier when I play as killer. It hurts the rest of the survivors morale tooSlayer said:
I hate survivors that suicide on hook because something didnt go their way . You ended up on hook you dont have right to complain how you suppose to get savedMaster said:I hate survivors that camp together with the killer. In such a case I usually suicide on hook.
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I think they should make it so that crows don't spawn when you are close to the killer/inside the terror radius.
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Sounds like a very specific situation that could have been avoided.1
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It doesn't need to be specific. What if you sit in a corner around a generator you were working on and you get one of those killers who patrol that gen so heavily that you can't leave your spot.ClogWench said:Sounds like a very specific situation that could have been avoided.
What if you do a locker juke and the killer keeps circling the area around the locker you're in?
It's just unlogical for the crows to spawn so quickly and without being the last survivor too1 -
@NurseMainBTW said:
I absolutely agree. As long as in you are remaining in the killer's terror radius it shouldn't count as being idle/afk. It happened me once but it could've costed me the game if it wasn't a Trapper (kappa).The problem with using the TR is that not all killers have the same radius (plus perks alter range). This would still cause inconsistent idle times and not completely fix the problem.
The situation the OP mentioned (I agree it sucks) is a rare occurrence and can easily be avoided by positioning yourself better. I know the OP said they were trying to avoid the detection of BBQ but you can use gen auras, lockers, or simply get within radius (its much larger than you realize). It sounds like the OP made a poor choice in hiding where he/she did and although it would be nice for the game to realize he/she wasn't actually AFK I don't feel this is a fix the team needs to be focusing right now. Heaven knows they have a lot more to fix first...
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It's true that it's my mistake to hide where i was hiding. But it shouldn't be a fatal mistake. And because of the crows it was.MegaWaffle said:@NurseMainBTW said:
I absolutely agree. As long as in you are remaining in the killer's terror radius it shouldn't count as being idle/afk. It happened me once but it could've costed me the game if it wasn't a Trapper (kappa).The problem with using the TR is that not all killers have the same radius (plus perks alter range). This would still cause inconsistent idle times and not completely fix the problem.
The situation the OP mentioned (I agree it sucks) is a rare occurrence and can easily be avoided by positioning yourself better. I know the OP said they were trying to avoid the detection of BBQ but you can use gen auras, lockers, or simply get within radius (its much larger than you realize). It sounds like the OP made a poor choice in hiding where he/she did and although it would be nice for the game to realize he/she wasn't actually AFK I don't feel this is a fix the team needs to be focusing right now. Heaven knows they have a lot more to fix first...
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I think it should stay how it is, you put yourself there. Should’ve tried to find an opening xD
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How is it fair that a killer who is not even trying to look for a survivor to find a survivor because of some stupid crows while someone is hooked?KiraElijah said:I think it should stay how it is, you put yourself there. Should’ve tried to find an opening xD
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I have to disagree. There is no situation where you get a crow over your head that you didn't deserve it. There is no "solution" to the problem because there is no problem. Any so called solution you come up with would make the game worse.
Even in the scenario described by the OP, there were other options available. For instance you could have hidden in a locker to hide your aura from BBQ. Or you could have positioned yourself better while being close enough not to trigger BBQ. The range from the hook is pretty lenient really.
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@Broosmeister said:
KiraElijah said:I think it should stay how it is, you put yourself there. Should’ve tried to find an opening xD
How is it fair that a killer who is not even trying to look for a survivor to find a survivor because of some stupid crows while someone is hooked?
It takes 60 seconds for the first crow to appear. If you cannot find a way out before that, I see no issue with the spawn.
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Honestly as douchey as it sounds it just seems like it was incredibly bad positioning on your part.
I don't think you should get leniency because you positioned yourself in a spot where you couldn't move because of The Killers Patrol0 -
I really dont mind idle crows...until I have to take a pee break. I just duck into a locker, and when I get back there's ALWAYS idle crows. I am usually only gone for about 30-40 seconds. It's ridiculous.
Doesn't help that I have a medical condition which caused frequent urination....
*le sigh*
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Holy thread revival!
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Just use a bottle like a reasonable person, gosh
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