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Dear 5gen slug-til-dead Nurse players, why?

JaviiMii
JaviiMii Member Posts: 286

I'd ask in post game chat - but I ain't gonna stick around 10+ minutes to do that. So I figured to ask here.

Is it a meme thing?

Answers

  • Marc_123
    Marc_123 Member Posts: 3,597

    Oh, i got one of these on Midwich.

    Short game...

    Maybe they just wanna show their godlike domination skills.

  • Bartlaus
    Bartlaus Member Posts: 1,027

    Maybe the survivors complained too much about camping and tunneling? Idk.

    I did this once in my DBD career but only because I had a bug with Trapper on swamp so I couldn't pick up survivors.

  • Lekitzul
    Lekitzul Member Posts: 495

    I always wondered why that is such a thing with nurses honestly.

  • vanGlasse1
    vanGlasse1 Member Posts: 295

    I don't like them and wish them a very unpleasant night filled with mosquitoes and heat.

    Now seriously this is the most unfun playstyle in my opinion, even worse than camping or tunelling per say. Like, you want to do a speed run? At this game? So everyone gets little to nothing in Bloodpoints (the killer included) and deranks/depips? God damn it, how are you in bed as well? Focused on finishing it all as soon as possible regardless if it is fun to both (or more) sides? Is "1 min at most" your life motto?

    It feels like one of those games were you play using all the cheats to insta kill, never die, infinite ammo, etc (not saying that this makes the killer a cheater). Sure, you CAN do it, but in the end what did you prove at all? Nobody's going to stand up and give you a round of applause for it and certainly this won't bring your father back after he left you upon finding out you were a scumbag that plays in such a way. And I mean the very same to any Blight that plays this same way with the most boosted crap of perks and addons.

  • Lekitzul
    Lekitzul Member Posts: 495

    I know. I had a Nurse literally just down everyone who tried to get someone off the ground. We literally were all slugs before the 1st gen. Just let us lay there, didn't even TRY for a single hook. That's just so... boring?

  • Kamikazi
    Kamikazi Member Posts: 144
    edited June 2022

    I've not had that happen to me too often. It sounds like a killer protesting at all the bugs, glitches, toxicity, hackers, and "supposed bugs and glitches". Maybe Nurse saw one of the 4 survivors crouch rapidly, or someone tried to flashlight blind her at the start of match. Be nicer gamers without all the toxicity and maybe you wouldn't get slugged till death? If killer doesn't want you to rescue a survivor off the ground, they are probably letting you do gens while punishing the toxicity of a single survivor. They could crawl away. You could complete all 5 gens before three other survivors bleed out.

    It takes over 7 minutes to bleed out while in the dying state. Its not a quick match, so that can't be their point. It's not always quicker than hooking all the slugs. Really seems more like a killer getting revenge on ANY survivors after having had a lot of built up toxicity from survivors.

    As Nurse I've wiped weaker players incredibly quickly on hooks, but unhooks can take away an almost guaranteed win, cause then they hide. Not hooking is more of a Demonstration of Power. The difference is points vs not allowing survivors to try to be the under dog. It's possible they want to win but not be punished by SBMM for winning. Meaning it's possible that SBMM had them in toxic unfun matches, probably against constant hackers.

    The solution is simple: Don't be toxic. Next: Bring a perk to recover from the dying state, like: Unbreakable; No Mither; Soul Guard; etc. And before you say that you weren't toxic, remember there are 3 other survivors. And the previous match had 4 survivors.

    I'm not going to say its boring to see the survivors all dress the exact same, or bring all the same perks. But if you can't be bothered with one player to have Unbreakable, maybe you survivors are the boring ones. Come prepared. There are only a few perks that can change a match, everything else only gives an advantage.

    As a side note, most good killers I've encountered are not great survivors, and the other survivors can be more toxic to these under skilled survivors when they try to keep up with archives/etc. As far as toxic survivors going, I've had toxic survivors try to steal my tools; leave me to die on hook right next to them; refuse to rescue even after I've lead a great chase; body block me so I get downed or instant sacrificed; etc; etc; etc. (Killers see these actions and may take pity on weaker but non-toxic survivors.) The point here being that you survivors need to stop being toxic to everybody at all. And if you see toxicity from survivor to survivor, you should try to stop their hate spreading.

    Hate, like happiness, is a seed planted.

  • JaviiMii
    JaviiMii Member Posts: 286

    While I appreciate your pov there are an awful lot of assumptions in there. - Then again it is your pov and if that's what makes you a death-slugging nurse then it's sad that you had those experiences and I wish you all the best that in the future you have less such experiences.

    I kinda don't want to get into the whole toxicity debate because that's really not what this is about. Granted, I did ask as a blanket question and sure, there are most likely different reasons for why a nurse player would do that kinda stuff - one of them being what you outlined. Though, that, to me, seemed not like the best go-to explanation since it was kinda crossing a line for me and I thought "surely there is more to it...?" - hence the question here. I had kinda hoped that there is some kind of meme thing going around or that one of the dbd content creators did some video on a slug build / strategy or whatever and people gave it a go just for the heck of it. But since that hasn't come up it doesn't seem like it. Which is kinda sad. Because I'm not a fan of collective punishment; the whole "because some player playing the other side did something some other time I gonna take it out on these ones now" kinda train of thought. Y know, an eye for an eye until the whole world is blind. Really not a fan.

  • Kamikazi
    Kamikazi Member Posts: 144


    I'm not a death slugging Nurse. I used to be a killer with skill that could take down players without slugging and tunneling, but this arms race by BHVR has left nothing for honor. Its kill or get wasted. Archives push you to win, which punishes you for winning by increasing your SBMM jumping your SBMM significantly higher, making it harder and harder territory. I've fought against too many hackers in 2021, but 2022 was incredibly bad so far. (No noticeable hackers for the last 2 days, strangely enough.)

    It actually is about toxicity. It never seems to stop. Stop your butt dances. Stop your clicks. This justifies negativity in return.

    Slugging is kind of a meme... to show power.

    Just remember that a Nurse that powerfully skilled, probably remembers all the toxicity from years prior. You'll have to catch them when they are happy. Only way to do that is to be nice first. There's been countless times I was given hatch cause the killer said I was the only one not toxic. Clicking your flashlight 'once' could trigger them.

    Also... if a killer shakes their head no to me, my killer mind tells me that downed survivor was being toxic. And part of me wants to rescue as a challenge, but part of me wants to respect the killer was getting toxicity from that survivor. Its a hard choice, cause you never know why killer's are actually shaking their head. It's even harder to want to respect their wishes, since they should be trying to kill you too.

    In my past, the only time I let up on survivors is if they don't seem to know whats going on, or when I was trying to create a higher score (for events such as Adept). I'll hook if there is nothing else to do. I won't hook if a survivor is near but unaccounted for.

  • JaviiMii
    JaviiMii Member Posts: 286

    You clearly had to get something off your chest, which is fair enough - I just wished you didn't hijack a thread for that.

    Like I said, while I know some bad experience(s) prior to our match may have lead the Nurse to go for a 5gen death-slug move I wholeheartedly disagree with a "this [negativity] justifies negativity in return" mindset. It is kinda sad if that is really all there is to it.

  • Kamikazi
    Kamikazi Member Posts: 144

    That movie was pretty good.

    You state "justifies". I state "causes". Its a chain reaction, like all things. But if you insist its a meme, I guess I have to start slugging as Nurse now. Seems fitting you falsely claim the victim as 'hijacked'. Keep slugging on toxic boi. Ggs, you perpetuated a meme.

  • JaviiMii
    JaviiMii Member Posts: 286
    edited June 2022

    .....I'm fairly certain we're not on the same page here and since your tone strikes me as not particularily constructive I'll leave it at that.

    That being said: You clearly had your bad experiences and I sicnerely hope you have wholesome experiences in your future matches. Have a nice evening :)

  • Kamikazi
    Kamikazi Member Posts: 144

    I think about what makes people go. I had one other thought about it last night. It's got to be the only let up from stress, those 7 minutes of perfectly heavenly successful bliss. No more chases. No more anything. 7 minutes of silence. Once that ends, its back to the grind. As my friends say, "Good luck in your next matches!" <3