Micheal Myers slander will be tolerated no more ...

...Oni runs out of his power afteruse,

...Plague runs out of her power afteruse.

...Trickster runs out of his power afteruse, (can still reload but still)

...Huntress runs out of her power afteruse (Same thing with trickster)

...Piggy can run out of RBT,

He was a great man.

Nor should slander be tolerated.

Oni regains his powers hitting people

Plague either regains her powers when people cleanse OR she gets a secondary power where everyone is now permanently injured

Trickster can reload his power

Huntress can reload her power

Pig also is hot trash but even she still at least can go stealthy and do the dash attack

Mike runs out of stalker juice and now it sucks to be him. He has no secondary power. He has no way to reload his power. When he is out of stalker juice, Mike is now out of power

I sure would. Mikey is nowhere near as bad as some claim. That's not to say he couldn't use some buffs because he definitely could (but then so could 95% of the killer roster). But the worst? Not even a contender for that.

To the discussion about how he can run out of his power. Technically that is true. But if you've maxed out your stalk and most of the survivors are still alive then I'm sorry but you've been playing very badly. If you're playing Mikey properly then most of the team should be dead by the time you cannot pop any more tier 3's.

He’s S tier, he’s just not good. That doesn’t make him bad though.

He counters Dead Hard so he must be good :D

Michael is a poopy doo doo pee pee head. He make pee pee in the sandbox and is scared of kittens.

Idk why people take tier list placements for their favorite killer so personally.

Myers is just a weaker than average killer when we compare all the killers together. Yes Tomestone Piece is broken, but that doesn't really change Myers without it.

Can't forget about plague,

If they even bother cleansing...

(Only killer in the game that gets her power taken away from her entirely, only bad part about 'er..)

I'm saying in general...

If survivors know you're a plague, one of two things will happen,

1. They won't cleanse and if they Have to, they'll do it at the furthest point, making it null and cucking you if you're in a 3 gen situation,
2. soon as you get your power, they'll bait the pallets and or if they're sneaky bois, they can wait behind a pallet if you don't know and slamming it on you, not only jumpscaring you but now you got no red vommy anymore,

and after all of that, she's still a basic 115% killer,

This bait is relevant to my interests, so I'm taking it.

Your loadout determines Michael's tier. Basekit with no addons (or with any of his worthless addons, which are plentiful) can make him D or C-tier. Tombstone Piece + stalk addons is an S-tier build if you focus on hooking 2-3 survivors and mori the other 1-2, but you are not going to get many bloodpoints with that build no matter how well you play it. Scratched Mirror build is at least a B-tier, maybe A or S with a Lery's offering. Stalk addons + Hair Bow can be B-tier.

Michael also has more perks that synergize with his power and addons in massive ways than any other killer:

M&A + Dead Rabbit + Vanity Mirror is an S-tier build, and I don't know why nobody else has picked up on this one in particular. M&A + Dead Rabbit is A to S-tier on its own, as it means no terror radius with no speed penalty or reduced lunge, and with the right perks and addons (especially VM and Nurse's), it can be almost impossible to win against.

Infinite T3 with 25% stalk addon is A-tier on its own, but add Bambooze (which not only blocks windows, but increases Michael's already speedy T3 lunge) and Coup de Grace (which can deny Dead Hard in T3 due to Michael's already massive lunge, which I recently made a post about, and also throws off survivors' timing to such a degree that it ends multiple chases early per game), and it's an S-tier build.

Yeah, there's a reason why they rarely buff Michael despite people constantly saying that he's weak, and the reason is because he's one of highest-performing killers statistically.

That is an F-tier build, though. Infinite T3 mori is objectively worse than basekit. If you're actually trying to win games consistently, Tombstone Piece is much better, but the tradeoff is that you can depip with 5K bloodpoints despite getting a 4K (or at least it seems that way).

Yeah, but aren't you at super-high MMR, to the point where you only have instawin bots as opponents whenever a new wave of them gets unleashed into the game?

The fact that you still see Michael enough to have an opinion says everything. Back during the old matchmaking system, he was one of the only M1 killers who could perform well at red ranks with sweat enough play.

Pig's dash attack sucks. I agree that her basekit is stronger than Myers, but when all builds of both killers are considered, Mikey is stronger.

Trickster just sucks in general, and Myers will outperform him consistently.

The other killers you listed are stronger than Michael on average, but he still has builds that are stronger than anything they can do.

I almost never run out of "stalker juice" on Michael unless I'm running something ridiculous like a Tombstone Piece build, and then half the team is already dead by the time I do. It's almost impossible to completely stalk everyone while playing another build; game's over before you even get close.

If you use DR+M&A, your TR is even lower.

I don't know if I've ever run completely out of stalk while there was more than one survivor left in the game while running a normal build. If you have Hair Bow, it's not even an issue.

Good thing this never happens in real-world scenarios.

This.

However, Trickster was at least D-tier when he was first released, and Trapper is D-tier. When taking other factors (like build and platform into account), other killers can also reach this low. Old Legion was D-tier with the wrong build (B-tier or above with the right one). D-tier is a thing, but Mikey isn't on it unless you're running him with no perks and no addons (and then ut's debatable).

Yeah, but if you have more than 100 hours yourself, you're going to realize that when they start trying to deny you stalk, you either use the opportunity to get a free hit and/or hook, find someone else, or... just keep stalking since the math still works out in your favor if you're close enough.

Also, in my experience, survivors who think that they're denying you stalk typically think they're being more effective than they are. You can sometimes stalk them at weird angles or (in rare cases) obstacles that they're trying to hide behind, and, no, trying to run me in circles around a pallet doesn't affect me - the closer you are, the more stalk I get, so this is still as effective as stalking you from a distance without interruption even if I'm only getting stalk 50-75% of the time we're running around in circles.

When it comes to stalk, there really isn't much the survivors can do once you've found them. Your enemy is RNG. If they all spawn next to the farthest two gens with toolboxes and they're the last ones you check, it could be a rough match.

Michael has several incredibly broken builds (see my first couple of paragraphs). Most people just don't think about those because Otz doesn't ever make videos about them. (Every tier list, he talks about TP and nothing else and then dismisses Mike as the worst killer in the game.)

As a Michael main, I'm not very likely to run a TP build because of the low BP you get out of it even if you win. Also, the other S-tier Michael builds are probably better, anyway, because you have to get a lot of stalk to get just one kill out of TP.

This. Don't pop your T3 unless and until you're about to get a hit. They'll occasionally manage to get away from you somehow for a few seconds, anyway, but if you didn't 100% your T3 until you were on top of them, you still won't have wasted it.

Yes, you will be eating a lot of pallets with Michael, but if you know the difference between safe and unsafe pallets, and you destroy the safe ones immediately instead of trying to play around them (also remember to stalk survivors who stand at dropped pallets), the entire map becomes unsafe pretty quickly. You only have to deal with that crap for one or two extended chases, and then it's a survivor slaughter factory.

Slowdown is very important on Michael, though, yeah. You're going to want to be running Ruin/Undying and/or Deadlock/Merciless and/or Brine/Pop with most builds, especially ones that rely on addons that increase his stalk time.

That's why you dont pop it off the bat, you do it when you're up their back, no way they'll dodge it =D

They still haven't fixed the spots you can stalk through =D they were bugged at first but it's fixed now

Tis why corrupt also helps with this,

The main Perks i use on Michael are as Follows: Ruin (if this perk even last 30 damn seconds ffs) Pop Bam Monitor, with DR and J Myers, has been my go-to build, unless im bored and wanna mori everyone, then it's: PWYF Noed Corrupt and a random perk of choice, =D

I had 6 bot games in a day yes

Legion can be put off their power by being stunned. And Oni don't need to injure anyone to get power. Just to gens that have been worked on, for example. Survivor actions release blood orbes.

Plague prevents people from healing, rendering med kits useless; they are also noisy and dangerous to others as they will infect windows, pallets, lockers and gens, which can affect others, plus you just need a buñit of puke to set a timer on the survivors until they are broken. And then if they cleanse, they power you up. And if every single fountain is used, you can't go collect your power in any of them but you get it immediately for free at the moment it happens.

The pig can lose her power for the rest of the game, but RNG can play on your favor, as you don't need to be chasing survivors to get them killed, and every time you scare them and they let go of the box, they need to restart.

None of this makes this killers better, specially pig, but one has to be fair to what the powers do.

Sure they can. :D

Technically, Oni Needs to atleast get A hit, it won't go up to 100% fully by itself, so you still need a hit reguardless,

also survivors won't release blood orbs if they haven't been injured yet,

Plague is still a basic m1 killer though, people tend to forget this, yes she Does prevent healing but doesn't mean you can cleanse, and if you're already broken, you'll be already pre-running before she gets close to you so you can make it to another loop and whatnot,

Pig is pure rng, you can get more cucked than useful with it almost all the time, (that or rng is a hassle)

Personally, never was a big fan of undying, i haven't tried merciless, deadlock works wonders but it doesn't affect multiple gens at once which is a huge downside, since it only locks One that's "Close" to being done, ffs...

Pfh, 4 claudettes in the wild hiding in bushes that blend in would like to have a word with you,

Yeah, staying hidden while you move towards survivors is a must, although Spine Chill can be annoying, especially if the whole team's running it.

I've tried Pop with Brine as a replacement for the Ruin/Undying combo, but I wouldn't run it on its own, just because his mobility is such crap. Running Brine with Pop usually means that you get at least an extra 10-15% on top of Pop's 25, but it's still as much of a gamble as Ruin/Undying, since bad generator placement can mean that you aren't easily able to keep kicking enough gens and still keep chasing people. On the other hand, consciously employing a 3-gen strategy with that combo can be absolutely devastating.

Surveillance also works really well with Ruin/Undying on Michael since it gives you great information.

Combining Ruin/Undying or Brine/Pop with Deadlock/Merciless can be brutal.

Against excellent survivors who can hit every great skill check with surgical precision, you might not get anything out of Merciless, but even good survivors will usually miss at least once if they're surprised. Which is why it's a terrible perk on Sadako, since almost every Sadako player runs it, it seems like, and even I'll manage to get through a couple of gens without missing a check if I know it's coming.

If two survivors are working on the same gen when it triggers, there's almost a 100% chance that it's going to activate.

Also, you don't necessarily have to rely on them missing the checks on their own. If you run it with something like Tinkerer and manage to time it right so that you're chasing them off the gen while it's active, it'll give you the extra slowdown regardless.

It can be outplayed, but it's not like Overcharge where you've got a 75% chance of it never activating once against decent survivors. If every survivor misses one out of the 20 skill checks thrown at them, it's done enough to make it worth it.

Also, while we're on the subject, Brine with Dragon's Grip can be really effective, just because DG scares some survivors into waiting a while before trying to work on a gen again. I usually run that combo on Sadako.