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Small idea to buff Legion's M1 and nerf his Frenzy spam at the same time

No_Mither_No_Problem
No_Mither_No_Problem Member Posts: 1,476
edited January 2019 in General Discussions

Replace pallet vaulting with pallet breaking, and remove the timer pause while vaulting.

It's a very simple change that will help make Legion less unfun to play against but also buff him. As a rank 1 Legion main, his power is best used in a chase for forcing pallets to BREAK them, not to CIRCUMVENT them. By removing his ability to essentially neglect pallets, his unfun Frenzy spam is nerfed, but his ability to punish as a 110 Killer, something he direly needs to actually be effective, is greatly increased.

Legion has a similar mob mentality issue that Freddy has. People think you have to tunnel with the guy and spam Frenzy like a braindead spaz, but that couldn't be further from the truth. By turning Legion towards a direction of using Frenzy as a pressure power and not as a chase-winning power, Legion can be stronger as whole, have a higher skill ceiling with more room for counterplay, and, more importantly, more people would realize these facts.

Comments

  • Crackgear
    Crackgear Member Posts: 279
    lets show them what we got 
  • Crackgear
    Crackgear Member Posts: 279
    edited January 2019

    lets do this...!!
  • TigerKirby215
    TigerKirby215 Member Posts: 604

    That really removes Legion's identity as a Killer. At that point they're basically a ######### Hillbilly.

  • Ryuhi
    Ryuhi Member Posts: 3,895

    Interesting. So Legion can fast vault/vault pallets while in normal mode, and has to break pallets/ killer vault windows while in frenzy? That would actually address a good bit of both his lack of counterplay and improve his lethality a bit. If you think about it thematically, it would basically mean that while in normal mode they follow the same rules as survivors, and while in frenzy they're more monstrous (like the killers,) which is pretty fitting.

    It would definitely have to be tested to see if/how it breaks things for either side, though.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited January 2019

    They just need to give him full move speed, get rid of the "follow the blood backwards cheese strat" and not deplete his power on M1.

    That's it.

    Then his ability is used to create pressure and slow the survivors down and they are forced to heal because he can actually run them down if they don't with his normal M1.

  • No_Mither_No_Problem
    No_Mither_No_Problem Member Posts: 1,476
    Blueberry said:

    They just need to give him full move speed, get rid of the "follow the blood backwards cheese strat" and not deplete his power on M1.

    That's it.

    Then his ability is used to create pressure and slow the survivors down and they are forced to heal because he can actually run them down if they don't with his normal M1.

    If they make him a 115 Killer then they need to remove the ability to down with Frenzy entirely, not just the moonwalk. Besides, Feral Frenzy is terrible at creating pressure because the distance you can cover to chain hits is deceptively minute and mending takes very little time. I would love to discuss an entire rework I had in mind, but all the Frank’s Mixtape Frenzy-spamming rank 10 Legion mains would shun me into Oblivion.
  • Infectious1X
    Infectious1X Member Posts: 9
    I actually think this is a neat idea. I have absolutely no idea how it would play out, but I definitely wouldn’t mind a PTB with these changes just to test it.