Don't lie please, the MMR it's not by killer?
Because I play the new killer or an old one is the same kind of games, my MMR is not good, I am with players too strong for my level
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It's because the matchmaking servers are literally coded to ignore MMR if Survivors wait too long, because ######### new killer players
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I swear you're right. The survivors I go against with killers I barely play are the same difficulty as the ones who I play against when I'm using my very best killers.
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Because there is like 1 killer for 300 survivors
I wonder why there are so few killers nowadays... thats a real mystery there
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I can honestly say I've never once felt a difference jumping from my best killers to something I never play.
I'm a Pig main so I'm pretty decent with playing M1, but even picking up something like Dredge I'm just getting curbstomped by sweat squads over and over. I thought the point of MMR was largely so you COULD play something new and not face the grossest players out there, but apparently not.
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To be fair, that's not really an issue with the matchmaker. You shouldn't be waiting 15 minutes for a Survivor lobby.
It's an issue with the game itself that nobody wants to play Killer.
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If you buy a new killer, its personal MMR won't be 0 obviously because you're not playing the game for the first time. It'll be averaged and slightly lower than your other killers MMR.
That being said, especially in the evening there are a lot more survivor players because more people are out of work/school and they obviously want to socialize and play with friends. Therefore, queues are longer and the matchmaker has to give them a trial sooner or later.
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Never has been. And even if it was, the matchmaking in this made it pointless. Only thing that came out with it is killer locked in lobby, cannot be changed like survivor
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Why not? It's a product of their own making after all.
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It was all a scam to protect SWFs from killers who switched to Nurse/Blight/Bubba
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Because if your highest rated killer is well above the softcap, chances are, that your averaged MMR for the new killer may also be above it, thus matching you with basically the same player as your mains.
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Your rarely played/never played killers MMR is based on your best killer but slightly lower. Now I believe (but not sure) that the first time you play a killer it effectively stamps your current MMR on that killer. Then it adjusts to how you play that killer.
I am the probably in the bottom 5 worst Huntresses (EU) but I do still sometimes play her. There is no way my Huntress MMR is even at the starter MMR level, so at any time I can (and do) effectively test whether MMR is working or not. Every time I play Huntress I am against the default Dwights and Claudette's that clearly lost all their first few matches. My stubbonness to keep trying to hit people with hatchets on a controller means that usually 2 or more will escape, lowering my Huntress MMR even more.
I only disagree with your title though. MMR IS working by killer, but it just doesn't lower you enough for new killers.
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It's not the Survivors fault that BHVR has encouraged anti-fun games.
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They keep demanding they nerf B tier killers. It really is their own doing.
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Sadly as others have said this is a population issue that is affecting MMR. I find if you avoid prime time the MMR works quite well even with new killers. Surprising no one, people want to play with their friends during weekends and you can't play killer with friends unless you make your own lobby with 5 people.
To make matter worse looks like this will be an issue going forward, the 6TH-anniversary steam said players will receive a blood point bonus for queueing as a certain role(aka killer most of the time). This doesn't really solve any issue at all-cause most players are not really having any issue with blood points.
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Especially not when there is a swf farming of the baby killers X_X, why would one of them switch to killer.
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wait, was the different mmr for each killer removed again?
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No, But as Comsmic Paragon was saying if people que too long they get a match regardless of MMR.
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Ahh that explains why, sometimes I get constant fair matches, then on a different day, I get completly stomped
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At peak times there’s not enough killers. It’s as simple as that really. Generally as well if you play killer frequently then pick up a new killer for the first time you will do well simply because you understand the basics of killer gameplay even if you haven’t mastered their power yet. However progressing your killer MMR is very quick in my experience. A couple of wins with your brand new killer and your MMR will easily be catching up to where it is with your best killers.
I am also curious about how SWF MMR is determined in these situations as whenever I face one of these groups playing as a killer I never/hardly touch it’s clear there is always one weak link both in terms of skill but also their perks and this is in contrast to the other 2/3 players who generally come fully stacked with flashlights and play with much more skill.
I’m guessing the system takes an average of the SWF to find an appropriate killer but based on my experience this is wrong and really the matchmaking should be based on the highest ranked player rather than an average. Yes, one survivor might be a potato but they have the advantage of playing with friends on comms which is a strong counter in their favour.
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To be honest I think that every killer should lobby dodge pre-made lobbies until BHVR disable this. There is a very high chance that pre-made lobbies are either going to stomp you or you are going to stomp them. Both scenarios are unacceptable.
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Dont forget new killers get placed near your highest mmr killer so if you're a god nurse for example your new killer will be X rating below that.
Also no one wants to play killer so itll just throw you in alot of matches or throw random survivor in etc.
I dunno what people expect with a such a bad SBMM and balancing for bad players but there we go
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Get a daily for someone I shrined the perks for so I don't waste BP on a killer I won't play and I get a ttv flashlight squad within a minute. Went afk in a corner instead of watching them dance on the other side of a pallet after the third gen of chasing and being chased. They stuck around for 20 minutes while I watched youtube. I should've just quit the match because I didn't care to play another after that.
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They are separate. I purposefully keep some of my killers low mmr for dailies while my main is high mmr.
If you kill survivors your mmr is going up and it can go up without limit. The matchmaking top level is not the max your mmr score can go. To go even one point below this matchmaking limit could take you many loss matches.
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Oh, but it is!
The real problem is that the current matchmaking system is so ridiculously bad at giving us "balanced" matches that subjectively, it feels all over the place. You can 4k 10 games in a row sweating your balls off and then get a complete breeze where you 12 hook the entire team at five gens remaining with no DCing or giving up on hook. Unless BHVR changes how your SBMM is calculated, and they won't, your trials will never make sense.
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I don't think it was ever a thing. Since they "implemented" it i never saw a difference between playing my main or trying out a new killer for the first time
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There has always been less killer players than survivor ones and will always be. No asymmetrical game would be able to survive otherwise. It's basic maths.
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