Why is facecamping with the cannibal still a thing? Why are devs ignoring it?

you see, it's for post like your that keep the bubba camp meme going on... if you complained it means that it worked... just don't give it too much importance and take kindred, for me it works perfectly

from what I know killers would like to change survivors gameplay too... You can actually change your gameplay with perks tho. 

I wouldn't say it's trash overall. That would mean it's hard / bad for them, which is true for soloQ for sure. I have played only SWF, so survivor side seems easy and boring to me instead.

I don't mind tunneling, that means I get to have chase, which is most fun thing.

Camping is not really an issue for us neither, everyone in our group use BT and we just trade hooks if needed.

That is not possible for soloQ of course.

New perk Angry Camper -When Killer Stands near hooks grants immunity to Survivor against Killer chainsaw attack for 1,1.5 and 2 seconds.

-Deactivates if more then one survivor is near by during the rescue

-Also grants %1 to repair and healing speed for the remainder of the trial (stacks for each camp rescue)

Losing to a gen rush doesn't feel that bad tho, it just means you have zero pressure and you get no value out of your perks but at least you still get to play the game.

Dying on first hook in solo queue because you're facecamped and your mates are afraid/can't save you is far more frustrating, lot of players just DC or suicide on hook when it happens it's so lame, and if you DC you get the penalty not the killer

I see where you're coming from. But my point is: More incentives to actually leave the hook as a killer = less facecamping. At least in theory. It's always a killer's obejctive to kill survivors. The issue is that facecamping is a better and easier to execute strategy than playing the game normally in many cases.

So overall your suggestion is to ban people for playing in a way that you don't like? Imagine if the survivors got banned for doing the gens too fast or finishing it in the killer's face because they don't like it. It's basically the same. One side is unhappy with how the other side played.

That might kill the game entirely as it would punish survivors just as much as killers. Killers getting banned (even temporary) = less people playing killer = longer queue times for survivors = less people playing survivor because waiting 30+ minutes for a match is boring.

Devs say camping is a viable strategy though... Also taking the party hostage? I disagree. It's boring to be camped but it will end after a maximum of 2 minutes. Killers that camp will never reach Red Ranks (I assume you mean grades.)? Maybe watch 1 or 2 streams by killer mains in supposedly high MMR. If they want to win, they will camp, slug and tunnel relentlessly. Somehow these people still manage to get to Iri 1 every month. Last but not least DBD is NOT a sport. It's not hockey, it's not football, it's not baseball, it is a game. That is a difference.

But if there's 5-4 gens left they wont be done until the first person dies.

You see the problem?

They would have to completely rework Bubbas entire power in order to change this. His current kit makes him unstoppable in regards to camping.

So 2 survivors are guaranteed kills for Bubba. How is that not broken?

They should find out why players quit the game, I think they will soon change their minds.

Why is complaining about facecamping still a thing? The year is 2022, we are approaching the 6th anniversary of this game. The only counter to a facecamping killer is gen rushing and getting out of there. Yes, it may suck. Yes, it may seem unfair if you are the one being facecamped. The best thing to do is to deny the killer a 4k by getting out of there asap. The killer will use your altruism against you. Don't play into it.

While I do agree that AFK Pig was pretty stupid. You still have to remember that her power is based on RNG meaning whatever box she chooses to camp, it's a 50/50 chance that either the survivors get unlucky with their key being in that box she's camping, or everyone gets their trap off and Pig gets no value out of it. Against a facecamping Bubba, it's always a 100% lose because you cannot save you teammate no matter what. Hook trading doesn't matter and BT doesn't matter. There is no saving against Bubba.

That'd prevent a lot of plays, though. Bubba deserves to be able to saw someone who's dumb enough to rush a hook with him on their tail. Plus survivors would use hooks as safe zones against him - same issue as people looping near hooks during the paused hook timer experiment.

I don't think there's a foolproof way to do this, and there's probably flaws in this suggestion I haven't thought of, but disabling the saw if he spends too long in the same tile as a hooked survivor without being in a chase sounds better. He can still proxy camp with the saw, just not facecamp.

Because it creates games that are boring as sin for everyone involved, and it's extremely effective for the amount of effort it requires, so it's common enough to not be the occasional annoying fluke? It's not healthy for the game any more than a killer who is literally AFK is healthy for the game, because that's the experience you get if you play it correctly. When you have dominant strategies that are uninteractive, you get an emergent problem with gameplay - see Dead Hard.

Also, the complaint isn't facecamping, per se. You can counter any other facecamping killer with a coordinated rescue or even just a hook trade. Some make it more difficult and require several people or for you to wait out a timer (Trickster, Myers, Oni, Plague), but saving your teammates is an option. A competent Bubba no-sells saves.

Yea, I forgot to add such detail as it was stupid late. But yea, the idea here is that his saw is disabled whenever he is camping to the hooked survivor if he stayed there for x amount of time. He could still proxy camp of course. If there no one on the hook then there no reason to shut his saw down, other wise that would be a bit unfair. Otherwise, what you said made sense and I agree.

Unless you're going against a complete baby Bubba who manages to mess up the most simplest things, you won't "play around the saw." The way Bubba's power works allows him to down anybody who tries to trade hooks and he will completely confirm the kill. Yes, you can just do gens while the Bubba is camping, and while I do get that players who hover around the hooks will probably complain that face camping Bubba is OP since they all end up dying for not just rushing the gens, it still isn't fun for the Survivor on the hook, or even the Survivors in the game.

To me, this whole argument was never about losing or winning. It's the fact that the person on the hook literally can't play the game anymore all because the Bubba's face camping, and there's basically nothing the Survivors can do to get that person off. Also, it isn't fun for anyone else in the game since they have no choice but to hold M1 the entire game and they get absolutely no Killer/Survivor interaction.

There's no way that any competent Bubba will allow a hook trade in most cases. Now sure, there are some cases where the Bubba can slightly mess up and won't be able to rev his chainsaw fast enough to stop the save, but assuming that the hooked Survivor doesn't have DS, the Bubba can just hook the Survivor again since he'll eat through BT, or he'll just have the other Survivor to hook and it restarts all over again.

How to fix camping, take away hooks. Survivors now become a orb that must be picked up and get revived at a altar. Orb has a time limit like hook phases. Basically how Fortnite and apex revive dead teammates