Why does every license killer feels weak
seriously what the hell
You got ghostface, gets nerfed by one loop
pig, which can be good with perks but her traps feel random even with changes
Nemsis, worst damn addons in this damn game
Sadako, forgotten
Myers, impossible to play without perks
Demodoggy, doesn't exist anymore (can't say anything about it)
Cenobite, again a forgotten killer
Pyramid head, will say is a bit good when he has the element of surprise but somehow made his movements feel so awkward while using the rites of judgments
Freddy : i forgot he even exists
the only good license killer is bubba, because he can one shot, which is honestly feels boring in general, but feels amazing when u want to make everyone suffer
and yet you might say some original characters are weak but let me remind you, at their time they were gods of the game, they just aged poorly
and then we get some forgotten original killers
Artist, can literally nerf any damn loop, she is just underrated
hag, again broken af but boring to play with or against since u always got a down
Trapper, you feel like Lex Luther when someone gets caught in your trap
Wraith, has either sanic build or sneaky
hot take : twins are a good since u can put vic as a UAV anywhere to check for survivors but the switching time is what's holding them back
Deathslinger, literally has an AWP
you get the point basically, every license killer feels nerfed on release while original killers are good but tend to age poorly, im gonna be honest i wasn't drawn to this game by nurse or blight
piggy is what drew me here because im a huge fan of the saw movies, then ghostface brought me back
it just feels sad that killers that people enjoy are so weak while u can just pick nurse and guarantee a 4k every game which is just lame and boring
But feel free to tell me how nemsis has the best addons, even tho he doesn't have a single addon that exhausts or literally does anything else
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Are you seriously using Trapper, Wraith, and Deathslinger as counterarguments for how original killers are stronger than licensed killers? (Edit: Whoops, I misunderstood where you were going with that.)
Like, I'm not gonna lie that there's a weird cluster of licensed killers towards the bottom (and it heavily correlates to stealth killers, because... stealth killers), but Bubba, Nemesis, Pyramid Head, and Demo are all pretty solid picks.
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demo nemesis and pinhead are good killers. Pyramid head is top 5
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Pyramid Head is so strong, I have no idea how he could ever be considered even just a bit weak. Nemesis is also strong in my opinion. Maybe not 100%% viable at the highest level of play, but still fairly strong. Same goes for Demogorgon.
Pinhead also has a lot of potential, especially if you get a good feeling for where his box spawns. Problem with him is that his passive is too good, and his main power, the one that takes a lot of skill, is not strong enough.
The rest I kind of agree with. Fredy isn't as weak as some people seem to believe, in my opinion, but he's also not particularly strong or anything.
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Pyramid Head is very good and Nemesis is pretty solid and their anti-loop is very good.
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yes pyramid head is strong but why the hell the weird movements
and honestly i never said freddy is weak i just forgot his exists lol
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Licensed killers aren't all weak. Pyramid head, nemesis, pinhead, leatherface and demogorgon are all very decent. I think they don't want to make licensed killers too strong since this could be labelled as pay to win.
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Nemesis is not weak, he is best boy in game. Don't make me give you stars
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pyramid head falls apart cuz he has no map pressure , no good addons , kind of an annoying power to use and aim and that power gives survivors more counterplay than that of nemesis'
imo pyramid head definitely needs to be looked at again and be made better.
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Easy cuz the creators of those characters doesnt have any love to it.If they would make all licensed B+ to A plus.
Also notice that:
Ghostface is human
Pig is human
Myers is human
And...the only good licensed is a bioweapon.
What I mean its that by lore they cant make for example Ghostface get a cloak mode where he moves faster.
Myers despite he appears and disappears suddenly we cant add like a teleport where u would appear close by a surv on Undetectable mode.
You get what I mean?
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Pyramid and Freddy are actually quite solid. Also, I would say that Bubba, Nemesis, Pinhead and Demogorgon are mid tiers. The only weak licenses imo are Pig, Sadako, Ghostface and Myers and the only one of these who is unplayable for how bad he is, is Myers.
Normally I'm more lenient towards judging licensed killers because they have to be fair representations of their original material. Sadako for example is an excellent adaptation, it's just that she is really out of tune with the game's balance. Meanwhile you get Trickster, who is an original killer, that has a copy paste of Huntress power but being absolutely garbage. I would say that it is much easier to forgive Sadako than to forgive Trickster.
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I main Myers. He is far from unplayable. I win most of my games with him. And no I don't use tombstone to do it. Most underrated killer in Dbd.
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He feels a bit clunky but he is still strong. He is the only killer in the game that can prevent BT and DS in that way so he is also pretty much the strongest tunneler in the game. That might not be very fun or very nice to use but it still adds to his strength. His anti-loop is good with counterplay but also hit-or-hit scenarios and he can even hit multiple people with one attack. In terms of base strength (without addons) I think he needs no changes at all. Though of course it would be nice if he was a bit less clunky and awkward to control with overall more viable addons.
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If you're being ran as Pyramid Head outside of W key for more than 10 seconds you've made a serious error.
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STAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRSSSSSSSSS
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Pyramid Head, Pinhead, Bubba, Nemesis, and Demo are pretty good killers Freddy sometimes but, eh not so much as he used to.
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Executioner is actually pretty good, same goes for Demogorgon, they're both A tier
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I feel like the reason it feels that way is because some killers can’t fully apply enough pressure to convince a survivor to stop what they are doing.
My personal opinion is that Pinhead is not strong whatsoever, but I also play on console so his power is a little jankie for me. But I find Nemesis and Pyramid Head to be amazing at there jobs. The first breaks pallet loops and applies a passive pressure and has add-ons that give him very high tracking and control. PH can break almost any loop, yeah his movements are weird but he is dragging a knife the size of a middle aged garbage man. He also punishes people for being hero’s.
Now… onto the others.
Freddy is good but does require some perks to help him do his job.
Well Ghost just needs more love from the devs and better Condemned percentages.
Bubba IS amazing but does suffer from a few flaws. Any loud killer does.
The Pig almost suffers from the same problem the Well Ghost has. Her main power is very much not a huge deterrent. It also requires a generator to be turned on for it to activate. Since party’s exist and Discord exists, this makes it go from a “I better get this off now!” To a “Guys hold up I have a trap on me.”
Demi is great but sadly unavailable to most new players.
Ghostface and Myers have the same problem. Stacked loops being too close together. Especially if a pallet is six meters away. So it’s more a issue with how maps are than their powers. I remember Mikey being op because the pallets and loops were not that close together, but after the Freddy update they put in enough pallets to fill a stockroom.
It’s also all about play style and personal preference. Like how I said Pinhead was bad, or how I hate blight and nurse because I’m on console. Maybe you’re just better with the company made killers. I don’t know for sure but that’s what my friend told me because I couldn’t control Pinheads weird power.
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Nevertheless we lost a lot of games against all of them.
I don´t know if you play SWF - for those players everything except Nurse or Blight seems to be weak and boring.
Normal people or SoloQ struggle a lot.
Myers, Pinhead, Freddy, Pig often destroy us in SoloQ games.
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Freddy has worse addons than nemesis.
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Pyramid head is really the only strong licensed killer which is kinda sad. Pinhead used to be pretty good but then they nerfed him, granted it was a very unfun addon.
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I still think Cenobite is solid.
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i mean at least he has fake pallets and addons to hear the survivors better
nemsis literally has zombie addons which suck and some few addons that are completely useless
only 2 are usefull which are the ones who boost ur virus level
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Because there is an argument to be made that DBD is pay to win if licensed killers are consistently strong.
You never want your game to be pay to win, because the majority of the money comes from mid and lower income players who probably cannot afford to get all the killers they would need just to compete.
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I keep forgetting that Sudoku is a real licensed killer here.
Most licensed killer's problem are the nearly 70% useless addons they have and Nemesis' zombie AI getting stuck on trees.
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I agree with all killers mentioned in this comment, perhaps a Ghostface can be also strong too
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Nah not ghostface lmao
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He can be sometimes sneaky like Wraith, but unlike Wraith he can oneshot you
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I for one am surprised that Pyramid Head is rated so high...
I believe that the reason why the collaboration killers are rated low is probably because they sell on name value. (I don't understand Sadako...)
I think the original killers need to perform better so that they are not buried by the collaboration killers.
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Thanks for proving us that you have no idea how to play this game well as killer.
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I'd say the only weakest licensed killer would be The Nightmare in both gameplay and kit.
The Shape is outdated yes, but he still has the smallest terror radius out of any killer, has great vault speed in tier 3, good add-ons, and instadown/mori potential in his kit. These tools make up for the fact that he is an M1 killer at heart.
The Ghost Face plays by nature of a stealth killer, which can give him multiple advantages if played correctly. Playing recklessly doesn't benefit you at all. I would agree that he was weak if his kit wasn't reworked.
The Pig is overall RNG dependent, but still decent in the right hands.
The only weak aspect about The Nemesis is that more than half of his add-ons are dogpoop. Otherwise an experienced Nemesis is a monster in chases.
The Cenobite is strong only when played correctly. Too many mistakes can hurt them. This also applies to The Onryõ and The Demogorgon. (for those that own it)
The Executioner has massive zoning potential despite his weak add-on kit.
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He does have map pressure and thats in the form of cages, instead of going around the map he can comfortably sit in his own territory where he can constantly leave trails while chasing, and making Survivors leave his territory by having to go for saves.
His M2 is also pretty damn good, the only thing that needs revisiting are his add ons, as they're pretty lackluster
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I like how no mention of nurse, but Cenobite forgotten doesn't mean bad and nemesis may have bad add-ons but still really powerful yes some of the licensed killers are bad but also some official characters are bad
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Bubba and Pinhead are literally the strongest licensed killers.
BHVR even released a data sheet for the killers and Pinhead is up there with a massive kill ratio.
I think it’s due to how the chains can sometimes screw a survivor up in a chase and then someone has to stop doing a generator or healing to go do the box.
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Nurse is neither forgotten nor weak lol
and didn't age poorly
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Pig and Ghostface are weak
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"Myers, impossible to play without perks"..
why would you play without perks?.. in DBD EVERY killer has his place.. sure one is stronger then another but there is no killer who is really bad and impossible to win games..
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Why should they need to make licensed killer strong as a selling point when their franchise and their name/brand can take care of that /S
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a killer should never rely too much on their addons
addons are there to help not to make the killer viable or useless
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because everyone is bored of every damn license killer being weaker than killers that are 5 years old?
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Pyramid Head played well is one of the killer with the least counterplay, except maybe for Nurse. He does have counterplay, but it's rather limited. As soon as a survivor is stuck in an animation, you will almost always get a guaranteed hit, unless the limited turn rate hinders you.
Pyramid Head's chase potential is one of the very best in the entire game, except again for Nurse maybe. It shoots through anything, and makes the safets pallets completely useless. In fact, an interesting attribute to Pyramid Head is that, generally, the safer the pallet, the weaker it is against Pyramid Head.
He also has a bit of map pressure. He can tunnel like no other killer, avoiding DS and BT for the most part. And if the survivor is tormented, he also doesn't have to waste time picking survivors up, so he has more time patrolling gens.
Pyramid Head is incredibly strong. He does not need buffs. He might need some changes. I would love if his addons all got buffed so they had an impact. I also wouldn't mind if the spawn delay of his shock wave was decreased just tad. But only if the cooldown after canceling his power is increased, to allow for a bit more counterplay on survivors side, and if survivors lost their tormented status effect when hooked. No killer needs further incentives to tunnel than they already have.
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Myers has his problems, and I hate the stalk juice mechanic, or at least that it doesn't refill and once it's spend, it's gone, but his Exposed on demand is pretty slick and he can snowball like Oni and I soooo love that his takedown just circumvents DH. Its always balm for my poor, DH-ravaged heart.
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I meant when he was mentioning original survivors he just didn't mention nurse
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"Nemsis, worst damn addons in this damn game"
PH and Slinger would like a word.
Also, I'd say licenced killers generally hover around B tier.
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Uh. Okay.
- Ghostface...is better now. It took me a while to get a feel for him, but Marks are a lot more impactful. His addons need work though.
- Pig sucks, yeah. Another example of 'hey, lets give a killer the ability to instantly RNG someone out of the game, and balance accordingly'.
- Demo does still exist, and is still likely the most perfectly balanced killer in the game.
- Cenobite is a bit like Demo. His skill floor is a little high for a 'B' tier killer, but he's far from weak.
- Nemesis has bad addons, but that's true of a lot of killers. He's pretty great otherwise.
- Pyramid head is a top tier killer.
- Sadako needs help, period.
- Myers needs help, but also needs two addons adjusted.
- Freddy sucks.
- Bubba is...ugh. If you aren't a camper, he's a nightmare on a lot of maps.
On the other hand
Hillbilly is the hardest killer in the game to play effectively.
Wraith is one of the weakest killers in the game, as is Trapper.
Twins are powerful, but incredibly one dimensional and horribly clunky to play.
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Pyramid Head, Demo, Bubba, Nemmy and Cenobite are pretty good killers tho. But yes others are sucks.
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