Suggested Buffs For Weaker Killers?

Fix the zombies. For the love of all that is good in the world just fix the damn zombies.

This... This is beautiful

I myself never understood why dream pallets were an addon, and not just an addition to his power alongside dream snares.

The instadown mechanic when all 4 survivors are in the dream world does not seem OP, it actually seems balanced IMO as it punishes 'lazy' survivors

Glad you like the ideas! I think the only time the instadown idea is maybe a bit OP is at the start of the game when all survivors enter the dream world at the same time. But they would still have a period of time to wake up anyway before instadown popped- literally just one player would need to wake up to stop the power from activating so it’s easily counter-able but it gets people off gens at least for a little bit. But people need a proper reason to actually use the clocks. I see far too many Freddy games where people don’t even need to bother waking up because really the there’s no danger in staying asleep and that needs to change.

Again, referring back to Sadako’s condemned the key is to make it so it’s fair but also design it so that it isn’t so insanely slow (which Sadako’s is) at building up to the point that no one is worried about it. The chances of it activating should be unlikely but not impossible and certainly not impossible if survivors only laser focus on gens.

I just think as well for the game overall moving forward with the perk rework and the devs saying they want to move away from a Gen slowdown meta then quite a lot of the roster (especially the m1 killers) could do with having secondary objectives/threats to survivors beyond their basic attacks- especially killers like Freddy who don’t have a special attack power. But we need them to be like pinhead’s box and not like sadako’s condemned for them to have an impact.

Personally I think Onryo is the weakest. only killer in the game without any sort of chase power

Pig needs a rework more than anything. Imo less focus on the RBTs, and she gets new traps as well as buffs to her stealth and ambush. Let her trap generators, windows and pallets, and maybe give her some kind of M2 ability?

That actually sounds pretty interesting.

I can imagine that the 'trapping the generator' would be most likely to be implemented and would have a replenishable feature? Maybe hooking a survivor gives you one charge of this ability which would allow you to trap generators, causing missed skillchecks to injure and apply deepwound.

I can imagine the window and pallet one to be similar to that of Freddy's dream snares, hindering survivors after they vault for a few seconds, or maybe going deeper into Amanda's lore and having the window appear to be open from further away, but being blocked when within vaulting distance?

Now thats a propper hot take.

Trapper needs an easier set up. He starts with all his traps halfway across the map unarmed. This gives him double the amount of set up of say Hag, Demo or Plague.

He either needs to start with more traps, or the prespawned traps need to be already armed and in half-decent locations.

The stealth killers; Myers, Pig and Ghostface, all have a nonsense mechanic. They're slower in stealth. For Pig and Ghostface this means you want to cross the map out of stealth, then go into stealth, at which points it's probably too late, you've been spotted.

So, crouching needs to have regular movement speed. You're still getting a trade off in FoV, but this would allow you to approach survivors in stealth at a decent speed more reliably.

Myers too shouldn't move slower in Tier 1, he already has to slow to a crawl when stalking, that's enough.

Doc and Clown? Not so sure they need much more.

Doc is king at locating survivors and comes with innate slowdown, while Clown now has his speedy bottle. Maybe that could do with a bit of a buff, a shorter delay or a longer duration.

Clown's yellow bottles doesnt do much because most of the time you only need the purple one, i would give him the ability to drink yellow bottles that would increase his speed by 150% for 4 seconds but when in the speed boost is up you couldnt attack. Now hes a very strong killer with an antiloop and map mobility, perfect (for me atleast).

They've already reworked or buffed the killers multiple times and it still isn't enough.

Unless they give every killer map travel equal to Nurse or Blight, I don't see how it's going to matter because the game is all about starting and ending chases as quickly as possible. The only way to create pressure on Survivors is downing them fast and most killers don't have the tools to do it.

If they reduce tiles to make M1 more viable maps become empty and boring. Reducing map size just makes Nurse even stronger.

The devs have put so much pressure on killers to be as efficient as possible while survivors can goof off and still have plenty of room to escape because of all the second chances, map layouts, generator speeds etc.

It's too late to fix, and I'm not sure it matters because there will always be enough killers willing to be a punching bag.

Your reload would restore your 4 tonics and your antidote would be on a recharge similar to spirit’s phase except only 10 seconds. You can’t manually reload the antidote it’s just passive

Would it start reloading as soon as one Antidote is thrown or once all 4 are thrown? Cuz I'd imagine there are situations where you would need more than 1, reloading for 3 seconds and having all 4 again.

Making it passive and only once all are thrown would be kind of a nerf.

• Myers - Meyers is odd because I’m not a fan of his base kit but I really like playing with his Mirror and Tombstone and Infinite Evil add-ons. I almost think “Infinite Evil” should just be his base kit and then replace his duration add-ons with other effects, but that’s just me.
• Pig - Two minor tweaks to Pig I wouldn’t mind seeing would be to make her crouched movement a bit faster and make it so her Ambush roar sound effect goes off during the actual Ambush sprint itself and not during the charging time so survivors have just slightly less time to react to it. (I actually do pretty well with Pig personally but I wouldn’t turn down those small buffs.)
• Trapper - I’d love to see Trapper just start with all his traps in hand at the start of the match like his Purple add-on. That initial set up time where he’s just walking around picking up traps all over the map is what really hurts him. Also if his traps were translucent by default so they could work well on all maps regardless of the color of the ground it would help him out too.
• Doc - Doctor is already pretty decent, I don’t think he needs a buff personally.
• Clown - Clown is a little underrated, but one minor buff I think he could use would be to make his Pink and Yellow bottles be on two separate inventories so that if he uses one type it doesn’t deplete the other.
• Freddy - I’d love to see Freddy have both snares and pallets just be in his base kit and let him swap between them ala Clown’s bottle swapping mechanism. Having Freddy be able to place either snares or fake pallets as desired throughout the match would be fun and give him a bit of a boost.

Well he’d only have 2 and they be separated from his tonic so it wouldn’t eat into his main ammo pool. It would be a pretty nice buff since he’d have to reload about half as much as he does now

Fair enough. Legion is actually pretty fun after the buffs tbh

Only if the survivors are bad

The improvement to Video Tape and Pig's Trap RNG are nice, but I personally would not call Pig "a lot better now" with how lackluster her ambush still is.

Myers doesn't need a lot of buffs imo, maybe faster stalking and also stalk regenerates on survivors that you've stalked a lot. As someone that loves playing pig, it'd be nice if she had faster crouching speed and could use her ambush outside of shorter pallet loops. For doctor I just think that the yellow discipline addon should be basekit and remove the other discipline addons, really the only problem I have with him is how ping affects his ability to anti loop survivors. Clown should have his intoxication on survivors last longer and have 1 or 2 more bottles, if those suggestions sound too obnoxious then just make him have a bigger hindered % on his bottles. Trapper needs his trap rng not to be ######### (can't tell you how many times people just escape on first attempt), be able to collect his traps from lockers rather than be randomly scattered throughout the map, and also his traps need to be bigger so survivors can't just walk through them if you place them a tiny bit wrong. Not sure what to do with freddy tbh.

A interesting one I've seen is for Sadako

Let her phase through pallets and windows, and maybe regular walls, while Demanifested