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Killers Who Use BBQ - Why?

Fibijean
Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

Got a point to prove. To all killer mains out there who use BBQ, I'm interested in knowing why. What, to you, is the best part of the perk? What makes it essential? Which part is just a bonus?

Killers Who Use BBQ - Why? 175 votes

I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus
60%
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I use it for the aura reading, the Bloodpoints are a bonus
12%
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I like both the aura reading and the Bloodpoints, and I couldn't choose one as being more important than the other
27%
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Comments

  • Ark_the_Bonsai
    Ark_the_Bonsai Member Posts: 867
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I genuinely wouldn't mind if they removed the aura reading. Everyone just hops in lockers to avoid it anyway if they have half a brain.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    That's what I told the person I'm trying to prove a point to, lol. But he insisted that everyone uses it for the aura reading and doesn't care about BPs. Hence the poll.

  • MrDardon
    MrDardon Member Posts: 4,041
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I don't usually run it when there is no Blood Hunt unless I play Billy or some Killer which can capitalize from it. During the Blood Hunt, I used it on every Killer but usually it's just for the BP bonus.

  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    edited September 2019
    I like both the aura reading and the Bloodpoints, and I couldn't choose one as being more important than the other

    Double blood points is something I can't miss on most killers. Hag is the exception because of how I play her means I don't use the aura. Aura reading is a great.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    It's interesting how many people are saying they can't choose between the two. From the way I've heard people talk, it seemed like most people just used it for one or the other.

  • Yung_Slug
    Yung_Slug Member Posts: 2,238
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I love the aura reading, but the points are the real reason I use it. Still, it would suck to have to bring a perk for extra bloodpoints if it doesn't have an actual effect.

    I really wish WGLF would be buffed to have a real effect. If you're gonna have a perk that rewards you for sandbagging the team with unsafe hooks, at least don't have it also sandbag the team by being a useless perk slot in-game.

  • Alice_pbg
    Alice_pbg Member Posts: 6,556
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    You know the bloodhunt doesn't stack with bbq right? You just go from 2x bps with bbq to 3x bps.

    It's the same as playing with a pudding.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Still makes it more worth running during a bloodhunt though. If you don't feel like it's worth a perk slot for 200% bloodpoints ordinarily, you might feel that it's worth it for 300% during the bloodhunt.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    It would be nice, but off the top of my head I can't think of any effect that people wouldn't say is too strong. Maybe a small boost to altruistic speed, or to self-healing?

    Also it's worth noting that WGLF no longer rewards for unsafe hooks. The game has to consider it a safe unhook to get the stack. Seems to be the same thing with pallet and flashlight saves - you get stacks for those, but only if they don't get downed again immediately.

    Survivors do have other BP-boosting perks, but none as good as WGLF and no survivor perk is as good as the killer perks for boosting BP. (Which, considering killers already get way more per match, is... a puzzling design choice. But I digress.) When I'm serious about farming points, I run WGLF with BT (for guaranteed safe unhooks), Prove Thyself and No One Left Behind. Gets me about 50-70k in a good game.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,410
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I get it. As killer, four perk slots never seem like enough to cover everything. So, a perk that provides only BP and no gameplay utility would... it would hurt, gameplay wise. The perk needs some secondary effect. The aura reading is not the main reason I use it, I use it for the BP, but I would certainly be unhappy if the aura reading were taken away. Suddenly I'd be using three otherwise-useless perks instead of two just to farm as killer.

  • Yung_Slug
    Yung_Slug Member Posts: 2,238
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    By safe unhooks, I don't mean what the game considers "safe unhooks". I mean when people farm people off the hook with BT for guaranteed points with no consequences.

    My favorite idea for WGLF so far is giving the unhooked survivor Haste for a certain amount of time. That way the Killer would be discouraged from tunneling that survivor off the hook and instead going after the unhooker.

  • Alice_pbg
    Alice_pbg Member Posts: 6,556
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    Fair point. I literally use everytime because the grind is real. XD

    Just wanted to clear any possible confusion :)

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I would absolutely not use BBQ just for the aura reading. If the BP bonus were not a factor, I would swap it out for Discordance or Surveillance, or some other better tracking perk.

    I wish the BP bonus mechanic were just baked into the killer's base kit, so I could have more perk flexibility.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    I think everyone could do with just permanent double bloodpoints. The grind is too real with the amount of perks and characters in the game now.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited September 2019
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I voted for the BP's primarily but I also don't see any reason to remove the aura reading from it. It even encourages "fun" game play by getting the killer to leave hooks.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Neither do I, really. I should clarify, the point I'm trying to prove is not that BBQ should be nerfed in some way. I was talking to someone who insisted that almost all killers use it for the auras and don't really care about the bloodpoints, and I told him it was the other way around. So I'm gathering evidence to back up that claim.

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I agree. But I specifically would want BBQ's Bloodpoint incentive moved off the perk and into the base kit, so there isn't a "Should I use this perk because it gives me more BP?" quandary (which would still be the case, no matter how many BP you're getting otherwise).

    All of this is useless though, because Behaviour refuses to show any contrition over the unwieldy state of the grind. It's all part of the sham security blanket that they cling to because they're terrified that less grind would equal more player churn, and so they prioritize that over long-term player happiness (paging @Peanits in case anyone's attitude has changed over there, though I don't reasonably expect anyone at Behaviour to reply and actually have a conversation about this, because no one ever wants to confront it honestly and directly, even though it is the single biggest problem with their game).

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    Oh I definitely would agree even without seeing this poll that most killers use it for the bloodpoints. There are some killers that the aura reading is extremely good on, namely high mobility killers. However, I would be dropping it from most my killers if it didn't have the blood point component and I think most killers would as well.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342
    edited September 2019

    The only reason I say everyone should get more bloodpoints than they do, rather than just BBQ should be basekit, is that killers already get about twice as many bloodpoints per game as survivors, and I don't see it as being a good idea to widen that gap even further.

    I agree about the grind thing, though. We're trying so hard to expand the community, and getting all these new players, but at the same time, between the imposingly huge grind, the best perks mostly being DLC, and the broken matchmaking, it seems like we're shooting ourselves in the foot at the same time. I'm not mad about it or anything, it's just a real shame.

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I also think We're Gonna Live Forever should be base kit for survivors!

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Would be cool, although the requirements might need to be adjusted a bit. There's only a max of 8 rescuable hooks in a game, and encouraging bodyblocking for stacks might not be the best idea. Perhaps if it were base kit, you could also get stacks for repairing a generator, or healing other survivors or something. But we're getting a bit off-topic, lol!

  • RainbowPatooie
    RainbowPatooie Member Posts: 322
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I used to use it for aura reading, but now it's more of a bloodpoint booster with extra use.

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    Thing is, if they took away the bloodpoint bonus, it's probably not the aura reading perk I'd choose.

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,296
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I need those extra bloodpoints. The aura reading can be good but only on the most mobile killers.

    Without the bloodpoints I wouldn't use it as other perks can be more helpful.

  • Purgatorian
    Purgatorian Member Posts: 1,146
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    The game is a big grind as it is without bbq so I like to lessen this just a little bit with the bloodpoint gain. It gets a little boring after a while playing the same killer over and over to get the teachables you want, bbq quickens up the process and allows you to get to the point when you can alternate between your favourite killers.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,022
    I like both the aura reading and the Bloodpoints, and I couldn't choose one as being more important than the other

    I go off hints

  • Slan
    Slan Member Posts: 307
    I use it for the aura reading, the Bloodpoints are a bonus

    For speed killers like Hillbilly or Oni is perfect, as It tells you where to apply pressure while duscouraging camping by making you go quite far. And now with dredge lockers are no longer a huge deal.

  • ReverseVelocity
    ReverseVelocity Member Posts: 4,606

    My guy this is like the second thread you've necroed from 2019.

  • Slan
    Slan Member Posts: 307
    I use it for the aura reading, the Bloodpoints are a bonus

    Is my boredom that obvious? XD

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I use it for the BP. The aura reading is a bonus, especially when playing killers like Artist and Sadako.

  • SimplyPixelated06
    SimplyPixelated06 Member Posts: 469
    I like both the aura reading and the Bloodpoints, and I couldn't choose one as being more important than the other

    I love both. Bloodpoints are great, and aura reading is awesome, its very helpful to see where you should go next after hooking someone rather than checking to see if someones at a gen.

  • squib_guy
    squib_guy Member Posts: 17
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    the aura reading is nice, but if they remove the BP bonus, (which they said they are,) then I'll probably use floods of rage and darkness revealed more often

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    This is similar to a poll I did a while back. About 50% of people said they would still use BBQ if the bloodpoint bonus was removed and 50% said they wouldn’t. There are definitely some people who will still use BBQ even with no point bonus, it won’t be a top used perk any more though.

  • Elcopollo
    Elcopollo Member Posts: 773
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    If I want aura reading, I'd pair it with something else. BBQ has extremely unreliable aura reading, but I love bonus BP, as it gives me chance to spend less time on the game without using up my offerings. With that gone, I, personally, see no reason to bring it in ever again.

    Even Darkness Revealed from Dredge feels more consistent, as there's no limitation range-wise as long as they are near locker, plus they never know when you'll use it.

    So yeah. RIP, BBQ, we had a good run.

  • ThatOneDemoPlayer
    ThatOneDemoPlayer Member Posts: 5,623

    I don't use BBQ

  • Viskod
    Viskod Member Posts: 854
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    I can't wait for the BP Bonus to be removed, then I won't feel compelled to use it so often.

  • Bran
    Bran Member Posts: 2,096
    I like both the aura reading and the Bloodpoints, and I couldn't choose one as being more important than the other

    Best of both worlds.

    Also the last 2. Just downed the last guy. Take em away and see the aura of the slugged one.

  • Snivo
    Snivo Member Posts: 11
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    BP, i have no other reason to use the aura reading. Most players just hop in a locker anyway, so without the BP the perk is genuinely useless to me. I get some people find the aura reading helpful, but the aura reading is just just a bonus, there are way more perks I'd rather run over BBQ.

    I really disagree with them removing the BP on this perk, having perks that give you BP isn't bad, and I really hate how they view it as such. For instance, the Anniversary is the PERFECT time to use BP perks! I'd literally rather BBQ just give 100% BP than aura readings if one of them had to be removed, I'm giving up a perk slot for some added BP. I think its a perfectly fine and healthy tradeoff, extremely disappointing to hear how they think of BP on perks.

  • Ghouled_Mojo
    Ghouled_Mojo Member Posts: 2,287
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    The aura reading isn’t great. Good survivors can tell when it’s in play and either hide in lockers, get close to not trigger or hide behind gens. It’s pretty useless for just tracking.

  • AnchorTea
    AnchorTea Member Posts: 1,021
    I use it for the Bloodpoints, the aura reading is a bonus

    Mmm yummy delicious bp