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It's time to NERF the Nurse
Dev seems to forget they have an out-of-spec killer called Nurse
Think what the future holds, u will play against Nurse with Jolt without cooldown + Soopy butcher + Thanatophobia and other fantasy perks , and u need 90s to do a gen basicly , once u get hit u need 45S to selfcare. Otherwise, the next time the nurse sees you, you're basically waiting to lie down.
Nurse can fly through all the map ,hit one surv and then back to the hook repeatedly. No one can unhook and the gens can not fix .
This is the biggest problem of the game
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I've been playing against Top nurse players for a long time.
They play and only play nurse for 3000H and more. The average survivor player is their toy （ Dev should look at those Top Nurse stream on Twitch)
Now there is a bug related lag in the server，they can hit u with a large hit box or hit u before their blink animation showing.
Look at the pictures, the status icon on the left shows that I'm down before he hits the ground
Wouldn't it be too ill-considered to save this stuff for the next big update?
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You only need 45 seconds to self-care, if you choose to use self-care. DH remains effective against Nurse, and it is likely that their statement in the notes that kill rates were too low applied to Nurse as well. Especially given information they've realized in the past about kill rates.
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"Time to nerf nurse"
Meanwhile, there's me on Coldwind Cowsheds at high MMR getting trashed with four hooks whilst using the base kit with no addons because there's no blink distance and too long fatigue on-chain blinks forcing me to run the best addons.
Because there's too much distance to cover and generators fly like no tomorrow.
And no it isn't a git gud issue it's a map design issue.
Sure, let's nerf her, not.
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You know what, DH only had a 20% success rate against my old rival Top Nurse on the server. U couldn't activate DH before their blink animation showing to u. See my picture above
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Point? It's arguably more effective against Nurse now, I'm just holding that opinion until I see some PTB results.
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If you can activate,DH that might be more effective.
The problem I'm talking about is that the Nurse can knock you down before it blinks animation show on ur sight,
Do u understand what my picture above telling u?
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I understand you have latency, based on the above pictures. Nurse's blink has plenty of queues you can use to time your DH.
And yes, you can activate DH in time. It's frequently touted as the only thing holding nurse back in every 'Nerf DH' thread in existence. So clearly, there is a consensus that it works.
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Just get good?
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Reading comprehension isn't your thing I take it.
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But sarcasm is
You typed "getting good isn't the issue" and i replied with "get good" god why do i even need to explain this
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So the devs should look at top nurses, but for survivor, they should balance for bad players. I don’t know your history, so maybe you don’t think that, but this seems to be the mentality of people on the forum. People need to see that this is a double standard.
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Top nurses get trashed by good survivors and that's with them even restricting perks in these tournaments for survivors.
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Hey man, I've already spent 6, 000 hours on this game.Most of the time I was a 4.6 killer against top players.
You really need to see how the top nurse players play on Asian servers, especially Korean servers.
Search dbd_dage on Twitch. U will understand why no one can play against those XXXX h main nurse player
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If a “Top nurse” get trashed when u face some “ good surv “, that only proof that nurse is a not good enough nurse
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Get better at the game as you love to always say to people asking for Nurse nerfs,she is broken in the right hands if myself a Oni main is better than you on your own killer then it's must be a skill issue.
Well I don't even know if you main Nurse but boy you sure like defending her on every nerf Nurse thread.
Add-ons are banned in tournaments for a reason beceause Nurse is already oppressive when playing against the Nurse it's a matter of where you go down not when you go down that's why comp corner is a thing.
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You follow me like a bad smell, sure I need to get better at high MMR, nothing to do with map design surely?
I get downs on average 20-30 seconds into the game depending on the map, hook two people and in that time two gens will pop.
Do the maths, 2 hooks per 2 gens, by the time you can blink to the other side of the map they've already coordinated and repaired the ones you just left.
You're just the average survivor main who wants to be coddled instead of getting better.
I wish I could ignore/block people on this forum, you would be one of them, like a deranged ex-partner stalking.
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I don't know what you're insinuating, your internet isn't good enough or your PC? If the re-stain is there that's where the Nurse currently is and your system isn't updating quick enough.
I don't think I've ever seen that.
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Great counter argument you got me there buddy once again you just keep saying random nonsense and ignore what I said which is what I expected from a person with only awful takes like you.
Yes indeed you need to get better friend it's a skill issue why are you talking about map design when you're playing Nurse and that's another topic I agree that we should do something about map designs but we're talking about Nurse here not maps.
3.8k hours killer main here btw but of course keep calling me a survivor main.
Probably one of the most cringey person on the forums with only awful takes and braindead reasoning...
Remember to get good at Nurse and at the game :)
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Logical fallacy. You only accept a nurse as good if they win. If they ever lose, they are bad. That’s such a negative and lousy mentality. I don’t care about the asian servers. I have seen good Nurses win and lose throughout every region.
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Top nurses shouldn't lose
How many blink u need to knock down a surv on average? If you need to blink more than 4or5, then your nurse level is obviously insufficient.
The top nurses I know and play against can do 95%+ easy 4 kills without any add-on whether you swf or not.
A top blight can still be challenged and defeated by top solo players or swfs，But for top nurses, that's just a toy.
They all need to be nerf, Blight already has plans for a nerf on hug-teach , so it's the Nurse's turn
BTW，Although I don't play nurses much. But I still have a 2W+ blink （3w+ is the pass mark for advanced nurses）, so I'm totally aware of how outrageous this thing can be when played well
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This is the norm on the servers I play on. Whether you are 28ping or 60ping. Because you are playing against the Nurse players with 120fps and ping above 70 ,80 or 90+.
This is a bug, Can anyohter killer attack surv without hit animation?.
I don't know why no one mentioned it. Maybe it's the norm to hit people with a VPN on your server.
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You do realize Nurse's play in different ways, correct? Not every Nurse is running Agi/Starstruck/Floods and slugging, and going for the kill right away. I've seen a lot simply trying to 12 hook everyone and playing fair in doing so. Are you going to tell me 4 survivors equal in skill to a Nurse all being death hook but escaping means that Nurse is trash, when if they had chosen to play a bit more dirty they'd easily have obliterated a team under those circumstances? Great logic.
With logic like that no one is going to take you very seriously. Just like using lag or hitbox lunge issues as if that's something that's a problem unique to the Nurse. If "top Nurse's" are the issue, not the Nurse in general, there's probably a more targeted approach you could take to nerf there, which is probably perk/blink interactions.
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"if they had chosen to play a bit more dirty they'd easily have obliterated a team under those circumstances"
Why not?
Whether a nurse is playing casually or going all out, I don't think it's difficult to judge.
The top nurse I'm talking about is the one who can easily crush most survivor players in a casual play mentality
On the server I play on, it's normal to tunnel and camp a surv and make sure he dead before 3 gens are fixed.
European and American servers are too casual to play. You often say "Gen rush, camp and tunnel etc.", it has long been a default rule on Asian servers. ”Surv Players play without DH are brainless/toxic player , Killers not tunnel and camp are so silly and lack of skill“ , do you understand the difference?
The current strength of the nurse is reserved to the next version that requires more time to fix a gen and self-care. It is a bomb in the future.
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I don’t know how they would nerf her without making her useless but here’s my idea
•No more range add ons, she doesn’t need them at all base kit nurse is extremely strong
• blinks need to be more punishing if whiffed, increase base fatigue from 2 seconds to 3 seconds
• increase blink recharge time from 2.5 seconds to 3.5 seconds
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What do you guys want to do, keep nerfing every killer, so now every killer is the same, and they're just boring, and you get no value out of a killer being there own
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If this patch goes through unchanged, they should 100% nerf Nurse.
Besides her, I think no Killer is too strong, not even Blight.
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Killers also get restrictions in tournaments. Also, plenty of tournament players aren't all that "top"...
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They aren't even aware how nurse often hits you before the blink animation finishes and before she starts to swing.
This bug has been here for months now, and they aren't even aware of it. Absurd, that the character they play has had this game-breaking issue for months since the nurse fix, and these nurse players can't even acknowledge it.
Just ignore these players who defend nurse. They don't care about a fair, balanced game. They want to win no matter how fair the game was.
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This is one the biggest lie I have ever read on a nurse rage thread.
Lmao 3s fatigue. Adding more clunkyness to the killer side.
Basekit nurse is trash, if you can’t win against that, you are a horrible survivor. Btw on your koreans servers they are probably cheaters with wallhacks, because it’s extremely easy to avoid and shift W a basekit nurse.
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That's the main problem I want to mention. "Nurse can hit u before its blink animation showing on ur sight"
This 100% is a bug. No other killer has this crazy problem so frequently
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Basekit nurse is perfectly fine, if you think you need strong builds on her you're just bad :)
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Yesterday I played against a Nurse at the Silent Hill map. That was the most unfair and frustrating experience I've had in this game.
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You are on every single nurse nerf thread copy pasting your lies about winrates and addon effectiveness. Why don’t you do a 1vs1 with me ? Your basekit nurse against me, any map.
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You're on every thread too defending her with some of the weakest arguments I've ever read
I've got nothing to prove to you, the way you defend her when you also shared how you play said enough
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Haha, you know you would lose all credibility by being looped for ever on your nurse when you claim she is OP, easy and doesn’t take any effort.
It’s cute.
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It's not a lie...?
Due to the animation bug with blinks, the nurse can down the survivor before the nurse is even seen as starting her swing, thus making Dead hard timing impossible.
And an early dead hard is easily punished because many nurses wait out dead hard and easily down the survivor on the second blink.
It seems you don't know much about the killer you are defending.
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Lmfao ok
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It's your business to believe that crazy players who only play nurse for thousands of hours are ESP.
B TW, I used to call ESP when I played Nurse.
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what’s your Steam ID ?
If you don't mind the lag, I can play with you
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It’s called lag. Playing with 200-300ms is broken on any killer, it’s not the nurse fault here.
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cue all the salty killer mains when somebody asks to nerf nurse.
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I have never said that, we were talking about basekit nurse. I don't believe these high MMR players are only basekit. Nurse with addons is the strongest, there is no doubt about that. But if we talk about basekit, Blight is way better.
Actually I do mind the lag, as I said lag makes killers op.
But anyways :
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No, it is not.
The Korean server is very small. It happens even when Korean survivors go against Korean nurses. There are no lag issues. Going from one side of Korea to the other, the highest ping you might get is 40ms.
This is not an issue with other killers.
It is an issue that appeared when the nurse was disabled, and then was reinserted into the killer lineup. It is an animation bug.
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I'll add you later.
I'll be the Host since the cross server lag will affect the blink distance
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or time to learn playing vs them? 6 years isn't enough to loop them just a little bit? god nurse will get you without addons ye but that doesn't mean you cant win some time or cant escape..
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Guys you really lack understanding of Top Nurses
6 years of time and experience will make survivors more familiar and easier to deal with 4.6 killers, such as some old-fashioned routines, how to use windows to link with pallets, and how to marathon.
But for a nurse with enough experience, these don't make sense. 4.6 and 4.4 will be restricted, but nurses will not
Search dbd_dage on Twitch ，look at how he play, He's my friend and only plays nurses
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And the problem I mentioned is that the nurse's blink animation is very weird from the survivor sight now.
Before the blink animation showing, he can hit you down with his hand still up, you can't react correctly at all
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Basekit is extremely strong LOL.
Ever played high MMR? Good luck on a map bigger than Midwich with the tiniest blink range, survivors know when you aren't playing range addons as well when they just hold pure W because that's how you beat basekit nurse.
On a good tile you can make her blink bug and it makes basekit nurse suffer even harder.
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They perfectly know She's op, but they're scared from the 5 nurses in the forum lmao
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Do I need to point out it's a logical fallacy?
You've just debunked your own post, right before this one (if it helps you understand).
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