Dredge super op? (on the game)

Close the lockers and have a escape route prepared.

If there's a group of lockers lock ONLY one locker, some reason Dredge teleport always prioritize the locked locker. So when that broken you can lock the other. If you just lock all of them drege will just get free lock breaks.

Also it's the Game map you have so many very safe pallets to work with.

Isn't there a black mist and sound when the Dredge teleports to a locker? Keep your camera angle pointed at the lockers unless you're in his terror radius and don't know where he is ( in that case, swivel the camera and keep checking possible ingresses)

Edit: Forgot to mention yes, there is a cooldown, but it's extremely short during Nightfall but if the Dredge teleports in out of Nightfall you at least have a few seconds before it can be done again).

One thing that I forgot to mention since I was thinking specifically of the Game is that, in the start of the trial you want to prioritize the gens that are the closest to lockers. I find a lot of survivors don't plan their gen order but the more spacing between gens as the game goes on, the better.

Why? Because the early game gens are the most likely to get done and the more spacing between the gens in the late game the longer it takes the killer to patrol.

With the Dredge, there's amazing map mobility as long as there are lockers. Quite commonly, survivors leave me with three gens at end game right by lockers. I've gone from 4 hooks with 0K to 4K and 12 hooks and I can't think of a game where my 3 gen was broken.

In Nightfall, it takes seconds to check each gen. The Dredge has 3 tokens to teleport and can see and hear the immediate vincinity. So, check a gen, teleport, etc. In less than 10 seconds I've checked all 3 gens for survivors in Nightfall and a few seconds later I repeat.

Out of Nightfall, it takes longer but less than 25 seconds for all 3 and each teleport advances Nightfall.

I run Call of Brine and Discordance so as soon as 2 survivors touch a gen I know. As soon as 1 survivor has a good skill check I know. As well, with Darkness Revealed I see any survivors by gens as long as there's a locker nearby.

So I pop out, hit the survivors, kick the gens and by playing a patient game the survivors will try to do the gens injured. If not, they lose so much progress with Call of Brine they'll never finish a gen.

If the gen is far away from a locker, I have to walk there and I won't see survivors hiding by lockers like I will with gens by lockers. Now it takes time to get hits and down survivors since I have to first get there from the nearest locker and then down a survivor. It becomes more like a regular 3 gen against most killers and the Dredge is loopable.

So, if you have a gen away from lockers at end game you now have time to finish it. If all the gens are by lockers at end game hope for a mistake by the Dredge because the Dredge now controls the map.

For solo queue, I find doing the come with me emoji, Situational Awareness and Blast Mine (for the yellow aura) helps me herd my teammates away from doing the closest gen everytime.

As well, with Nightfall, a lot of survivors don't realize how bright they are in Nightfall. If the Dredge has line of sight they've seen you because you're glowing like the sun. If the Dredge gets los in Nightfall, don't try to hide. Run.

With the Game most of the gens are by lockers. If at all possible, do not do a gen that is not by a locker until late game. Stick to a rougher early game so you have a chance in endgame.

The Dredge isn't OP but he is more powerful on inside maps. There are just an obnoxious amount of lockers everywhere. But I rather face him on the Game than RPD any day. At least you can actually see the locker he may teleport to, on RPD locker's are usually out of sight, pallets are scarce or unsafe and you're liable to run into him going down a hallway. Not to mention it takes forever for you to unhook a survivor on a different level, meanwhile he just teleports in seconds.

Thanks, I find a lot of people aren't familiar with the Dredge and the Dredge is pretty good. There's as good map mobility as Blight and Nurse ( but both Blight and Nurse are better in chase) and isn't as strong as the Artist (who can damage at distance and is very hard to loop) but I'd definitely say somewhere around top B to medium A.

Two other items I forgot that you may find useful is that while the Dredge can't see anything but gens or lockers while teleporting the Dredge can still hear everything. So, if convenient, I set up my path so that it crosses a gen if I'm not going to that gen. That's also why gen distancing from lockers is so important in later parts of the game. If the gen is by a locker and I'm not prioritizing something else I'm there in a couple of seconds. If the gen is far away from a locker now it takes time to get there. In the early game you also have more resources so that helps to do gens close by lockers at the beginning.

As well, with Flashbang, Built To Last, Inner Healing or just being a locker gnome that's incredibly risky especially out of Nightfall. The Dredge can see lockers opening while teleporting so, while I don't know which survivor it is, I know a survivor is in a locker and an easy grab and hook. Lockers are death coffins against a Dredge.

The reason why I say it's more dangerous out of Nightfall is that the teleport takes a lot longer so I spend more time seeing locker activity. In Nightfall, I'll use up all my tokens in a few seconds and now I'm probably chasing someone.

I don't think Dredge is really strong but requires situational awareness and strategy to overcome. I've beaten SWFs on my Artist that would have wrecked me if I had played Dredge but the Dredge is super fun. I think I've escaped from about 80% of the Dredges I've played in solo (generally I'm about a 55% escape rate) because the Dredge is new and his potential isn't always used. As well, I understand the mechanics pretty well so that helps to counter.

Also too, I've been able to kill most groups I've faced as Dredge but part of that is also because when I see 3 or 4 survivors play flans during this event I two hook and let everyone go (unless they BM or let a teammate one hook) so my MMR might be lower than normal.

Since the Dredge is new, I've also seen survivors try to hide behind a small tree or in a bush, etc in Nightfall. It's like you're glowing so bright I practically need sunglasses to look at you; do you really think I'm not going to see any portion of your survivor that isn't totally obscured? If the Dredge has line of sight in Nightfall and the player isn't visually impaired you've just been spotted. A lot of players don't seem to know that.

Anyway, I hope that was helpful as well.

I'm still experimenting but I'll probably end up with Call of Brine, Discordance, Darkness Revealed and probably Sloppy Butcher.

Discordance I find to be fantastic on Dredge since the time to get to the gen is so much lower than any other killer. I can actually do something with that information now instead of having the gen pop while I'm on the way.

Darkness Revealed also pairs so well with the teleports and Call of Brine gives me info as well as being gen regression.

Sloppy will probably beat out BBQ and Floods of Rage since, unlike Killers like the Artist, the Dredge can't do anything more than a regular killer if survivors aren't by lockers and I already have two pure info perks. Besides, my playstyle has a lot of gen defence and knowing a survivor is a 20 second walk away doesn't do much except give more gen time for survivors. When I run Tilling Blade (which gives Sloppy when a survivor is injured from healthy during Nightfall) I can experiment. Tilling is a purple though so I won't have it for most of my matches.

Also, there's an add-on I like that significantly increases the speed at which having survivors injured contributes to Nightfall. Having as much Nightfall uptime as possible is extremely helpful since the teleport is practically instantaneous and stealth is nearly impossible in Nightfall. To help maximize my time in Nightfall I keep survivors injured as much as possible and, unless there's a need and it's the right call to walk, I teleport for my patrols.

Also, teleporting to a locker to cut a survivor off or change the angle of approach is really good for mind games since the Dredge is Undetectable during Nightfall as well. If I'm not in Nightfall it's not as good as in Nightfall for mind games but that teleport just helped me get to Nightfall sooner.

Thanks, you as well!

Yeah an early hook suicide / DC is usually an immediate game over for the Survivor team. That's why I hate them so much - especially combined with the SoloQ experience you just described where you pair up with lesser exxperienced players that therefore have a much harder time to try and turn the game around. My best advise here is to just not take those games serious. You lost, so just go and have some fun - you know it was neither your nor your teams fault (referring to the 2 that remained - its 100% the ragequitters fault), so don't let it drag you down, you did your best.

And I completely get what you said about not finding gens, it can be really difficult on that map. That said, there are a couple of tricks you can use to navigate indoor maps and look out for gens from a distance - in The Game any time you see a closed off large metal door, there is guaranteed to be a generator next to it, so keep an eye out for those. In the Treatment Theatre you can spot generators by looking out for the rooms electric signs and when they are blinking instead of normally glowing, an unrepaired generator is in that room.

As for facing Dredge on The Game specifically, I would say there are overall 2 generators you need to look out for:

1. The meatgrinder generator you were mentioning upstairs
2. The bathroom generator next to the basement downstairs

So any time you see you go up against a Dredge on this particular map, make sure to contest these generators first before it gets a snowball going.

Also, and this is a bit of a lesser known fact, but any time you see a group of lockers next to one another, you only need to lock one of the two, as the Dredge has a, IMO questionable, mechanic where it is guaranteed to enter the locked locker when teleporting to this group of lockers, allowing you to essentially lock them as many times as you have lockers there.

Good luck with your next The Game Dredge! :D