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Hot take: body blocking the killer shouldn’t be thing
It’s never made sense, not from a gameplay or lore perspective. It’s always felt like an unintended bug that was just left in
why is a scrawny survivor able to push around a big scary killer? I thought killer was meant to be the power role?
Isn’t the whole point of survivors that they’re weak individually, only be coming together are they able to overcome the odds and potentially survive? Escape! That’s “escape” not “bully”
Killers should never be in a situation where they’re unable to chase a specific survivor because someone is blocking a doorway or running in front of them altering their trajectory
and before you say “just hit the survivor blocking you” what if they have BT? What if you know they have DS so downing them wouldn’t make a difference anyway? What if it’s endgame and you know they have DH and are on route to the exit gates and hitting them would mean a definite escape for everyone?
see the problem. Maybe allow killers to lose their collision on demand, or at least make survivors lose collision during the endurance status effect to stop the obnoxious BT body block
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The whole "Does not make sense so it should not be in the game" argument is invalid
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I was merely pointing out that in a game where you play as a powerful/ monstrous/ supernatural killer, not being able to push a tiny survivor to the side and get through a doorway doesn’t exactly make you feel powerful
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I play Killer mostly nowadays, and even I have to disagree with you. Truth be told, it actually makes sense gameplay wise
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Honestly if i'm carrying a survivor and the other 3 want body block to free the other and they all end up injured, l see that as an absolute win.
Body block is fine.
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Pray tell how shoving a survivor to the side would be any more effective then simply *hitting them with your weapon which forces them to move if they don't want to go down*?
It's a cooperative game, and the ability to bodyblock to buy time is an altruistic move.
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By that logic, why is wiggling off/being rescued via blind a thing?
Because it is a video game.
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Play sadako, she loses collision on demand
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Seeing a 100 lbs girl blocking a few hundred lbs of muscled Goliath known as a wrecking ball is amusing at best.
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The only issue I have with bodyblocking is when the killers field of view makes it unclear that you can't move because of being blocked or because the survivor on you is wiggling. Also annoying when you hit a totem on Coldwind farm in the corn, I've double backed a few times because I thought I bumped into a survivor only to find a totem. If a survivor is touching you/body blocking you, you should absolutely know about it without moving your eyes in their direction.
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So you think BT body blocking is fine?
BT is an anti tunnel perk, if you’re blocking the killer from hitting someone else then you ain’t being tunnelled, you should 100% lose collision during the endurance status effect
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bt body blocking is def a lil problem i will agree
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How would it be more effective? Okay then what about if the body blocker has BT and safe from going down? What if the gates are open and you’re chasing an injured survivor but there’s a healthy survivor blocking your path and hitting him would ensure they both escape? What if healthy survivors are taking it in turns to body block a hook while you’re carrying someone, buying them enough time to wiggle off?
there’s plenty of situations where “shoving someone aside” I.e losing your collision would be more beneficial than hitting them
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body blocking is fine but bt body blocking absolutely should not be a thing. The sort of gameplay mechanics that allow survivors to bully the killer completely destroys the horror aspect of the game and feels forced to appease the survivors that suck at the game imo
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I can totally see Jane or Jeff easily blocking a Legion or my lil Piggy, but logical physics have never been a big concern in this game.
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Body blocking is fine, it's strategic and I'd say balanced.
What's not fine is abusing 3rd health state perks that are "supposed" to be there to prevent tunneling but are instead used to give 3rd health states to the rescuer.
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“Makes no sense” bro…it’s a game. If it were real life do u really think anyone would survive a punch from nemesis? Let alone 2?
and OF COURSE it makes sense gameplay wise. Altruism is an in game category that awards bp for such actions.
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your logic falls apart when the killer is a Hag, Pig, Legion, or anyone who isn't a "Big scary killer" as you describe
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For real, even if they're body blocking with BT, like I just hit them and they can spend time mending and I can simply continue going after the unhooker. Some people act like it costs them IRL money to smack someone an extra time
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BT body blocking shouldn't be a thing. Normal body blocking absolutely should.
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Just bring mad grit, funny times
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so you think survivors SHOULDN'T be allowed to risk their own demise to save an ally on death hook?
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Body blocking is annoying especially with BT.
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If Micheal Myers, Trapper, legion, or whoever were real, and chasing my friend through a door, would me body-blocking the killer after my friend passed through stop the killer? Yes. What would/should the killer do? Hit me with their weapon. IF the killer being all-powerful were really to be followed for every little detail, then every hit should be a one-time insta-kill should it not? Tons of stuff in the game doesn't follow logic. If I'm beefy Myers, and have a survivor on my shoulder, you think a flashlight is going to make me drop them? NEWP (a flashbang would do it tho LOL).
Its just being questioned bc its something that keeps you from achieving your goal which is catching someone, getting them to hook, ect. But it adds to the strategy IMO, and body blocking (to my dismay when I play survivor, and delight when I play killer) is often overdone, and usually not done when it will actually make a difference. Survivors body-blocking me when I have their teammate and I'm 10 meters from the hook does NOTHING for them but gives me free hits they then have to waste time to heal, or give me a down if I catch them. Its risk/reward for survivors and that adds to the fun is all I'm saying.
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Yeah I don't think anyone is standing in Michael Myers way without him gutting them or pushing them and crushing there head up against a wall in the lore but this is a video game unfortunately lol
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A teenager like Nea body blocking the Nemesis. This game is a joke lol.
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You say that survivors are supposed to work together to overcome the odds: isn't that what body-blocking/taking hits is? I agree BT body-blocking can be a little obnoxious at times, but generally speaking, I see no problem with it.
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Lets be real, killer hooks should swivel for killer too and allow hooking from more than just the front angles of hooks.
Swivel hooks were added to allow survs unhook from multi-angle but survs can still bodyblock hook prompt for killer, this is unfair design that is relic and needs be changed so killers can hook from back angles too
if killers can no longer block hook prompts survs should not be able to either
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There is a big difference between a Survivor bodyblocking a Hook and a Killer bodyblocking a Hook.
If the Survivor blocks it, the Killer can hit M1. Often enough this is more beneficial for the Killer.
If the Killer blocked the Hook back then, there was 0 chance for the Survivor to get unhooked.
Comparing them is pretty wrong.
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I should have mentioned the goto-reply is "hit them" , yeah hit all 3 survs.... as I said swivel hooks for killers when? If blocking hook prompts was wrong then its wrong now.
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The hook swivel is already there?????
You quite literally can suction someone onto a hook from anywhere close to it.
It is near impossible to block the hook now if you are the only other Survivor there.
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"is near impossible to block the hook now if you are the only other Survivor there."
I hardly ever get 1 surv blocking a hook, what I reference is 3 survs blocking hook prompt.
If you arent getttiing body blocked by 2-3 at a hook you not versing same teams I do. I feel blocking prompts is unintended, if killers blocking unhook prompts was an exploit, blocking hook prompts is too.
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ps I dont mind body blocking, but blocking a prompt, is entirely diff.
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Killers block prompts for pallets and windows all the time.
I think what you are trying to say here is that it's perfectly fine for Killers to do it, but it's some egregious exploit when anyone else does.
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Don't speak for me, were you around in 2017? I was and I supported swivel hooks and agreed blocking unhook prompt was unfair,.... but go ahead make things up.
we are discussing hook prompts body blocking. As I said above: "ps I dont mind body blocking, but blocking a prompt, is entirely diff." I dont mind bodyblocking we are talking about blocking prompts at hooks.
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Mad Grit and Starstruck are your best friends.
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She loses the game too
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I've played since beta in 2016.
Yes, I was around when there was no way to unhook.
Killer blocking an unhook and Survivor blocking a hook are completely different.
There are even perks for this????????
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As a Mikey main, if I'm not in tier 3 I just stalk and I phase right through them. They never expect it.
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That is fine, I don't expect everyone to agree with me.
What I took issue with, was you telling me I support killers using exploits while being biased towards survivors. I play surv every single day and sometimes do not even play killer in my session so to project that sort of bias is silly when I have supported swivel hooks in public since 2017 when they were added.
I do not support either side using exploits, you could have debated my comment without the accusation. I play both sides enough to form my own opinion that one side blocking an unhook is the same mechanically as the other side blocking hooks.
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You mean like calling 99'ing a door an exploit? Lmao
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ok now not even sure what you referencing 99ing a door in reponse to a post about you claiming I support exploits.
Just going to ignore you, you are reaching for all kinds of things after your accusations fell through. Try to stick to the topic please, no idea where you going now.
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She can also pull off the tomfoolery with rancor
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As a killer player there's a very easy way to combat this; Run Mad Grit
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But blinding killers with a flashlight and stunning them with pallets is realistic? Gtfoh
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Can't say there's anything wrong with it, since it actually promotes team work. Having both faced survivors who do this and been a survivor who has done this, this mechanic should stay. Survivors should not be completely helpless.
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Just bring starstruck.
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It thematically makes sense. A person jumping in front of the masked psycho thats been targeting the same vulnerable person since the start of the movie. By jumping in front of the psycho they are probably going to get hurt, but it will give valuable time for the other person to escape.
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Endurance should def cause loss of collision, but a normal healthy survivor should be allowed to bodyblock, as sometimes its a survivors last line of defense
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Survivors already don't have that many tools against killer.
Don't take protection hits away from them too... Taking the heat off of a teammate's back is not bullying by any means.
It's the point : acting collectively to survive.
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Yes, hit all 3 survivors with your chainsaw. What are they going to do about it?
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