Solo Q rant. Again.
The past 2 days of solo Q have been miserable and I'm pretty sure I'm stuck at low MMR hell right now.
I have people suiciding and dcing at 4/5 gens, which gives the killer a free 4k 99% of the time.
I had random team mates with 20-50 hours in my lobby when I have more than 5500 hours.
I have been using the same build on all my games now (kindred, bond, lithe and inner strength) already getting ready for the new nerfs (since I used spine chill and iron will instead of bond and inner.
People farming off hook, not taking hits, not doing gens, sandbaggers, dcers/suicides.
What is someone in my situation supposed to do? SWF? My friends have all left the game because of how grindy it is to new players. I don't even try to get more people to buy this game because it's just a waste of time even with the "nerf" to the grind it's still going to be a nightmare for new players.
I can't join the official dbd discord either because I have been banned more than 2 years ago for telling a friend of mine as a joke and I quote "delete yourself". I have tried to appeal it 3 times for it to be denied all the time.
I have created a thread on here on the find players section just to get people who don't even play or weirdos asking me if I like p*rn. Yea, I wish I was joking.
Considering we arent getting any solo Q QOL or buffs this year at all, why should I keep playing? Games are supposed to be fun, and being stuck with people with 20 hours is not fun.
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That's rough. And before you knee-jerk assume I'm trying to get a rise out of you, I mean that sincerely.
They need to remove your discord ban.
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This game is a complete waste of anyone's time. YW Sincerely a dev.
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I understand what you mean, it really isn't fun.
There are many Discord servers out there though where people play DBD.
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They wont. They needed to "investigate" someone who was calling people slurs in direct messages but me saying "delete yourself" as a joke to a FRIEND? Perma ban and cant appeal.
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That's on you for posting memes in general while discord mods are around
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I would wait for the patch, maybe they backpedal in some decissions or decide to push stuff that wasnt supposed to be released yet because backlash, I strongly recomend keep making the "I FEEL MISERABLE AND I WANT TO CRY WHILE SOLO!!" threads going, they worked for Killers so theyll work for us Solos too eventually, we have a saying here "those who dont cry dont get breastfeed" (essentially those who dont/wont complain wont get attention).
Other than that and seeing the last survey I would be kissing Solo byebye, mainly because there were a lot of questions related to "an option to keep playing with random Survivors Ive been paired with" and stuff like that, like they intend to "force" people to SWF or at least a patched-up watered down version of SWF.
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No fun allowed. Serious talk only.
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I hate to be negative but from experience even if people cry enough about something the devs have too much pride to understand when they overdid something.
Just look at billy and deathslinger nerfs, when old animations and UI came out etc. PTB is just a showcase, they barely change anything from PTB to live.
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@MandyTalk, this guy is a regular pain in my butt sometimes but nobody deserves soloQ, especially over something so silly. Is there really nothing that can be done?
DBD doesn't have to be perfect, but it needs to care about its player base, sometimes that means showing some compassion.
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I think those are instances of the matchmaker trying to "balance" the lobby and split the difference between lower MMR survivors, higher MMR survivors, and an average killer.
If that is the case, I'd to see them move away from that matchmaking condition. It just doesn't work. It's unfun for everyone in that lobby. The inexperienced survivors are way overmatched and the experienced survivors are frustrated that they're losing to what is in all likelihood a much worse killer than them.
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My escape rate is around 40% on solo-q. But i know there is some super survivors have 99,99% escape rate on solo-q. I am not one of them.
Solo-q needs some information and coordination buffs. It is just feels unfair because SWF has this for free.
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Yeah I dont think the PTB will change much on release, probably the Endurance stacking and Overcharge are going to get toned down but the rest is going to be left as is. But if enough people complain over and over and over theyll have to listen, with the HUD worked and Killer mains have been crying their eyes out here since, well since forever, but the last year has been especially weepy, they eventually gave them the world.
P.D. I hope, as in a monkey paw karmic wish, Killer mains will have to face only SWFs after the patch because all Solos quit the game.
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The issue is when you find that truly dumpster level of match-making where your teammates are actually potatoes. At that point you're better off running a hatch lockdown build and just constantly hatching until you have a chance to actually get out of the gates and raise your MMR.
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Hatch does not rise your mmr. And mmr is weird anyway. I don't think mmr is working for match you with equal players. It is trying to make queues faster.
I can not prove that but i can tell this from my exp.
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I know hatch does not raise your MMR, but it keeps it neutral while you search for the rare gate escapes that truly low MMR hell provides.
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Yea it's not like I'm getting potato killers either, but lately I've been getting a lot more onis/trappers when I was mostly getting blights and nurses before.
If matchmaking really is working, I'm really low on it and it's impossible to escape this now unless I play swf
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I mostly have a SWF, but I've genuinely been considering a SoloQ build for when I'm bored:
Distortion, Clairvoyance, Lucky Break (You have to lose the chase, if you don't, the whole strat is pointless), Circle Of Healing or Self Care, bring a key with a fat aura addon.
Bless first and foremost, break chases as soon as possible, only go on the safest gens. Stay immersed, identify hatch. If you can hatch every game, the few gate escapes you get will raise your MMR. It would be a slog but at low MMR against trappers and onis I don't see it being impossible.
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The average solo q experience these past 2 days. This happening as we speak, one elodie just sandbagged everyone else because she didnt like going against a blight.
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I don't really have a problem with having my aura read and losing the killer in chase. I'm not an amazing pro but I think I'm not a potato either.
It's not even about people being bad at chases right now, it's them just giving up. They dont even try.
And like someone else said and you know, hatch is not gonna get me to a higher MMR so what is the point. Staying here or going lower it's gonna be the same at this point imo.
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But hatch does prevent you getting sacrificed, and that's a must if you're going to crawl out of the SoloQ basement. And I'm not suggesting your a potato, I'm suggesting you bring the best possible loadout to hatch/escape every game so you can start getting somewhat better teammates. That aura reading, while not necessary, is a huge plus if the killer is looking for you around tall objects and you want to make sure they never see you.
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It's possible to escape, but you may not like the playstyle it requires. I'm always split from the rest of my team and always on a gen. Super safe in chases and only take chase id the killer actually patrols to me and finds me. And I always run Wake Up to open the gate and gain MMR if it comes down to a hatch situation. It has saved me countless times.
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I don't mind getting sacrificed. The only thing that bothers me about it is because I know it will lower my MMR and put me with new players again. If I knew my MMR was able to get higher by simply playing the game (winning chases, doing gens, doing saves) I wouldn't care about getting sacrificed at all. I'm at a point that BP is not even important to me anymore since I only missing p3 50 3 killers currently, everyone else is there already.
I might have to start using wake up again like someone suggested, since my main goal right now is not get hatch, but do get a gate and escape though one so it actually hopefully starts getting higher again.
I guess I'll have to try wake up and ig add spinechill to that too for the end game gates by myself...
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I've never disagreed that getting gate is the priority, but where you don't get gate, you really do need hatch to make sure you don't flatline on MMR.
Edit: Because we don't get to pick and choose the gate spawns or the killer and their mobility.
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I only solo que and do just fine, though the last two days after the PTB have been rather rough. I played about 7 killer games without getting a single kill, just getting straight ######### on by the survivors, and also getting the beat down by killers. Then, like magic everything turned around and the games became much more enjoyable and fun to play. My guess is the MMR leveled itself out. Hopefully after the update thing will be better because I had a much more enjoyable experience over there.
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I'm glad you arent getting players with 20 hours so i guess you're doing "fine".
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Well we also got a brand new Bubba, with only 1 perk equipped who DC'd almost immediately because he couldn't catch anyone, so I'm willing to bet that dude wasn't having a very good time either.
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This is not a thread about new killers/survivors going against people with thousands of hours. This is a thread about solo q survivors like myself having people in their teams with less than 2% of playtime than themselves and being stuck at low MMR without a way to get it higher without having to hide in a bush all game and pray to the gods that the gates are far away from each other and the killer is slow or simply just going SWF, which is not a possibility for me.
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I got like 700+ hours in the game and have owned it since release, so I'm not exactly a newbie myself, but I don't have any complaints about low MMR team mates. A Survivor ALWAYS has a chance to escape, you just gotta play your cards right. If your teammates are ######### and falling like flies, you gotta change your game plan. The hatch is gonna spawn at the end of the game, you just gotta focus on not getting found, and finding that hatch. IMO, that odds should be against the survivor, you should be struggling and finding your path to escape. If your only hope is the hatch, then you better be preparing to either find that son of a ######### asap, or out run the killer while looking for it.
He'll, I even support bringing a key to the black lock if you're having that hard of a time, to get that damn lock open if it's been closed.
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After the event I decided to take a break. I am really enjoying Tiny Tina's Wonderlands rn and I hope that game is gonna keep me busy for a while cause I have the same experience as you have.
I play soloq 95% of my time, 4% I duoq and the remaining 1% I play in an actual 4 stack. Like yours most of my friends stopped playing but not mainly because of the grind but because the other side can make your game so miserable. NO ONE wants to play with their friends just to immediately get tunneled out of the game, despite 3 other people trying to take hits and then have to watch their friends finish play the game for the next ~10 minutes.
Soloq is in a HORRIBLE state and it will get even worse next update - especially with that Selfcare nerf. I already KNOW my teammates will run it without any other perks like Botany or a Medi-Kit and I also already know they will still use it to heal in situations like perma tier 3 Myers, Legion and Sloppy Butcher killers.
I might try to become a full-time killer main but I never really enjoyed that role as mh as survivor so the chances are high I am just gonna completely stop playing DBD eventually. One can only endure so much before one has to accept the devs clearly don't give a single F about that one part of their game called "soloq".
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I know I should have stopped reading at "I have no complaints about low mmr team mates. but I guess I'll reply to the rest.
A survivor DOES NOT has a chance to escape always. There are multiple ways that what you just said it's factually incorrect, but I'm too lazy to name those, if you really have 700 hours and decide to think a bit, I'm sure you'll change your conclusion as well.
And please read the other posts. Idc about hatch escapes since it doesnt higher my MMR so it's useless to me.
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Yea at this point I think if I am to keep playing DBD I'll just play killer instead.
Only reason I play survivor more than killer is because having to keep track of 4 people at the same time gives me anxiety but with the frustration solo q is causing me right now I guess I'll take the anxiety where I at least only have to rely on myself and only have myself to blame, than being stuck at low mmr solo q and knowing the outcome of the match doesnt really depend on how I play.
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Uh, it's pretty infamous that the SBMM is based upon kills/escapes so escaping the trial by hatch 100% will increase your MMR. I'm sorry to tell you my dude, but you have failed to change along with the game, you still think this is some sort of "harass the killer until everyone escapes" game and it is not. The Killer's job is to kill you all, nothing more and nothing less. Expecting the killer to just get ######### on the entire game and chase you and your party out while y'all clicky clicky and t-bag him days are gone. This game is winner take all, and IMO a proper game ends with a single survivor hopping through that hatch.
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You're wrong. Escapes through the hatch do not count for your MMR.
I'm sorry to tell you "my dude" but at least do some research instead of coming on here and trying to educate wrongly.
Edit: I decided to read the rest of your post and honestly you aren't doing anything in this thread besides being a troll. Go troll somewhere else. This is not a "killer good survivor bad" post like you are trying to make it to be. I dont teabag or click my flashlight, I dont even use items. So stop assuming crap.
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Add me on discord bro
we can help you
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Marvin#7735
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When survivor experience sucks I play killer and vice versa.
Sometimes they both suck and I play something else.
Yeah MMR based solely on outcome rather than contribution is kinda crappy, but people also hated contribution based ranks so whatcha gonna do eh?
Rant about it on the forums I guess.
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Such a bad take
Both sides should have a chance to win for it to be a proper game
Saying someone has 'failed to change' is just an ignorant way to dismiss people's experiences
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Cry all you want bro, I'll be making escapes.
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The best time to not comment was when you posted this, the second best time is the next time you consider it if it's this useless of a comment.
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I'm gonna make you read this one also.
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Well when solo q is so bad that's what will happen. People will either quit or join a swf or you'll have the third option where there is solo q but killers just stomp them and it just becomes like shooting fish in a barrel kind thing where its just too boring.
Either way, myself personally I'm giving up in solo q and only playing swf. People can hate all they want but my games are alot better and more fun. Even if I die sometimes, I know my team were doing something and not just sitting at the edge of the map waiting for the third survivor to die to get the hatch or the gate.
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It's almost like theres not a good SBMM system in place, who would of thought escapes didnt show skill lol
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"BT is clearly useless why would anyone run it" has become my new madness mantra for solo-queue.
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Mods cant check what is meant serious and what not and you just gave them extra work.
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Oh I did message the one who banned me multiple times explaining how I was talking with a friend and it wasnt serious. They said they didnt care.
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According to some people on these forums, SBMM is working as intended and if I'm getting 20 hour megs on my team means that is my skill set.
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Not saying a perma ban is justified but something like that still doesnt belong there, even if its just a joke.
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BT isnt useless, but the nerfed version that is only 5 seconds is.
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Saying "delete yourself" to a friend because he was playing huntress is not even worth a warning.
But again why am I even surprised when they banned people for calling victor a baby or saying their bee joke on april fools day wasnt funny.
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It probably is working as intended, the systems just bad lol.
I get new player too some games and I'm a sweat and escape alot, it's just random BS some days/games.
Escapes should never be used for mmr, I have carried so very bad players higher just because I carried way harder than I should have
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