The Next Original Survivor Should Be Non-Binary Gender
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Let the devs decide who will be who.
It doesn't have to be the next one. It doesn't have to be the 10th one. It can be the 1st one or the 3rd one.
I personaly don't care.
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Ofcourse devs will decide but we have not any trans character in game.
So at least we should have one and sadly these people are not shown much in the media. So i care about this.
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I want a binary transgender person.
With so many celebs now coming out as nonbinary I feel like binary trans people just kind of get erased from existence, specially trans men.
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I'd be all for this, hell yeah.
Trans characters in general would be fantastic.
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Depends how it’s executed. In the case of a transgender survivor, I know that there is a stereotype of all trans people being drag queens, etc. so I hope that if BHVR adds one, they take a different route than that since that survivor would be representing the entire trans community.
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I agree with that. DbD needs at least one.
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Absolutely ######### it the next 3 years worth of characters are all LGBT+ in some regard. It would be glorious.
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Yeah, already said so in a other thread! Doesn’t need to be the very next original of course or the next LGBTQ+ character in general, as there are so many different kind of representations we still can see
thats not how erasure works, what are those celebs supposed to do if they are non-binary and not trans men after all..?
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Depends if it benefits them enough to actually do it.
David being gay/bi was extremely safe and the LGBT+ (Mostly the first three) are an extremely powerful network in business, so it made sense to get a good image. Especially when playing it double-safe with an already established character that's loved. I'm not so sure how beneficial a non-binary character would be to the company. Might be, might not be.
I'm not one to care about representation (Do not use this to assume anything), because in the end it's just me being marketed to. My healthy entourage validates me enough. Maybe people need more of that.
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They can not make anything about licensed characters but yeah, we should get more LGBT+ characters in next years.
Or maybe add more lore for some old characters. I am pretty sure Claud is asexual and Yui is lesbian. At least their lores gives me these feels.
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i dont like the woke idea of having every walk of life being represented in media, esp. in games. sexual orientation or gender shouldn't even be a thing in a horror game.
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I'd take some non-binary finery if that is what BHVR wishes to create
I'm not a big fan of companies forcing it (since that almost always makes it just awful as companies trying to force it don't care and companies that don't care will just be sure it checks all the boxes and send them out without a worry of quality) but BHVR at least on the surface seems committed to doing it and doing it right.
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At least educate yourself before you mention the topic. If you're nonbinary you're trans.
Trans just means you aren't cisgender.
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But sexual orientations are already exists in DbD for years. I never saw anyone complained about David's girl friend, Nurse's husband or Felix's girl friend etc.
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I think they should make a bunch of the new original characters part of LGBT+. Make it regular in DBD instead of rare.
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Every single character in DBD is LGBT+ unless explicitly confirmed otherwise that they are cisgender heterosexual. 😎 Nurse/Felix could be bi or in the closet.
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With so many celebs now coming out as nonbinary I feel like binary trans people just kind of get erased from existence, specially trans men.
i was merely responding to the quote, it should be obvious what I was talking about (if you weren’t trying to misunderstand of course - but I corrected it for you)
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Yeah I hope BHVR doesn’t just represent L and G. There’s so many others in the LGBT+ community that deserve representation as well.
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Erasure works by having people over represented and others not so much.
Idk why you had to try to talk over me, again, when all I said was that I wanted a binary trans person in the game. I'm not opposed to them adding nonbinary characters, I just wish they wouldnt stop at.
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What is it with you and being constantly rude to people who just didn’t know better?
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You were talking about real people coming out as non-binary and how it feels like erasure.
if all you said was you wanted a binary trans person in game I wouldn’t have said anything to it at all.
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Yep, no reason not to.
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I was talking about representation in media, which celebrities are part of.
You didn't have to say anything at all to me in the first place.
And here you are trying to argued with me again for no reason.
Guess you people are only pro LGBT+ when those same LGBT+ people agree with you and have no mind of their own
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If you don't like characters from backgrounds you are unfamiliar with you can say that.
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(I mean I didn’t want to start that discussion but you can be non-binary but not trans after all… e.g. being born intersex)
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No you cant. Being intersex doesnt make someone non binary. An intersex person can identify as a woman or a man,
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Chooses to be unnecessarily rude and combative from the get-go, complains when called out and plays the victim. Newsflash, people disagreeing with you doesn’t mean they are against LGBT+. If you don’t want people to respond to you, don’t post on a public forum, genius.
intersex =/= non-binary, intersex is sex, non-binary is gender. Also regarding the earlier point, some non-binary people consider themselves also trans, others don’t. It’s an arbitrary line.
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Yes an intersex person can identify as a woman or a man. Doesn’t mean there is no other way.
what about a person being born with both male and female biology, who isn’t raised as one specific gender and doesn’t choose one? That sounds to me like non-binary but not trans..
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Hm no.
Cisgender: Someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth.
Transgender: Someone who doesn't identify with the gender they were assigned at birth.
Nonbinary: Someone who doesn't identify as a man or a woman.
So by definition, if someone is nonbinary they are trans, because NO ONE gets assigned "nonbinary" at birth.
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So me being raised as a female, makes me one? Damn, would have saved me a lot of money with hormones and surgery if I knew all I had was to be raised as one thing to be that thing.
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Fun fact, you are not the sole authority. Some non-binary people do not consider themselves to be trans. Also, you can be a non-binary woman/man.
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i was talking about a person that wasn’t raised as one specific (binary) gender nor did they choose a specific (binary) gender. How is that in any way related to you and your gender?
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LOL no you cannot be a nonbinary man/woman, because man and woman are binary genders.
People stop talking over me, I am trans and you are spreading misinformation and making it harder for trans people like me to get accepted because you keep spreading nonsense
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Omg so we're making everyone non-binary and aro/ace? That sound sick I completely agree !!
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Because by your logic someone is what they were raised as.
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You don’t get to determine other people’s gender.
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Do you know the exact term to define ppl that do not accept that some ppl have a different mind about something and behave aggressively toward these ppl ?
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No, not at all. Read it again. I talked about a specific person that was raised as something and didn’t choose differently later in their life. That is not translatable to every other person and isn’t disregarding those that live differently.
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I'll be glad for the next original Survivor to be non-binary. I mean, if it helps for representation, then yes, I'll be happy for the ones who wants to play with them because they have something in common.
I like to play characters who have something in common with me, like Kate has tattoos, Felix is introvert, Mikaela writes stories...
Some people don't care, and I think that if you don't care, you shouldn't be against. And if you're against... Don't talk to me. I'm no part of the LGBTQ+ community, but I'm for all kind of representation for people who want/need it.
We're all different, so that's good to have different Survivors. It's only a video game but for some, and I'm part of these some, it's important to create a bond with their virtual characters.
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Being trans does not make you correct on matters. There are trans transphobes (eg, truscum), gay/lesbian homophobes, etc. Stop playing the victim. Other LGBT+ people are disagreeing with you.
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Where did I try to determine someone's gender?
I'm just educating you, as a trans person, on what trans is, since you clearly don't know and are spreading misinformation.
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Some people don't care, and I think that if you don't care, you shouldn't be against
Literally this.
If you don't care about something then by definition you do not have an opinion either way about it. I don't get why this is such a difficult concept for many people to grasp; if you don't care but here's why you don't want it, actually, then at least just admitting to caring
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Except Felix, we love same survivors. I love Kate because her personality fits with me. And i love Mikaela because i also love tell stories.
I am not part of LGBT+ community but i respect them and i wanna see them more in DbD.
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You aren't educating jackshit. You are not an authority on it, and being trans does not make you correct. FYI, I am non-binary and pan. You are being exclusionary of other trans identities despite being trans yourself.
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Just because you're LGBT+ and disagree with me doesnt make me wrong.
Why should I care if you're LGBT+ or not? Are you both transgender?
Imagine if I went to a lesbian and tried to tell her what a lesbian is, when I'm not one. It's pathetic isnt it? Always the same 2 piling up on me and trying to silence me when I try to mention trans people, on an LGBT+ thread.
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I'm okay with it, but I'd prefer an 80 pound golden doodle to be the next survivor. This game needs a dog.
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i'm down
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So by your definition, you being nonbinary doesnt make you trans, so why are you, a nonbinary person, trying to tell me, a trans person, what trans is?
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Okay okay hear me out here
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No dogs don’t deserve this!
i would rather see them as pet-able npcs
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