How many Survivors are gonna stop playing after the update next Tuesday?

Oh my bad then, ye in general its a whole different topic that is true. However I do see this often where ppl very very often overreact nor even understand what they are "hating" on.

The Killer has more incentive to go after a newly rescued survivor that is guaranteed to not have DS. Your argument is based on the wrong assumption that the only way the killer can get a kill at five gens is to tunnel. That isn't true but I don't know your skill level as a killer, so perhaps that might be the case for you. I can't help you any further.

I was wondering the same thing like did I miss something where it said only one gen can progress at a time.

I'm talking about at the five generator completed mark, which is when DS and OTR are deactivated. You're the one conflating and confused. You must be under the impression that those perks are only deactivated during EGC.

I read your post and properly addressed it, I suppose this now comes down to your skill level as a killer. If you think the only way to get kills after five generators are completed is to tunnel and camp, then that is more of a reflection of your ability or inability as a killer.

No, I just think the beneficial changes to survivor that will allow survivors to play longer are far more important than losing the ability to DS the Killer and DH out the exit gate. It was, if the Killer thought the survivor had DS and would make it to endgame, usually better to tunnel to avoid the free escape of DS. Endgame should not be an automatic escape but the game is more fun if survivors make it to end game; both of these the update helps with.

By the way, here is your reply where you are not clear about what you're talking about even though I was discussing end game.

Before saying people are confused it's better to actually be clear in your communication. The match is much longer than just the endgame.

"overall buff to facecamping" this alone explains everything about you xD Not trying to shame you or something but you do seem to take most of the stuff here to the extreme or you are just trolling. Either way I am not really interested spending my time trying to explain anything to you.

Honestly gonna continue playing it after the new update even thou I think it is stupid of them to ruin Iron Will and make it 75% instead of 100%. I'm ok with most of the changes and I love playing the game. Have since I first started playing it a year or 2 ago with friends.

I'm excited for the fact that after the update. Every survivor I own will have the perks on them that I need to level and prestige them as many times as I can. Which means I will be able to play as any survivor in game instead of being able to only play the 4 or 5 that have the perks I need on them.

What I wish the game would do is stop giving a tomboy survivor like Meg a bunch of outfits that are too girly for her to wear and make her look weird when u do put them on her and make more outfits like that for survivors they actually would look good on like Kate.

I’m probably going to play survivor more now that regression perks have been nerfed. No more Pain Res/DMS/Ruin is almost as exciting as no more Dead Hard. Almost.

And maybe now I’ll get better teammates that actually know how to play rather than people who are obviously carried by Dead Hard.

Legion is going to be very unfun

I doubt there will be much of a difference in playerbase tbh.

Yeah there's a few people who will probably leave because they think solos or survivor in general will be worse. But these are generally also the ones that heavily relied on the meta every single match to carry them through and they don't want to adapt or develop the skills necessary to be decent without them. And/or they think that camping is going to get worse, also generally the ones that think camping and tunneling happen every single game.

When in actuality, genuine and intentional camping really only happen in maybe 1 out of 10 matches. There's maybe 10% if not less of my survivors matches where I actually feel like the killer was playing unfairly or intentionally camping or tunneling.

90% of the time frustrations come with from my teammates, and are usually due to poor macro knowledge or knowledge of the game in general.

I think the few that do leave will probably be offset by the returning players. But most survivors probably won't leave, because the reason why they play the game is still there.

I do agree though that they shouldn't have waited years to mix up the meta. Hopefully going forward it'll be much more consistent with meta changes coming every 6 months to a year like a lot of games do.

Oh yes, that extra 1.8 seconds on a generator when all survivors are injured. Such an overwhelming buff. Especially with survivor healing being as plentiful and fast as it is.

The Pain Resonance/Dead Man Switch Combo is gone.

Pain Resonance will no longer give away which generator has the most progress or if survivors were working on it.

Pop Goes the Weasel is gone.

Corrupt Intervention deactivates as soon as someone is downed.

The buff that Overcharge got was destroyed to the point of making the perk worthless.

But please, go on about all of these unnecessary killer buffs.

I never played with the meta. I don't see any reason to stop

If people wants to leave the game because of that, please do, we dont need them

No you're kind of wrong everywhere here.

Eruption requires you to be constantly moving around the map kicking multiple generators to get a benefit out of it. That's preferential to camping, is it not?

The "buff" to Thanataphobia is so insignificant its pointless.

Overcharge was only buffed on the PTR, The condition its going to be in next week on live is going to make it a dead perk. It will only be used if someone is going to dedicate their selves to kicking generators as a build and they combine it with Call of Brine, but just tapping the generator stops that. It's not instant regression. It's 1 charge every 2 seconds and speeds up to just 1 charge per second after 30 seconds.

Gift of Pain is a Scourge Hook Perk. It should be strong because it requires a Scourge Hook, and that's not always a certainty. Not to mention that now people using Saboteur can SEE Scourge Hooks so Scourge Hooks are easy to priority sabotage now.

There's nothing wrong with Deadlock. It literally protects the progress of the next most progressed generator for a time letting survivors build up progress on another one and then when it's duration is over you've got two generators close to being done and you're in a better position.

You say camping and tunneling has been buffed with "Every single change" but that's not true. Everyone will be using Off The Record now not to mention getting a speed buff off of the hook, and if people start using Sprint Burst instead of Dead Hard that just means more Sprint Bursts away from hooks.

Also, there's nothing wrong with Dead Man's Switch. Outside of The Artist the killer is actually going to have to push you off the generator to use it, so you can't really complain about DMS being used and camping at the same time because there's only one killer who can do that and there's an audio cue for when she's going to try.