The killer is not your friend

I wholeheartedly disagree if you're talking about doing all of that and it being okay at 4/5 gens. At 2/3 gen? Tunneling and camping are fine, but before that.. that's just having bad map pressure.

When I play killer and notice an obvious skill difference I will def go easy on survivors. I'll hook everyone twice, maybe kill 2 but let 2 go. I don't miss out on any fun doing that.

As survivor, I absolutely love killers that show any bit of personality and aren't just your average 'killing-bots'. Killers that will stand beside my hook when the entity takes me or Ghostfaces that goof around despite still playing the game (e.g. getting hooks/kills) will always make me smile and enjoy the game more. Same for nodding Demo pups <3

If ur playing it the honest and fair way camping is not part of it. If u are playing dirty, camping becomes part of it. No matter how many times someone tries to justify it or say it's part of the game. It's not, it is something people do to make one survivor suffer while the others get to play the match normally and not have to worry about the killer at all. Getting bloodpoints for finishing generators all while u are stuck on the hook and can do nothing. How is it fair to do that to any one survivor in the game. It's not and that is why there should be a penalty that comes with doing it.

Also there's no other justifiable reason for doing camping other than it's a dirty tactic employed by people who don't want to play the game as it should be played and to ruin one Survivor's match. U can disagree with me all u want but at the end of the day camping is, was and always will be a dirty tactic by killers.

I'm not defining what is bad behaviour - the devs have done it themselves.

The bloodpoint system will actively 'punish' you for camping a hook, BT becoming basekit and the fact that devs have stated they want to make tunneling and camping more difficult, should speak volumes in the fact that camping around a hook (and tunneling that survivor if they DO get rescued) is disengagement from desired gameplay.

Yeah, you can argue that only doing gens and escaping is the objective, but that's not true, whatsoever. You wouldn't actively get points in the BP system for altruism or chase if they weren't intended as objectives. You wouldn't have pallets or windows that elongate a chase, if chasing wasn't part of survivor objective.

I don't know why you're trying to dissect what I say to prove me wrong, when if it wasn't deemed as inappropriate gameplay, then they wouldn't be looking to change and deter players from playing like that.

Depends on the situation.

If you're at 3 gens left and there's only two survivors left, and you find that Bill that keeps accidentally running into you and is clearly really trying his best, I'll let him off.

If I'm 4 gens down, only 3 hooks and the Claudette who's been running in my face the whole game tries it, it's hook time.

I feel for some survivors, I really do. That solo q person who the swf keeps running me into gets out. End of. Because some survivors seem to think I can't tell that they are running me into their team.

When I see a person die to first hook while their team just hides, I make sure to end them all. Survivor is something I personally find harder to play than killer skill wise, so I completely understand the frustration of dying to first hook. And the time I got hooked in the basement with kindred on and still died made me realise how bad solo q can be.

So all in all, I tend to think about how survivors feel when I play. Unless they're cocky. You know the ones.

Strangely enough, though, if you ARE merciless you will just increase your MMR and get sweaty game after sweaty game. I often don't want to 4k, just because I am shooting myself in the foot in the long run. DBD also is the only horror-themed game, were the killer might be scared to kill off the survivors, because it will result in more miserable games in the future.

You can only tunnel and camp when you're losing tbh, when I play 4,4ms killers on big maps I'm literally forced to camp everytime, that's why all tricksters and slingers camp you can't do anything else, definitely blame the game not players (they should do something about bubba tho)

Alright. That's your opinion. Doesn't make u right or anything. Just shows dbd is not for u if ur getting that mad over a in game mechanic that devs stated is a legit strategy. Not all players who camp are mean disrespectful people. And remember if ur getting mad over it just eat a kit Kat and take a small break. It just a game.

I can't agree more. I fought it for a while when i first played, wanting to camp/slug/tunnel. But going for hooks just ended with 4 teabags and clicking at the exit gates. I'm not even that high mmr as killer, the matchmaking has always matched average killers with higher skill survivors. Camping/tunnelling is way more consistent to secure at least a "draw" (2k). As stated in the original post, solid teams will just slam gens when they realize the killer is camping. which generally means 3 escape b/c it costs 1-2 gens to down the first survivor. the remaining 3 survivors can knock the last gens out before the hooked survivor dies (assuming they hit all the skill checks and don't rage quit).

All this to say, BT basekit was not needed. Survivors who don't know how to deal with camping killers just want to whine and not learn to play a different way.

"All those things u listed about survivors are stuff survivors should be doing to win matches. If it ruins the Killer's fun, there's nothing that can be done about it". EXACTLY like camping and tunneling. That was my point.

No one said you don't have the right to have an opinion, and I love when people act as if being pointed wrong is like not having freedom of speech. Just like you are allowed to have an opinion, I am allowed to say your opinion is wrong and it doesn't make sense.