Pig might actually be nerfed

They just buffed her, I think after some time they will re-adjust her addons and leave her base power as is. Probably

also @GoodBoyKaru your subscription feed leaked onto the forums again kappa

Good.

Some traditions are just too good to stop and that includes the Pig nerfs

I mean I would be confused if they nerf her, if their intent is to buff killrates...

I don't really care about nerfing her boxes as long they buff her primary ability. That would make her more interesting for me.

Boxes are just passive slowdown.

I mean, it is more likely that Pig gets nerfed compared to Nurse getting a Nerf. And if the changes require a Nerf to Pig, it is how it is.

But would be nice to see how long this build can exist, because if players have to prestige, they will get less purple Add Ons, since they are not doing Level 50-Bloodwebs all the time.

It changed from 30% to 25% not 33%, just a minor correction.

The in game description currently claims it increases box search time by 33% which is also technically correct.

12/.75 = 16 seconds to search a box

12×1.3333333333 = 16 seconds to search a box

I like Otz but I'll believe it when I see it if Pig gets nerfed. If the new box system were causing her to have too high a kill rate they probably would have already tweaked it by now.

Nah, Nurse is fine.

Just discovered a Japanese Twitter Account full of Nurse-videos of games which ended in under 2 minutes (many under 1 minute). So many Survivors having Skill Issues, I cannot believe it!

I'm saying that the pig shouldn't be able to reliably get head pops without pressuring survivors off of boxes. I don't see the pig needing to down you first being a huge difference to that, because a killer shouldn't be able to consistently get kills after a single down without being an active threat against that survivor. Combination of addons and maps that create situations where survivors cannot reasonable search all the boxes (on a consistent basis) without the pig running any kind of interference is a problem that deserves to dealt with.

Obviously if the survivor greeds or make mistakes on searching boxes, then it's still fair for them to die as they still had the opportunity to search the boxes they needed to, but failed to do so.

As much as I love to watch Otz and think he's on-point on much of what he talks about, anyone who thinks Pig suddenly needs "nerfing" (as one well-known troll has already stated in this thread), doesn't play Pig, or against her ... or survivor at anything resembling competency (and this is not a dig at Otz, who is a fantastic survivor player as well, but he's so above almost everyone he plays with/against in skill level, his opinions -- and those of other content creators who play on a different level -- often need to be taken with a grain of salt. It'd be like getting Michael Jordan's take on if pro basketball was "easy" because of how he dominated the sport -- there's no relation to how people of that skill level see what they do play out and the other 99% who do the same thing who just aren't on that level).

The Pig is a killer without high-mobility to get a snowball going early in-game (ala Nurse or Blight, as prime examples). She has an Ambush attack that is VERY situational and useless in countless loops that just are too big for her to capitalize on -- and other than that, she has NOTHING in her kit to help her in chase. Her stealth, with such a slow crouch speed, is nearly useless against anyone paying attention to their surroundings (at best, you'll get closer to start a chase or maybe a hit, but her stealth pales in comparison to GF, or Wraith, or even Myers in Tier 2 with Monitor).

So -- no legitmately dangerous stealth, nothing to help in chases, no insta-down potential (without the use of a perk to accompish it), and nothing to build towards in the endgame. ALL she has is innate slowdown through a secondary objective in the RBT's, and even those can be finicky -- if traps are on but no gen pops to activate them, they're literally cosmetics for the survivors until they come off -- and that's assuming you're getting all four traps on before a final gen pops.

THIS is a killer that anyone thinks should be nerfed? If you're losing to a Pig player, then either they legitmately outplayed you, or you played poorly, or it's a combination of both -- but it's not because the killer is overpowered and needs changes (she arguably does, but they are NOT nerfs). Complain about Pig, and you probably should just ask for killer bots with the AI capabilities of Nemesis' zombies to go against for your experience to be one you're happy with. I've NEVER gone against a Pig in two years plus -- including since her RNG trap change -- that I thought "Man, this killer is too strong to beat", where as I CAN say that's happened against certain Nurses, Blights, Spirits, and Huntresses (though again, even with THOSE killers, that feeling was as much as to how good the player behind them was as much as it was their strength as a killer).

And while I didn't see all of the matches Otz played with Pig that he talked about in his video, the one he DID showcase featured an AFK player to start the game, and it's not like that sample game ended with the survivors dying at 5 gens -- they still got him down to the final gen. And this is against Otz, who can play killers with meme builds and perkless and everything else under the sun and still win or 4K because he's that damn good at the game -- which is NOT going to be the norm, but the exception, for people playing the game in general. Otz going on a win streak playing Pig doesn't mean she's all of a sudden too powerful, it just means he's better at the game than anyone posting in this thread is, and almost any player playing Pig in general.

I saw their vids' suggestion all the time, but I didnt follow or like to save the play.

All of their vids are about Nurse using Haunted Ground + Retribution for 1min 4 down.

Like finishing a gen with an active trap on. I've seen it on a few occasion where a survivor does not prioritizes the boxes (largely before the update to normalize the rng). All I'm saying is if there is a combination that leads to survivor on a consistent basis to not have enough time with a pig interrupting them on boxes or the survivor themselves not giving themselves enough time, then it should be looked at and nerfed. Before the 5 box update midwich + timer + longer searches could lead to situations where a survivor who had to misfortune to not find their key in the first 3 searches did not have enough time to search the 4th box with no fault of their own and the pig not interrupting them.

You are just being intentionally obtuse at this point. Pig can interrupt survivors searching boxes. If the pig does not interrupt survivors on boxes then she should not be getting consistent head pops with her power. If there is a combination of addons and/or map that creates a situation where a pig does not need to interrupt survivors on boxes and get kills then it should be looked at.

I'm not done doing this back and forth with you since I'm not going to deal with someone intentional misreading what I'm saying.

Not saying yes or no with regards to whether this will be problematic down the line, but with all due respect, this was a very unconvincing video. This guy got three Traps on by the time the first gen popped (technically two, but the third was put on very shortly after the first gen went) on THE GAME. With one person getting a free hit from being AFK and then going down while wasting a pallet in the process. One person tried to hide despite having a blood trail leading right to them. Good Survivors these were not.

You cant nerf these curves

It is important to remember that killers usually get nerfed because of how they make low/middle tier players feel oppressed. Things like AFK pig were very oppressive to the low/middle tier crowd. Wraith had the same problem when he got his rework and that's why he got nerfed.

The sad part is the devs completely ignore any attempts to balance high tier play. I understand why as it's very clear when you watch them play their own game.

You realize my comment was a joke right?