This D-Ranking needs to be Addressed.

fcc2014 said:

Since rank doesn't matter or offer any reward, matchmaking should be based around hours played to keep new players from getting trolled or smashed. The ques could be easy to sort 0 to 200 hours, 201 to 500 hours 500+ all together. SWF ques would take the person with the most hours of the group and place them with a matching killer.

@JanTheMan said:

Or player level

I think we are thinking the same way. Explain player level.

@JanTheMan said:

That think that gives you shards and resets at 100

devotion level could be good. Separate casual from hardcore players. We need some type of fix even if, bhvr tries something and it doesn't work. The current system is a joke. In another post about SWF with a 4th perk the op is a prestige 3 Michael at rank 15 complaining about swf. Does that make any sense?

@ColonGlock said:

I will never understand a player who disconnects when losing. I would never give up 1 bp I earned in battle even if it is a "loss".

Still it happens even during this grindy event. 3 generators done someone is tunneled and quits. you got 12 points why leave? Same thing during double bloodpoints.

@Rebel_Raven said:
Don't survivors get an automatic 5k when a killer disconnects, plus the points they accumulated up to that point, though?

I don't ever DC by my own hand, mind you. Any depipping I do is rank reset.

Yes, its the killer that is screwed by ragequitting survivors.
Survivors keep their items aswell

@Autoliny said:

@CookieDog said:
People in the general Dead by Daylight community know of this issue and it needs to be addressed. I know the Dead by Daylight team is hard at work on this game and they're! doing a fantastic job. However this Constant Disconnects and people just trying to D-rank so they can verse new players. They want to feel powerful they can make a video how they juke killers or pallet slam and being in general toxic. These actions can and will cause new players who are actually coming into the game to shun away from this. It's disgusting.

Listen nobody wants to play with the scummy Red Ranks, you want to solve the D-ranking issue then you solve the pathetic players that hold Red Rank, they seem to think they're the best that the game has to offer, using exhaustion add-ons, Ruin, Sloppy, Instadown, camping, tunnelling, slugging.
I've been trying to do a daily for dwight, who I have almost all ######### perks, what I've faced at rank 2

Clown- Camped, Tunnelled, Slugged, Ruin,NOED, Sloppy | Pinky finger, addition bottles
Doc- Tunnelled, Ruin, Distressing, Unnerving | Iri King | 3 gen strat
Legion- Tunnelled, Ruin, Thanata, Sloppy | Dirty knife, Franks mix tape
Nurse- Tunnelled, slugged, Ruin, NOED, Sloppy | 5blink
Nurse- Ruin, MYC, Sloppy | 5blink | Ebony
Legion- Pretty much the same as above
Pig- Tunnelled (even though trapped) Ruin, Sloppy | I never checked the add-ons

Why do people D-rank, the issue is all of these pathetic noobs would be rank 15 before all the nerfs happened to survivor, alot I agreed with, like the exhaustion nerf, some pallet changes were needed, I feel the Devs went way overboard on it though for some maps. The healing nerf ######### Really?? Sloppy was buffed yet nobody used it, even though survivors would take 15 secs to heal, now that it would take 20 secs to heal 70% of red rank killers need it, along with their RUIN and NOED, but they're clearly skilled.

Don't gimme any excuses about it's needed or anything like that, I play Bubba in Red Ranks, using BBQ, Whisp, End and Fury, I don't camp, I will only down someone off a hook if close to me and almost never re-hook them unless I need pressure or BBQ vision, I rarely slug either again, unless I see someone else, they got farmed off a hook or I need to get some pressure.

The state of this game is holding the hands of killers to much, it's a bunch of rank 15's thinking they're awesome running those awesome crutch perks, Games go to fast (ok well lets remove every incentive for survivors to do totems, chests, sabo){wow did survivor focus more on gens} healing is to strong (nerfed healing now){wow survivors are not healing and rushing gens for the adrenaline}
Killers need to stop bitching about stupid ######### and focus on getting better, stop blaming everything else but your damn lack of skill, bunch of damn snowflakes.

Simply put, 90% of Red Rank killers are sweaty tryhard noobs relying on crutches,camping,tunnelling OP add-ons and slugging. only around 50% of purple rank killers do this and about 20% of green rank killers, where would you prefer to play as survivor?

Why do killers tunnel? Because thats what you have to do if you wanna keep up with genrush

@Autoliny said:

@Master said:

@Autoliny said:

@CookieDog said:
People in the general Dead by Daylight community know of this issue and it needs to be addressed. I know the Dead by Daylight team is hard at work on this game and they're! doing a fantastic job. However this Constant Disconnects and people just trying to D-rank so they can verse new players. They want to feel powerful they can make a video how they juke killers or pallet slam and being in general toxic. These actions can and will cause new players who are actually coming into the game to shun away from this. It's disgusting.

Listen nobody wants to play with the scummy Red Ranks, you want to solve the D-ranking issue then you solve the pathetic players that hold Red Rank, they seem to think they're the best that the game has to offer, using exhaustion add-ons, Ruin, Sloppy, Instadown, camping, tunnelling, slugging.
I've been trying to do a daily for dwight, who I have almost all ######### perks, what I've faced at rank 2

Clown- Camped, Tunnelled, Slugged, Ruin,NOED, Sloppy | Pinky finger, addition bottles
Doc- Tunnelled, Ruin, Distressing, Unnerving | Iri King | 3 gen strat
Legion- Tunnelled, Ruin, Thanata, Sloppy | Dirty knife, Franks mix tape
Nurse- Tunnelled, slugged, Ruin, NOED, Sloppy | 5blink
Nurse- Ruin, MYC, Sloppy | 5blink | Ebony
Legion- Pretty much the same as above
Pig- Tunnelled (even though trapped) Ruin, Sloppy | I never checked the add-ons

Why do people D-rank, the issue is all of these pathetic noobs would be rank 15 before all the nerfs happened to survivor, alot I agreed with, like the exhaustion nerf, some pallet changes were needed, I feel the Devs went way overboard on it though for some maps. The healing nerf ######### Really?? Sloppy was buffed yet nobody used it, even though survivors would take 15 secs to heal, now that it would take 20 secs to heal 70% of red rank killers need it, along with their RUIN and NOED, but they're clearly skilled.

Don't gimme any excuses about it's needed or anything like that, I play Bubba in Red Ranks, using BBQ, Whisp, End and Fury, I don't camp, I will only down someone off a hook if close to me and almost never re-hook them unless I need pressure or BBQ vision, I rarely slug either again, unless I see someone else, they got farmed off a hook or I need to get some pressure.

The state of this game is holding the hands of killers to much, it's a bunch of rank 15's thinking they're awesome running those awesome crutch perks, Games go to fast (ok well lets remove every incentive for survivors to do totems, chests, sabo){wow did survivor focus more on gens} healing is to strong (nerfed healing now){wow survivors are not healing and rushing gens for the adrenaline}
Killers need to stop bitching about stupid ######### and focus on getting better, stop blaming everything else but your damn lack of skill, bunch of damn snowflakes.

Simply put, 90% of Red Rank killers are sweaty tryhard noobs relying on crutches,camping,tunnelling OP add-ons and slugging. only around 50% of purple rank killers do this and about 20% of green rank killers, where would you prefer to play as survivor?

Why do killers tunnel? Because thats what you have to do if you wanna keep up with genrush

Maybe stop camping the hook and apply pressure to gens??? just a thought, if I can manage it on a Bubba then I'm sure Spirit, Nurse, Billy, Legion can all manage to do it also, considering that's the most types of killers I see in red

Well most of the survivors rush the hook, so why should I go away and give a free unhook?
Blame the invention of all the free unhook tools like BT, unhook invulnerability, new unhook animation etc for that. Survivors feel so safe, they have nothing to worry when they rush the damn hook

Oh and the BBQ nerf didnt help either

@Master said:
Well most of the survivors rush the hook, so why should I go away and give a free unhook?

Because if they save right away then they lose time on the hook and are closer to death. Sitting there waiting for the guy to die on a hook is very inefficient.

@TrAiNwReCk said:
Doubtful they have any stats on games played without a DC vs games played with a DC. I would imagine that % being fairly high, much higher than the developer might think. This is a touchy subject for sure and how to handle it . . it's an imperfect system. Might take an imperfect change creating player backlash, but once implemented hopefully it'll be the change we need.

Still if someone DC's more than 2 times within . . 30 minutes (less or more) they should receive an accumulative ban 1-2-4-8 + hours for each occurrence. Maybe that's a bad idea, but there are many others out there.

Too add. What's the problem with disconnecting? It's losing blood points, pips and event points. Maybe instead of harsh punishment they should give all event points possible to the player(s) and a portion of potentially lost blood points by the DC.

@fcc2014 said:
Since rank doesn't matter or offer any reward, matchmaking should be based around hours played to keep new players from getting trolled or smashed. The ques could be easy to sort 0 to 200 hours, 201 to 500 hours 500+ all together. SWF ques would take the person with the most hours of the group and place them with a matching killer.

this would be nice but you'd still get lip from those streamers saying "Red ranks dont have V-A-R-I-E-T-Y!..."

@thesuicidefox said:

@Master said:
Well most of the survivors rush the hook, so why should I go away and give a free unhook?

Because if they save right away then they lose time on the hook and are closer to death. Sitting there waiting for the guy to die on a hook is very inefficient.

Sitting there waiting for the survivors to rush a hook is very efficient

@fcc2014 said:

@ItsYourBoyGuzma said:

@fcc2014 said:
Since rank doesn't matter or offer any reward, matchmaking should be based around hours played to keep new players from getting trolled or smashed. The ques could be easy to sort 0 to 200 hours, 201 to 500 hours 500+ all together. SWF ques would take the person with the most hours of the group and place them with a matching killer.

this would be nice but you'd still get lip from those streamers saying "Red ranks dont have V-A-R-I-E-T-Y!..."

You would still get issues from many people once they have to play people consistently at their own skill/knowledge level but it would be more fair than the current system.

I am a much worse survivor than a killer, but if I had to play against 4 survivors playing like me, then I would simply quit the game tbh. Theres no fun being genrushed

@fcc2014 said:

@Master said:

I am a much worse survivor than a killer, but if I had to play against 4 survivors playing like me, then I would simply quit the game tbh. Theres no fun being genrushed

If you see i also suggested your hours as survivor and killer would be separate for match making. You don't think you should play people with the same skill level as you? Everyone agrees rank doesn't matter. If we separate ques by hours invested you can determine changes that need to be made in the game.

if you breakdown matchmaking and see that higher skilled matches 3-4 players are escaping because of gen rushing you can balance around that because less experienced players would also need to adapt as they grow in skill as they play players at their same level. The game is balanced around insufficient and faulty information as long as players can derank and smash new players. It throws data collected off.

I used to agree with this logic that first the unbalance needs to show such that the devs realize and can react to that.

But then the depip experiment happened, the devs acknoledged the balance problems and were like "whats the point, we already knew". Still nothing has happened so far. You just have to face it, BHVR doesnt want to actually balance the game. Its probably not even realistic in an assymetrical game if you wanna keep population. Survivors gameplay is far too dull if you ask me

@friendlykillermain said:

in the end theres nothing that can be done every game is now a grey area no more black and white is always the same tryhard swfs and poor killers just there to be abused

That is the problem You have killers deranking to beat inexperienced and less skilled players and survivors or swf doing the same. Nobody has any real data to show what is actually happening in the game. If you had the ability to show survivors at a certain hours played skill level matches last less than 5 minutes you can use that to adjust game powers, perks, and time to complete objectives.

friendlykillermain said:

@Cymer said:
Rank is like life. The higher you go / older you get, at first it's fun, you get some progress in and have some fun, but the higher you get/older you become the more issues start rising.
In the end you are just old and weak, it sucks more than it is fun and you wish to go back...what wait, you are telling me I can go back? To a rank where it is fun to play for me? All I have to do is to play potato? Sign me up!

this the mindset that worrys me deeply

fcc2014 said:

@OrionsFury4789 forget rank for a minute and you having to derank to get lobbies. I understand the long wait times and it sucks. If we had a match making system that was based around hours played and that is what determined what pool of players you played against would that be better?

@OrionsFury4789 said:

I would totally love it if that were implemented we need something to keep it even , I just hope they address the dodging  with it because it's part of that issue as well

Hopefully if/when they implement the new match making everyone spawns in at the same time and we get less dodges but i doubt it. We could hope that they implement a timeout on the lobby closer.