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What killer do you think moved up a tier with this recent patch?
Title. Like I don’t think someone like trapper moved up from F tier to like c tier. But I think demogorgon moved from B to A tier with the recent buffs. What are your picks and why?
Demogorgon supremacy!
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All of them technically. Without dead hard I do feel like I am more threatening with Pig, or any other m1 killer. However they still do suck and still need full changes or reworks.
Pig's change/buff to her traps should not be seen as a rework, or massive buff. She still needs a rework to COMPLETELY remove RNG from her power. More consistent doesn't mean totally consistent, which is what every power should be like.
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All of them since the buffs were applied to all of them.
Plague and legion moved up 2 tiers tho.
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Legion and plague jumped up, for sure. Any stealther has dropped to F tier now that their stealth was removed from them when equipping a commonly used perk.
Just legion and plague alone may bring a thana nerf.
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I want to see Pinhead's win rate against four solos.
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Ok so where did you think pig was at before and where would you place her now?
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Every Killer moved up multiple Tiers.
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Gens being slower definitely made him go from B to A also in my opinion
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Baseline, I don't think anyone in particular, as everyone received the same basekit buffs, so their growth is the same across the board.
However, when taking Perk synergies into account, I do think Demogorgon slightly moved up the ladder due to its great synergy with Save The Best For Last and also Legion and Plague are slightly better now due to the Thanatophobia buff. MAYBE Nurse, because the number one counter Perk to her, Dead Hard, is now gone (then on the other hand, I don't think the other chase related buffs help her at all so that's a bit of tough one).
But outside of that I don't think any Killer in particular is in a better place than before (in terms of tier lists). But maybe I'm forgetting someone?
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Demogorgon already was A tier, but he was the worst A tier Killer. Now he's mid-A and that's perfect.
Demogorgon just needs a few Add-On reworks (and 1 base-kit buff, but that's a maybe at best) and he'll be the most perfect Killer in DbD
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Before she was D-tier. But honestly? Even with the buffs she got last time to her addons, I would place her in the lowest of C-tier. This is because her ambush ability does nothing against survivors who just hold W. Against better survivors you are essentially a slower m1 killer with slowdown. A lot of her addons still suck too. The stealth can sometimes help, but is also kinda weak.
The only thing that makes her strong is when running tampered timer and crate of gears. But again, she is an m1 killer. They might be stronger without dead hard, but they can still be dealt with very easily.
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The legion plague point Is very Intresting. You could have made it about basekit or with perks. I just wanted to see what other people would say and who they would pick
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I’m just happy that demogorgon who’s not even in the store no more still finds a way to be one of the better killers in this game
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All stealthers moved to f tier considering their stealth was removed from them for anyone running the new spinechill buff. Stealthers can no longer sneak up on anyone, and BHVR stared that Myers and Ghostface is expected to limit their stalking from 40 meters away, now.
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Yeah I hear you mate. Still her being better now than before is a step in the right I direction. Maybe they can make her m2 more lethal m?
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Legion definitely moved up
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I haven't done much killer testing on this patch so far but I will say dredge feels much better now. Despite the hype they were mid B tier but now they can delay and get even more nightfalls and chase is much less frustrating so they're probably A tier now almost certainly. I doubt I'll be able to do a lot of killer testing until BP incentives come back and bring queue times down though.
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I still sneak up on Spine Chill survivors. Just because they know you’re in the area doesn’t mean they know what direction it is or if you’re even coming their way. You just have to remember you’re not invisible so you need to use line of sight blockers on the approach.
Don’t get me wrong, Spine Chill is a solid perk, it’s still basically as good as it was before. It’s not invincible though.
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Personally I think the biggest boost is actually the killers who were particularly weak to having special abilities dodged by Dead Hard, such as Twins, Deathslinger, Demogorgorn and Trapper. Trapper in particular no longer has to worry about people hopping over his traps which is a nice plus, and Deathslinger’s spear works through the new version of Dead Hard.
A lot of people are saying Legion and Plague got boosted but honestly the gen slowdown combos with Thana already were pretty solid on them, the buff to it is nice but doesn’t make them move up a tier rank I don’t think.
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My wife
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Its generally easy to know which direction the killer is coming from unless you're at a center gen. Most gens only have a couple of ways to be approached from. Survivors just have to run away, and considering they have a 36 meter head start they are getting away (unless they stay in place...then thats on them - but that's just them ignoring the per).
In my experience so far, the moment I'm within 36 meters, they all take off for the hills and find another gen. You can actively avoid the killer at all times running that perk. Been running it on my survivor every match. So far, I've been last to get hooked. Just makes evading killers super easy.
As for stealthers, you can't get sneak attacks on anyone. They know you're in the area, so they aren't going to stick around and wait for you to attack. It's essentially giving them their own custom terror radius - defeats the whole point of having stealth, so yeah, at that point stealthers are just m1 killers without their main power.
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I think in particular. Clown got a lot out of the update. Faster cd from M1 hits with his slow bottles with faster pallet breaking means that survivors really aren't getting away from Clown.
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My hitting people the last couple of days who have Spine Chill says otherwise. They know you’re around but even if they run, where do they run? If they can’t see you directly and they run then they’re not on a gen, which is good for me, and I still might even get the drop on them if I come from behind obstacles.
Mind you, I’m not talking about getting actual grabs, but getting closer than average is entirely possible.
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Nurse and Blight. Good to see the weakest killers getting some help from the devs...
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Freddy reached D-Tier now. All he had left with Gen-Defense and Teleport is gone now. DMS is the only thing left.
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Whats up with teleport?
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every killer moved up a tier this isn't even a competition.
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If they made her ambush good, then I think it would be right to either take away the stealth. I feel like a killer with good slowdown, a strong chasing power, AND stealth would be a bit busted.
I think her new ambush should still be a dash, but actually applicable in a chase.
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Clown for sure. Pallet breaking speeds is great for him and so are weapon recovery speeds and less speedboost when hit for survivors.
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Iron will nerf did help a lot
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That’s a good point! Stbfl is also good on him
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Pretty much every killer got stronger, but not because of a buffs.
It's because most of survivors can't loop or mindgame without DH. Chases are fast now.
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Trapper. Hands down. I play using Overcharge, Thana, Agitation and Iron Grasp. Having fun with this build, atm. Especially with iri add-ons. Great against bullysquads.
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Clown. I've been running Brutal Strength/Bamboozle/STBFL/Call of Brine with Flask of Bleach and Ether 15%. There are no chases, only downs.
Brutal Strength is actually a useful perk now, since running it is like having old Brutal Strength with a couple of Fire Up stacks, except you don't actually need to run Fire Up, and you get it at the beginning of the game. (Fire Up in place of Call of Brine is also highly effective in this build, but Clown needs some information and potential for slowdown, and Call of Brine synergizes with Brutal Strength and provides both.)
Legion went down a tier, in my experience. Thana buff is extremely overrated. On the other hand, Ruin/Undying/Thana/Pentimento isn't an effective combo anymore. Legion was A-tier with 200% autoregression and/or 30-50% gen slowdown the entire game.
The Overcharge buff brings a lot to the Impossible Skill Check Doctor build. Easy 4K if you have the right map addons.
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Oh yes clown definitely improved with this update
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