Tunnel on 5/4 gens every game? why?

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Wedeguy
Wedeguy Member Posts: 278

Why 4 straight games I face legion/nurse/nemesis with the new slowdown meta build who tunnels on 5 gens? is it because they know ds is such a joke so they don't care?

Thank you devs, I'm done with survivor, 4 straight games of instant replay, either me or other team member just getting tunneled off hook with thana and euruption and all that stuff. im out, maybe ill come to play killer from time to time but I ain't gonna play this tragedy called "Solo queue"/

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  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
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    Shrug.

    I saw tunnelers and campers before the patch.

    I'm seeing less campers, but about the same number of tunnelers.

    OTR sort of stops it dead, so run that if you find yourself getting focused out constantly.

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    Okay, but then I need to trust my solo queue team mates to bring it too, which they don't. I'm really done it's not fun, I was optimistic after the third straight tunnel game vs nurse, but then the fourth game against nemesis really made me get irritated. I'm done until this new thana + insta tunnel meta gets a bit more chilled.

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,988
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    If you are going to tunnel, it needs to be at 5 gens, otherwise it is too late (against good survivors). The real issue is there is no way of telling if survivors are good before damage is done. If they tunnel someone out, and keep tunneling after the first one was removed from the game and there are still 4 or 5 gens... They are a bit rude, not going to lie. But the real issue is that matchmaking is wack.


    I personally ease up if I notice the lobby was not a gen rushing Navy Seal squad. However, I could also see if the killer just wants to go next a$ap.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
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    Things will settle down. Honestly, unless it's a Legion, Thana is still meh (I predict the meta settling around PR, DMS and FOR).

    You are playing solo queue, so you'll get people who aren't very good sometimes (as well as people who will carry you hard). The baseline BT means that a savvy survivor can actually do quite a lot to stop themselves from being tunneled, and OTR makes it easy.

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    Yeah it needs to be on 5 gens if u play competitive dbd. guess what, I wanna chill after work not see my solo queue team giving up cause another 5 gen tunneler with thana and deadlock is getting adrenaline rush by the free down. I thought i can use fun perks after this patch but if i'm forced to run OTR and DS I'd rather just play killer or not play at all, it's my bad that I was optimistic after the third game vs nurse, should've known.

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    If I'm forced to run OTR I rather not play survivor, and even if i'll run it, I play solo queue, I was tunneled once and my teammates the other 3 times, they didn't bring OTR so it wouldn't change the outcome.

  • HugTheHag
    HugTheHag Member Posts: 3,140
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    Also, OTR is a DLC perk, which means most casual players don't have it, and understandably don't want to pay 6$ and grind god knows how many hours just to get that one perk on their builds.

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    It's such a boring perk too, just "tank a hit" perk, but all the killer mains here want me to use it cause they know ds is bs now.

  • YOURFRIEND
    YOURFRIEND Member Posts: 3,389
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    Every game? Come on. You either have a very loose interpretation of "tunnelling" or you're being hysterical and hyperbolic over something that happened only a couple of times.

  • alunsa
    alunsa Member Posts: 61
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    I'd take a break for the game if its not fun for you. I had this exact experience after patch just released n it was miserable. Games have been getting better these last few days though. Like first few days after patch it was hard tunneling through otr and bt, then a face camp. Now, its leveled out into some more chill killers. Honestly think my MMR was inflated pre-patch and I hada get put back to where I belong by just playing the games through.

    Best of luck on your next games o7

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
    edited July 2022
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    Yeah, come and teach me you god player who knows more than me what tunneling is. so let me explain you master of dbd, the killer gets a hook, someone gets the unhook, the killer waits a few seconds and downs the survivor then repeats it again, 4 straight games against 3 different killers, literally ignoring the unhooker who tries to take a hit.

    But hey, I only have 3700 hours on this weird game, I bet you know better than me what 5 gen tunneling is.

  • M4dBoOmr
    M4dBoOmr Member Posts: 598
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    may I ask what game are you playing? you seem to play a different game than me

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    Thanks but I'll just wait for my swf buddies to call me if I'd like to play survivor, I won't play this garbage called solo queue, there are more games to play in this world that can help me chill after work.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
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    Shrug. You and other people have the tools to counter this strategy, but it'll cost you a perk slot. Much as killers need to dedicate a perk slot to countering boons.

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    Sure, so lemme just start every solo queue lobby by telling the randoms to equip OTR since we can't know which one of us will get tunneled first. It's better me to skip this game for good unless I wanna play killer or with my friends, I just came here to rant since 4 games of seeing the same thing over and over was enough for me to get actually irritated.

  • FriendlyKiller
    FriendlyKiller Member Posts: 337
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    Because lots of survivor mains addicted to toxicity are now playing killer. Bullies gotta bully

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077
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    Shrug. This is a team game on the survivor end (hence APvP).

    If you play random, you are going to get random. If you want to coordinate your perks, the DbD Discord makes it ridiculously easy to find a SWF; the only proviso is usually 'be good'.

    Plus, apply this logic to killers. You need to dedicate a spot to a specific perk in case someone brings boons, and are discouraged from running Penti for much the same reason. This game is, was and will always be something of a blind-counter game.

  • realflashboss
    realflashboss Member Posts: 328
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    Honestly SWF isnt any more fun. Play customs only if you want to actuskly have fun with friends.

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167
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    Why not? Its still a very strong tactic and one of the easiest to do.

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    okay, then enjoy more survivors leaving and have fun waiting 10 minutes for a game

  • Yippiekiyah
    Yippiekiyah Member Posts: 452
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    Survivors need some kind of anti tunnel mechanic as basekit.

  • Phantom_
    Phantom_ Member Posts: 1,197
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    I see the same trend. You'd think playing killer being so easy a 12yo could do it and get a 4k would make this less of an issue. But it has only made it worse. It's as if killers were the side that got a major nerf and had their perks turned into useless ones 😂

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    they no that ds is trash now thus:

    1. less people would run it, much less chances to eat it.
    2. even if they'll eat it, it's a 3 second stun, lucky if the survivor can do something good with it
    3. gens are so slow now with their stacked slowdown build that tunneling is ensuring a win.
  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167
    edited July 2022
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    You can check my post history and you will notice Im very against most of the changes on this patch because they essentially killed Solo which in turn killed Killer queues by doubling or tripling them (what a surprise...).

    I was just answering your question, why would a bad player who relied on camping and tunneling to get kills stop doing it now when its even stronger? people are not going to self-police themselves, theyll always go for the easiest, less skill intensive option given the choice.

  • Wedeguy
    Wedeguy Member Posts: 278
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    In that case you went for logic, yeah I know the logic, but they don't play for money here and they bring slowdown perks as well, why doing that? where's the fun in that?

  • AlwaysSalty
    AlwaysSalty Member Posts: 18
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    I had one (legion) last night with all the disgusting perks and man it was rough. It was only me and one person left by the end and we got the last gen done, but both died at the gate lol. That game was soooo long that we just both just wanted out.

    I don't think I have gotten out once against a legion.... that was the closest and the group was decent overall on performance. Got gens done, and looped the killer and rotated/took hits but still we all died in the end. Man.. idk what else we could have done.

  • HectorBrando
    HectorBrando Member Posts: 3,167
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    I posted this on another thread, the guys at Magic the Gathering (the card game) noticed there were 3 main personalities among their players, one of those 3 was called "Spike", Spike is a kind of player who only cares about winning, its the only thing that brings them fun and they dont care in the slightest how to achieve said win, they are the kind of players who will play the strongests characters, easiest most effective strategies, the easiest most effective combos, the best weapons, anything that gives them an edge to win even if its not very engaging, they just want to win no matter what.

    One oddity Spike has the other 2 lack (Timmy and Johnny) is they can win 9 games in a row and then lose 1, that lose will ruin their day and make them miserable, doesnt matter if they had a 9 out of 10 streak (which is a very damn good streak imo) the burnt of that lost makes them very unhappy about the game session.

    The other 2 dont care as much about winning but about the way they win so they dont mind losing some games if they get to have some wins the way they like, these players are usually way WAY more content about their playing experiences.

    So, Spikes in this game will go for the easiest and strongests strats in order to secure the 4K, camping is one of those and even if its a boring gameplay choice for almost everyone involved they dont care, because the 4K will be enough for them.


    You can read a bit about the whole Timmy/Johnny/Spike archetypes if you search in google, is super interesting and really explains a lot about the way some people approach competition.

  • brewingtea
    brewingtea Member Posts: 208
    edited July 2022
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    > Much as killers need to dedicate a perk slot to countering boons.

    Yeah, boons is the new meta. I'm def wasting a perk slot to counter boons right now

    > being hysterical and hyperbolic over something that happened only a couple of times.

    Wait, are we talking about tunneling or teabagging?

  • Raptorrotas
    Raptorrotas Member Posts: 3,220
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    Earnest question.

    At how many % of your objectives done is killer allowed to start working towards theirs?

    You're actually complainging about killers doing their objective before you finished 2 gens, thats 33%.