The new patch is not a fun experience.

So far I think my biggest issue playing survivor is just the skill of the teammates im matched with *on top* of the new changes. 10 seconds longer to do gens isnt really that terrible, until you get baby teammates against Ruin, Overcharge, etc. It feels like the moment the update came out, a bunch of people stopped playing survivor, and the number is only slowly decreasing. To bat, we don't even have the matchmaking incentives working properly, so there's a lack of compensation for playing what is now widely considered the undesirable role in the game.

Otherwise, as far as tunneling and camping, the experience is just as nauseatingly boring as it was before. I really do feel like the ideas people have come up with to give solo queue survivors would be great additions to the game, allowing them some level of communication to the solo survivor role within the game.

For me as long as at least one member of my survivor team actually tries to save me from the hook weather they can or can't. I will stay in the game but if noone is bothering to save me on hook unless I force my hook count to 2 than they are giving me reason to suicide on hook.

I don't know about other people who off themselves on the hook early in the match but I do it to leave the match if none of my team is willing to even attempt to help me off hook. Literally I am wasting my time in a match if noone is helping me off the hook cause I'm not gonna wait to die while my teammates do other stuff in the match and instead would rather just end it and go to another match were hopefully my team will actually help me.

So honestly before killers blame the people commiting suicide on hook for not being a team player and screwing over their team. U might want to think twice about it. If my team helps me off the hook or at least attempts to than I have no problem staying for the rest of the match. But if I do suicide on hook, u can be sure it's my team's fault for not helping me off hook and not mine. Nothing I can do if my team of survivors refuses to be team players.

No wonder you're caged. That attitude is what makes this community a pos sometimes.

Do you believe the game was balanced before the patch?

I get lot of those top10% survivors so I can say killer buffs were not enough you can get 2K agains't them but that's it unless they fail. They always get map which favours them too I've been playing in the game map agains't them. Average and new survivors will get destroyed ofcourse when there is 5-3 gens left but they just have to improve now and actually do the gens. Killers had to try hard before to get kills so it's fine survivors have to try hard to get escapes. Now killers can have relaxing matches agains't casual survivors but have to still try hard agains't swf:s who know what they're doing.

That bad state of the game is gonna change a 100%, and soon.

STBFL obviously needs a rework, Thana needs its numbers toned down because on certain killers is actually stupidly strong and no gens getting done. Jolt idk why it doesn't have some short of cooldown. Killers stacking whatever slowdowns they want without downside.

DS needs the time back to 5 secs and not to deactivate at the end game. No one complaint about the pre nerf DS but they totally murdered the perk anyways.

The 5 sec built in BT didn't solved anything and made the things a lot worse. Camping and tunneling increased because killers know that the game doesn't have anti tunneling protection. My idea about the built in BT is to make it terror radious based. If the killer is facecamping give it more seconds, if they're outside, less. And the list goes on.

DH apparently the 1 sec window was "too strong". The current 0,5 is a joke, so give it a buff to 0,75. The perk is trash anyways.

There always was a fundamental difference between both sides and you can't really compare them and say "you have to sweat the same as us!". One role is for one player and the other is for 4 players who have to work in a team.

Killer has always been harder and that's fine and fair. It's a different role, it's not like you're playing Street Fighter or FIFA were both sides basically do the same in a match. Killer is for 20% of the playerbase and therefore it's fine if it's not for everyone. I liked it being sweaty, my winrate was fairly high besides that and if people didn't like the way killer was they should just quit and play survivor instead or something else, that's my opinion.

Now that killer is a walk in the park to 4k the queue times have skyrocketed while solo survivor has become basically unwinnable because teammates are throwing left and right and killers still sweat and abuse every weakness they see. If some people really thought killers will play nice just because they could now, they were really naive...

I don't know about other killers but I DO play nicer if I realize I win easy. Pre patch I always tried my very best, now I give hatch, ######### around, accept defeat if it was not played out toxic etc. I like this kind of interaction where you kill the tryhars survivors with their clickediclick and let the terrified noobs escape. Much more fun

The way I see it, Dead by Daylight is currently a competitive game, similar to fighting games. Sure, you can play the game at a casual level and still potentially have fun, but much of the satisfaction comes from learning how to get better and better. If some changes were made to solo q, tunneling, and camping to make this goal obtainable, I think it would be okay for this game to remain competitive for both sides. Otherwise, I don't see how it would be fair for killers to have to play hard in order to win without expecting the same from survivors. I understand that you have less control over your individual success as a survivor, but that's the nature of the game being asymmetrical.

One bad game for me makes me want to absolutely demolish the next group (if possible) . Which results in them getting tunnelled, and most likely slugged. The only time I don't now is if I have already killed 3 , they didn't play like an ass, and they're at the gate about to open it I just nod and let them go . With how much good groups are slamming gens and putting boons up in the back corners of the biggest maps it forces killers to be sweaty

Bro after reading your thread of comments you are taking out your frustrations on the other guy with no logical backing. All he is doing is stating his opinion and experience. You are repeatedly making assumptions that you would have no idea about. Chill get off the forums.

Very well written. Well said. I agree.

I agree with you as well.

NGL Budhha, I thought you were going to post something pro killer. Glad to see you give a real take (not implying that you never have before).

This is the first time there are skins I like (AOT), but I didn’t buy. I’ve been saying for the longest I need to stop supporting this game financially because it’s getting less fun. This last patch really killed the fun factor for me, so I put my foot down and kept my money. I will however, purchase the RE Chapter because Resident Evil is my favorite videogame franchise of all time, but that’s going to be the last DLC I buy until the fun meter starts to go in the right direction again. I’m putting my money where my mouth is, and I’m going to let it do the talking for me.

DBD game design is OUTDATED. I know the devs said they are not going to make a sequel and many agree with that, but I personally think it’s a bad business model. Everyone would benefit from a new game that doesn’t put the power for you to have fun, ENTIRELY in the opposition’s side. A Killer shouldn’t have a miserable time because friends playing together trumps nearly everything he/she can do. To the point that only 2 out of how many killer(?) can only compete. That’s bad design. Then there is the flip side- a killer shouldn’t have the power to pick a random target and tunnel them out the game, literally making it so that player couldn’t do anything other than run away. It doesn’t matter if the killer threw the entire match just to kill that one survivor- the point is that player had 0 chance of having fun. BAD DESIGN.

wanna see things finally balanced for solo q survivors? relegate SWF to custom matches and then you can balance properly (or at least trying to balance since asymmetrical games are almost impossible to balance)