How do you feel since the update

I want them to appease survivors so queues go back to being instant and games stop being thrown. Whatever they want, give it to them. I do not even care what it is. Just do it.

This patch ruined the game for survivors, I'm leaving until they fix this. Brought a competent 4 man team that use to win all the time... to The Game with 3x Tool Boxes and Brand New Parts and still got steam rolled by a Spirit. The why...

1. Iron Will is effectively useless, any killer with a headset can trace sounds (footsteps, breathing, loud moaning now) EASILY, spirits just teleport and trace without a beat now.
2. The additional 10 seconds per gen, which effectively passively impacts variety of other perks to 13+ seconds due such as Thanatophobia
3. Jolt is absolutely crushing regression now ontop of it
4. No dead hard to make plays anymore

If you're argument is that there's a "passive 5 second BT", that barely offsets face camping or tunneling. Which happened before anyways, what is 5 seconds when you have another 1-2+ minutes of gen time to do.

Statistically, before the patch I was escaping with at least 1+ survivor at a pretty standard pace maybe out of 10 games, 5-5 escape to death ratio. Post patch, with a discord team, 3-14, and one of those wins was maybe a killer just messing around.

Not only that, the number of "mercy" escapes from killers I have seen skyrocketed post-patch - the fact that killers are "mercy escaping" survivors is a testament to the imbalance.

It's really simple to balance this game, take the data you have on number of survivor escapes and deaths per game and balance it so there's a 2-2 escape to death ratio. Take this data by killer and adjust perks accordingly to balance.

Also, I play as killer on the side, and I went 5-0 (Oni w/ AOT skin, Meyers, Trickster), 4 kill, 4 kill, 4 kill, 3 kill, 4 kill. It's a breeze in the park... especially as a PC gamer.

If you also noticed the queue time for killers have gone up, its also evidence that people don't want to play survivor... which speaks to the lack of balance and fun.

I'm retiring from DBD until they fix this.

It was positive at first, but it's gotten increasingly negative. Solo queue is in a truly miserable state and the perk changes, while they have shifted the exact perks comprising each meta, have completely failed to change the dominant strategies on either side. Survivors are still married to second chance perks and killers are still forced to stack slowdowns against good squads (which in turn ends up being complete overkill versus solos.) Survivors that want to live are hammering generators/holding W and predropping, and killers are still tunneling the first person they see, and I'm feeling like at this point we need some actual mechanical incentives to spread hooks, and to get out and hunt survivors instead of hovering at the hook so you can down the rescuer and then the rescuee again. Tunneling should not be the most efficient strategy, and yet it is; whether that's giving the last unhooked player persistent buffs in chase or altering survivor repair speeds based on hook allocations, I don't know, but we're never going to wean off the sheer baked-in need for anti-tunneling perks with bloodpoint incentives or asking nicely.

We also need a cap on action speed slowdowns, because Jesus Christ, I'm not sure you can find a more universal definition of an unfun game than a Legion or Plague running Thana/DL/Plaything/Penti.

It's sad, because I really like the killer changes and feel they were necessary, and I'm still glad as hell that DH has been dethroned. Survivors just didn't get adequate protections in return and killers are not, despite innumerable statements otherwise, using their newfound slack to play any less hardball. Killers are better equipped to deal with SWF, but solos are in turn much less able to keep up. Those floated solo queue buffs cannot come out soon enough.

As a glutton for punishment solo survivor I now run MoM, Sole Survivor, Wake Up, and Dead Hard.

In the beginning I work on protecting survivors that suck at chase while getting MoM stacks using DH. After that I reserve the 3rd protection hit for whenever I need MoM activated.

If I’m the last survivor I’ll open the exit gates incredibly fast after the killer finds hatch. If MoM is active I’ll open it in a killer’s face as they walk up. I’ll endure all the hits until I’m out.

This build falls flat when SWFs sandbag you. It’s so annoying that their dead buddies can spy on you, and tell their remaining party what your intentions are based on what you’re using. They’ll make it so no one escapes even if they’re bad. Hoping the killer spares them, which they almost never do. That’s why I grew to hate dbd. SWF intel is simply game breaking for non-SWF period.

A bit frustrated tbh. I think the changes are mostly good, but a lot of survivors are acting like it's the end of the world, and on the flip side some killers are camping as some sort of protest? I don't really understand either of those, and honestly it just seems a bit petty to me. When both teams play normally the game seems a lot healthier to me tbh, and honestly I'm happy not to have to be carrying BT around all the time.

Some few things are weird, like Iron Will having an exhaustion condition to it - I mean, I feel like it's most useful after an exhaustion perk has been used. And I'm not sure about DS being 3s instead of 5? 5s is a looong time for a killer but 3 isn't always enough to get away, I think?

But you know, when you compare perks to autodidact you have to think...well it's not that bad, is it? :P

Poorly. Almost every game my friends and I have played survivor wise has been a tunnel/camp fest. There are a few here and there where the killer has been merciful but it has been a miserable experience. Thus far anyway.

Don't really like it anymore, primarily a survivor player but I play both frequently enough. The "good games" are pretty boring with no room left for fun plays or risk, and the bad games are god awful. (And before The Usuals get up in arms, the only nerfed perk I ever used before was Spine Chill, so I'm not missing my crutch or whatever.) Even Killer is pretty boring for me now, too. I already would get 3-4ks most of the time on Legion, even before the rework, and now it just feels like there's no thrill or challenge or anything. Just like yeah. The survivor died. They do that a lot now. Friend of mine's been doing a meme of playing all the killers with only clown's perks and no power usage while he's been disabled and has 4k'd every time. The game just feels too much like a foregone conclusion at this point to be fun on either side.

For me it's mostly good but there is a 2 big issues.

Killer is fine for the most part, still feels kinda weak at times but I think that's maps being badly designed. 1 of the big issues is tunneling. Tunneling seems even more appealing as opposed to not which isn't good. Gens are can be pretty fast still but it's not stupid anymore. I think they should do something about tunneling but I think they need to do something for the 4v1 aspect cause if tunneling is basically removed, it becomes almost impossible for most killers to get a 2k. Maybe add a built in earlygame mechanic or make endgame more threatening for survivors and stronger for killers.

Survivor is pretty alright, there is a huge difference in how good survivors are in chase (I wonder why) but I'm sure there gonna adapt and get better. The other huge issue though is solo q. I don't know how but there are so many people in solo q who are really bad or are literally doing nothing. I actually can't tell if they're throwing on purpose or not sometimes. Swf's are still fine though.

Overall I think the update is good but solo q and tunneling needs to be fixed as well adding a better way of getting/killing survivors.

Side note: I thought a meta change was supposed to change the meta for both sides not one side.

Expect a lot of confirmation bias, then. People don't generally sign up for the forums to declare how much fun they're having, they sign up to complain. The people who are enjoying this patch or don't notice a significant difference don't feel driven to go tell people, so... yes, of all of the people on the forums complaining about the patch, the majority are complaining about the patch.